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Massive UFO sightings in Mexico..
2005-06-28, 9:35 PM #41
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Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01
Oh, Mexican news and people love to confuse people. I heard it was a meteor shower, that no on had seen. And it could have been ballons, heck there was this flying back a few days ago, and every one thought it was a UFO, but we got some binoculars and I proved, there is no spoon, I mean ufos... hehe


Don't meteors generally move in the showers?
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2005-06-28, 9:39 PM #42
I'm scared

:eek:
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
2005-06-28, 9:42 PM #43
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Originally posted by Ewoklover
I'm scared


so am i, especially since Zarquon will probably beat Yahweh :P
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2005-06-29, 7:43 AM #44
Meh. They're just here for the premier of "War of the Worlds."
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-06-29, 7:47 AM #45
why the hell would an advanced alien race spend craploads of money on a huge spacefaring project in order to come to our insignificant crappy planet in order to scare a few mexican farmers?
2005-06-29, 8:03 AM #46
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Originally posted by Mr. Stafford
why the hell would an advanced alien race spend craploads of money on a huge spacefaring project in order to come to our insignificant crappy planet in order to scare a few mexican farmers?


Because its fun?
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2005-06-29, 8:05 AM #47
Reminds me of the guy from H2G2 that, because he was bored, went to every person in the universe (in alphabetical order of course) to insult them.
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-06-29, 8:47 AM #48
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why the hell would an advanced alien race spend craploads of money on a huge spacefaring project in order to come to our insignificant crappy planet in order to scare a few mexican farmers?


Why would we on earth spend billions on small satellites and projects designed to aimlessly point into space inhopes of finding an extraterrestrial signal..Or why are we attempting interstellar travel for the same reasons? (although there are many more reasons, this remains oneof them)
2005-06-29, 10:54 AM #49
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Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast
Because its fun?


It IS fun. Like cow tipping. You guys oughta try it some time.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
2005-06-29, 10:57 AM #50
Just some vogon explorers pay it no mind.
2005-06-29, 10:59 AM #51
"beguinning. " Misspelling? Not a very siris report!
Badumb Ching!
2005-06-29, 12:27 PM #52
Ah, I see my fleets are beginning to arrive. In a few months, my plans for world domination will be made manifest.

[As soon I get some more Cheez-Its.]
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2005-06-29, 1:13 PM #53
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Stafford
why the hell would an advanced alien race spend craploads of money on a huge spacefaring project in order to come to our insignificant crappy planet in order to scare a few mexican farmers?



Why would they need money? Any advanced race would have gotten rid of the notion of money since it breeds conflict among people.
This is why the Federation of Planets doesn't use money.
2005-06-29, 2:31 PM #54
The world would be better if we used prostitutes as currency.


And sadly, it would be more sanitary.
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2005-06-29, 4:11 PM #55
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Originally posted by Thrawn42689
They're not "alleged" UFOs, they ARE UFOs. If they were identified as alien spaceships, they wouldn't be UFOs anymore.

Duhhhh. :p
Read my whole post. I already say that. DUHHHHH!
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2005-06-29, 4:28 PM #56
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Originally posted by Jepman
Jedi : They HAD to get close enough to the atmosphere for me to broadcast that it was only 2005, but that they were welcome to start bombarding key locations.

I wont state those for sake of neutrality within the massassi forums.

*walks away whistling innocently*


Bush won.


... get over it.
2005-06-29, 7:44 PM #57
..and look at all the wonderful things he is doing.
2005-06-29, 8:26 PM #58
I read Massassi UFO Sighting in mexico!!!
2005-06-29, 9:47 PM #59
I'll believe a UFO is an alien spaceship when I see pictures that are beyond simple white dots. Seriously, ever image of a UFO is just a white dot or something. So while they are Unidentified Flying Objects, what makes you think they are alien ships? Seems quiite illogical to me...
2005-06-29, 10:29 PM #60
If you look around on the web.. you can find some pretty damn good videos and pictures.
2005-06-29, 10:42 PM #61
I'd hate to burst your X-Files bubble, guys, but that video with the 20 or 30 white dots is definitely fake. The effect could easily have been done using a large clear material such as glass, and placing many small white things on it and then filming it skyward. The trick to make them seem moving is to shake the camera around, which is clearly done alot in that video. The real giveaway is that none of the white specs move any closer or farther in relation to each other.
The top ten times in history when using the "F" word
was appropriate.....
10) "What the *&%# was that?" -Mayor of Hiroshima - August 1945
9) "Where did all these *&%#ing Indians come from?" - Custer 1877
8) "Any *&%#ing idiot could understand that." - Einstein 1938
7) "It does SO *&%#ing look like her!" - Picasso 1926
6) "How the *&%# did you work that out?" - Pythagoras 126 BC
5) "You want WHAT on the *&%#ing ceiling?" - Michelangelo 1566
4) "I don't suppose it's gonna *&%#ing rain." - Joan of Arc 1434
3) "Scattered *&%#ing showers...my a$$!" - Noah 2114 BC
2) "I need this parade like I need a *&%#ing hole in my head!" -
JFK 1963
1) "Aw c'mon, who the *&%# is going to find out?" - Bill Clinton 1997
2005-06-29, 10:59 PM #62
..They could be stationary..
2005-06-29, 11:07 PM #63
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Originally posted by Temperamental
If you look around on the web.. you can find some pretty damn good videos and pictures.


