Should I get a Radeon build by ATI or Sappire? Or does it matter since I hear that Sapphire builds ATI's cards anyway?

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ATI's cards are usually more expensive, and Sapphire makes pretty good cards. They'll usually throw some more unique cooling on there as well.

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Here's a Radeon 9800 pro retail built by ATI for $275 with free shipping:

Edit: $275, not $175

http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCODE=VB_ATI_ATI_9800P_128TD&REFID= PW

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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited December 17, 2003).]

Not a bad deal, but look at the All in Wonder models for the best of the Radeon cards. More expensive, but the best out there

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I want a Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder XT Pro FX Ultra...

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The all-in-wonder is about $60 more... I just got the normal one. Can't wait till it gets here!

Here are my specs:
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• Thermaltake Xaser III Chasi with 400W power supply
• Intel D875PBZ Motherboard
• Intel Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 800 MHz FSB
• Twin Sticks of Crucial 512mb PC-3200 DDR 400 memory
• ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb
• Creative Soundblaster Audigy MP3+
• Creative Inspire 5300 5.1 speakers
• 60gb Hard Disk
• DVD-ROM
• CD-RW

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/me runs off with Mystic's machine.



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I have a Sapphire. Big bubbles, no troubles.

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I've also got an Intel D875PBZ Motherboard, and I want to warn you that I have problems with the 10/1000 port on it... it intermittently decides that it doens't want to initialize, so I have no network/internet. To get it to come back, I have to restart, disable the onboard in the BIOS, and boot back up... then do the same thing again after XP has loaded, except enabling it again.

Besides that, any time after I try and mess around with the BIOS and enter Windows, I get strange black distortions and lines across my screen... I also have a Radeon 9800. The only way to fix it is to do a cold boot. On occasion, my LAN port again decides to shut down.

Good luck.

Sapphire is the same thing as a BBA card. It just has different cooling and is often bundled with different/more things. And an All In Wonder doesnt perform any better than a regular Pro card. it just has a TV Tuner built into it.

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Here's my cooling for my Sapphire card.



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The coolest cooling solution I've seen is on the Sapphire Ultimate cards, where there is no fan but instead a huge heatsink. As a result, there is practically no sound.

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It's sad when I know your **** better than you do. That case comes with a 420 Watt power supply, not a 400 Watt.

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Practically? There wouldn't be... Unless you could hear the electrons hitting against the silicon.

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[This message has been edited by Sol (edited December 18, 2003).]

I can. That's why I put that fan above it to drown out the noise of the coliding electrons. It was driving me nuts.

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Doh. Is that little bent thing holding the fans just the cover plate for un-used slots?

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[This message has been edited by Sol (edited December 18, 2003).]

Yep.

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Hah niffty.

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Take one step toward him, he takes two toward you;
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Oops, I was wrong... I don't have the Xaser III but instead the classic. But the power supply I got is 400w.

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