Since you have aparently already done so why don't you provide some links?
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I told him he isn't missing anything.

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2005-06-29, 11:10 PM #64
I will do so in a day or so.. I dont really feel like looking it up for you when a simple google.com search for "UFO Pictures" will give you literally hundreds of millions of choices.
2005-06-29, 11:13 PM #65
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Originally posted by Agent-Smith
I'd hate to burst your X-Files bubble, guys, but that video with the 20 or 30 white dots is definitely fake. The effect could easily have been done using a large clear material such as glass, and placing many small white things on it and then filming it skyward. The trick to make them seem moving is to shake the camera around, which is clearly done alot in that video. The real giveaway is that none of the white specs move any closer or farther in relation to each other.


They weren't supposed to look like they were moving. It says so in the article.
2005-06-29, 11:24 PM #66
1. I won't argue that white spheres look suspiciously like weather ballons. The only thing about this that makes me wonder is the fact that they stayed in a triangle formation (according to one article), or at least some of them did, for 30 minutes. Yes, you could easily fake the film, but it's hard to pay off thousands of people to be "witnesses".

2. Temperamental is right - do a quick google search, there are quite a few rather convincing photos from good sources. You want to avoid tabloid like UFO sites and concentrate on sites run by skeptical yet open minded ufologists who are trying to prove, real or not real, whatever it is these things are.

3. The most convincing thing I ever saw, and this was years ago so maybe it's been debunked, was leaked footage of an alien dissection/autopsy at a supposed top secret facility. It was from the 50s or 60s, but I believe it was in color, and pretty damn clear. I don't know what TV show I was watching, but they said the footage was dated and confirmed to be from that era, ruling out any CGI or other effects. It was damn convincing - they were cutting open some real tissue, or something exactly like it. They had some experts of some kind (autopsy doctors probably, I forget what you call them) and they said it would be damn hard to fake something like that.

Not sure if it has been debunked, I'm not even sure what TV show I was watching so I'm unsure of the credibility, but I'll poke around on Google and see if I can find it.
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2005-06-29, 11:49 PM #67
About the "why would an advanced alien race bother with us?" argument/question:

From what we know of our galaxy, life isn't exactly sprawling everywhere. If it were, we probably would've made contact some time ago, assuming we're a young species. Let's entertain the idea that this alien race is one of the few out there.

Now, as far as their intelligence goes...from what we've seen on our own planet, even some of the most vary different species have common organs. Brains, hearts, livers, kidneys, etc. From studying life on our planet we know that us humans have one of, if not the largest brain size in proportion to our bodies. Sheer gray matter isn't everything, but it makes a big difference. Taking a look at the stereotypical gray alien, we see that their brains are probably quite big. This leads us to believe, that if all life is at least somewhat similar, that they are essentially much smarter than us. Probably hundreds of thousands of years of evolution ahead of us, which does make it interesting as to why they would bother with us. Of course life may not be as similar as we see, and their large brains might not mean they are hundreds of thousands of years of evolution ahead of us. It could also mean they have mastered genetic engineering and pushed the fast forward on their evolution. Don't laugh at the idea, we're getting to that point ourselves, but society isn't ready to let us play god.

So why would they be interested in us? As far as technology goes, we've harnessed the power of the atom (atomic blasts are easily visible from space), we're within decades of exploiting the massive energy potential of anti-matter (read: the most effecient form of energy known to exist - matter is converted completely into energy), we're exploring space, showing heavy curiousity. I don't think it's a coincidence that UFO sightings have gone through the roof since World War II (atomic weapons).

Then there's our medical technology, which you must admit, is pretty impressive. People can go their entire lives without a single fear of dying from disease. We're on the verge of huge medical breakthroughs, limited only by our own society. You don't need to be able to read newspapers to tell that - just look our population growth. Within the next few hundreds years we'll be needing to start colonizing other planets.

We also manage to almost destroy ourselves over and over, only to end up thriving in the end. Who knows if this is a unique trait among intelligent life, nor is it something to be proud of, but it is interesting, and to alien life it could say a lot about us. For one, our weapons technology might make us a force to be reckoned with if we ever move out among the stars. Let's assume that they are no super energy shields like in sci-fi, because even the most far fetched physics theories say the energy requirements would be far greater than even things like antimatter, and that's ignoring the problem of manipulating the energy, and that's ignoring the fact that energy probably won't block matter, and won't block other energy which is on the correct wavelength. Granted there's a lot we don't know, but if aliens ARE interested in us, it does suggest there aren't many radical things in science to be discovered as there were, say 200 years ago. The more answers we get and the more we can back up our observations with equations and theories, the less likely there will be more major scientific discoveries. Major scientific discoveries being, like, oh, let's say one day we find out everything we thought we knew was wrong.

We're clearly intelligent, we're clearly trying to explore, and it's pretty clear we are trying to advance. I think that would make us quite interested to alien life, especially if the galaxy is as scare of life as we think it is.

Oh, and to comment on "how/why would aliens travel so far to observe us"...well, there are a lot of theories on faster than light travel which don't violate relativity or quantom mechanics...warp propulsion (folding space around you) is one. There's also the newfangled idea of interdemensional travel, like hyperspace. Suggesting that, if I recall correctly, there are more than 3 spacial demensions, but they're so small that they can't be noticed. If you could move into one of those demensions, travel a short distance and pop back out, you might find yourself on the other side of the galaxy. I can't explain it, the other spacial demensions kind of confuse me. All I know is that I read it on a Wikipedia page about string theory, which call for there to be 10, 11 or 26 spacial demensions according to their equations. Perhaps someone like Mort-Hog could explain it better.

There's also the possibility of generation ships. Or these aliens could have long lives and be very patient. However, that doesn't help to explain the frequent visit phenomenon - aliens visiting, leaving and coming back. Unless they have a base setup somewhere in or near our solar system that we can't detect.
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2005-06-29, 11:54 PM #68
Paging X-Com, paging X-Com...


Those darn Sectoids will never know what hit them.
The answer is maybe.
2005-06-30, 12:15 AM #69
Well, after doing research on the alien autopsy footage, it appears to be quite fake. A few links:

http://www.mactonnies.com/aa.html
http://www.webfellows.com/tufop/alien_autosy.html
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicaut.html
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/aafilm/center.html
http://www.soc.org/opcam/a_autopsy/alienautopsy.html

The last article is especially good, but quite long.
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2005-06-30, 12:35 AM #70
There are also the theories about prehistoric advanced civilizations...check out this article. Now, I know it's a little long, and it seems very far fetched, but if you keep reading, there is some good stuff. Unfortunately they don't site their sources, but it does bring some interesting things to mind.

I believe modern homosapiens appeared around 200,000 years ago, at least genetically. Ancient history starts what, 5 or 6 thousand years ago? If homosapiens, humans with our exact genetic makeup (or within close enough proximity to reproduce with a modern human, making it the same species) have been around for another 195,000 years than what we know...makes you wonder...what were we doing that whole time? Twiddling our thumbs? That's plenty of time for the complete rise and fall of at least one advanced civilization and plenty of time for all the evidence to be wiped off the face of the earth (there is some evidence, read that article, they don't site sources but I've heard of such things before). Especially if they destroyed themselves in a nuclear war or, something very similar. Then there's all the stuff that happens periodically to our planet that can wipe out evidence. Climate changes, ice ages, etc. There's that huge *** volcano in, where is it, Yellowstone I think that blows every couple hundred thousand years. It's a relatively recent discovery since it appeared to be just a crater, but is actually an underground volcano I believe. One with a large enough blast to destroy almost all life on the continent and drop the temperature worldwide some 15 degrees.

This ancient stuff reminds me of those ancient Egyptian glyphs you see of objects that very closely resemble the stereotypical UFO and gray alien. And last I checked, the precise cuts and builds on many ancient monuments and structures are still under debate.

Hmm, this thread has sparked my interested...I'm going to do some more research and make more long ranting posts for anyone who may be interested.
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2005-06-30, 12:45 AM #71
Aaand it appears the hieroglyphic thing is crap. Links...

http://www.catchpenny.org/alien.html
http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html
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2005-06-30, 1:30 AM #72
And my probably last post for the night, a pretty good UFO skeptic/open minded/scientific look at things website...

http://www.ufoskeptic.org/home.html
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2005-06-30, 9:15 AM #73
I think emon pretty much just put everything into perspective best.
2005-06-30, 9:52 PM #74
Sucks for them.
Vann
2005-07-01, 5:27 AM #75
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Originally posted by Emon
And my probably last post for the night, a pretty good UFO skeptic/open minded/scientific look at things website...

http://www.ufoskeptic.org/home.html


Just to comment on one of the points listed. There was no classified part of project Blue Book. The entire project was designed specifically to disprove, by any means possible, any call reporting the existance of UFO's (this is where the "what you saw was the reflection of Saturn off of near-by swamp gas" type stuff came from). In later years, however, one of it's lead scientist, the one who was the most skeptical, started to believe the calls. After Project Blue Book ended, he began interviewing people across the country and trying to get proof of extraterestrial visitations.
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2005-07-01, 7:53 AM #76
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Originally posted by DogSRoOL
The world would be better if we used prostitutes as currency.


And sadly, it would be more sanitary.


Let's see you tightly wrap a hooker and snort cocaine with her.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2005-07-01, 9:04 AM #77
Prophet Yaweh Agrees.
2005-07-01, 4:30 PM #78
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=UFO---Video-from-military-camera-1997

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=UFO---NASA-Shuttle-Video

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=UFO---NASA-Discovery-Flight

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=UFO---Many-clear-sightings-from-a-space-
2005-07-02, 9:25 PM #79
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Originally posted by Wolfy
Let's see you tightly wrap a hooker and snort cocaine with her.
*shudder*
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