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like why did ray kill that guy or what ever he did to him.


and then how did that guys son robbei survived....


explain please....

[edit: spoilered! --JL]

i haven't seen it yet, but one thing has been nagging in the back of my head, do the martians die the same way as from the book, killed by germs, and then eaten by dogs?

Ray killed that other guy because he was crazy and he was going to get them both killed. I thought that was pretty damn obvious. He wouldn't shut up, he kept blabbing on and on, and atleast 3 times he almost got everyone killed. Ray didn't want his daughter to die (or himself for that matter) so the only way to save them was by killing that crazy guy.


I'm guessing his son ran off, or escaped with some troops that survived and made it to Boston on his own. Either way it doesn't really matter. It makes for a 'happy ending'

I didn't understand why an alien would idiotically drink our water without testing it first...I mean...if you're smart enough to contorl the weather on another planet, you think you'd be smart enough to see if theres anything poisonous in things you eat/drink with your mouth.

"Hey, I'm a human and I found some uranium! I think I'll eat it."

The viral part I'll go with because it's how the original movie ended, but drinking hte water struck me as odd.

How is it that the house the mother was at was the only house that wasn't destroyed? It was in perfect condition! All the other people were living in holes.

The aliens were planning this invasion for a million years. You'd think someone might have mentioned an escape plan, just incase something goes wrong...

They didn't get it jsut from drinking the water, it was from everything. They just used water as an example, really..I'm pretty sure it was jsut the general state of infestation by microbes and such that did them in. Maybe they should ahve worn spacesuits, stupid aliens. Oh well, Earth Rules.

Did everyone notice the homages to Independence Day, the Shawshank Redemption, Jurassic Park, and Toy Story? (The Claw!)

According to Hollywood directors, aliens just dont think ahead...

Ray didnt really need to kill Tim Robbin's character, he could have just tied him up and gagged him or knocked him out or something.

YEAHH!!! Go Earth!

Earth! F**k Yeah!

-I haven't seen it yet, though I noticed a subtle jab at Independence day in the trailer: "On a normal day..."

The bike in the basement that the Alien messes with is the bike from E.T which Eliot rides isn't it ? I thought that was a fun thing to include.

great film but was given a 12A rating here in the UK, don't know what everyone else thinks but I don't think 12 year olds should be able to see this film...

I read some reviews about the 12A issue and too be honest thought they were just playing to the "films today are too violent today" speech, but honestly this is not a 12A film...

and the ending was just as it should have been, correct to the book version.

Not all of it was destroyed. That whole street and deeper into the city was still okay, as seen in that huge overview shot at the end. It's just they were ready to attack, and then they started acting weird.

I haven't seen it yet. I hear it's really gory though. Is that true?

It's not really visually gory, but gore is implied. ALot of people die though...through...interesting means.

And the red vines...I mean I think it's opinion on what exactly those were...possibly human organs/blood or something.

The vines were alien 'plants' they were using to terraform earth. I don't know how you missed that.

SACRILAGE, HERESY.

anyway, those red vines are the red weed. also, it was cool how the guy in the basement was a mix of three characters form the book

ogilvey: the name and some of the nievity.

the artileryman: The idea of building a new world underground, and being crazy that way.

nathaniel the preacher: The whole crazy, wont shut up part, only the preacher only got himself knocked out by the main character in the book.

Also, it was interesting how they inplied that the red weed was fed by the bits of gooified human that the martians don't use.



also, just 2 more uears, then jeff wayne releases his musical versian as a cgi movie. he already has done a rerelease fo his album recently.

Well... not so much Hollywood directors as 19th century science-fiction authors. I'm sure the idea of microbes killing alien organisms was a fairly forward-thinking idea at the time. Besides, if such things don't even exist on the aliens' home world, would they even think to test for it? Or maybe the disease that wiped them out was a new strain that their research never encountered. Diseases are constantly mutating. Or maybe I'm thinking waaay too much about the movie.

Also, I don't think tying up the delusional, paranoid psycho is such a great idea. It would only create problems later and would drain resources.

Overall, the movie was much better than I expected. I enjoyed it and thought it was pretty intense. I liked its exploration of humanity's mindless panic and how the human mind struggles so harshly with the fear of the unknown. I want to reread the novel now. The movie has piqued my interest in science fiction again.

Most important question: did they have trouble with wooden doors?

i have no right to ***** about this movie because i haven't even seen it, but i will anyway.

sick and tired of cardboards. cinematorgaphic fast food.

Man o man I want to see this. Maybe not as much as the Fantastic Four though.

I saw it, almost wish i hadnt, even tho it was SPECTACULAR!

I sat down, 1st 10-20 mins, not much happens, then BAM, oh damn I just crapped myself. Seriously i found the action too much to take, I'm not asthmatic but I should have brought an inhaler with me.

It was emotional, exciting, chilling, thought provoking, and gave me nightmares. In fact theres a storm outside right now in London and I'm hiding in the library.


SEE THIS MOVIE.

spoilers : Bring an extra pair of clean underwear.

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Warning: Spoilers...

Well after seeing the movie and I have to say I'm slightly disappointed. Perhaps I hyped myself up too much, because being a huge fan of Orson Welles' radio adaptation, I was not really impressed. I was glad that Spielberg didn't hold back on the brutality that the aliens administered throughout the movie, and was pleased with the alien design (I was half-expecting him to just use his Grays again) and how seamless the CGI was in the picture.

I thought the reason the aliens died was pretty apparent without stating it in bold lettering (although a majority of the audience didn't see it this way, as I heard almost every person I walked by asking whoever they went with how the aliens ended up dying.)

Overall the movie was a fun to watch, but I felt little, if any, attachment to the characters and knew everything would "be happy" in the end (I'm referring to the family reunion.) The only characters I felt for were the ones we learned nothing about other than what was to be taken at face-value (ie. the bodies in the lake and chaos erupting over the van.) Also, the scene in the basement was drawn out way too long. The movie was lacking a lot, and seems like it was really rushed through production. I would have expected more from Spielberg in terms of an alien movie (as he's done well in the past) - while the thrills and tension were there, nothing else was.

Overall I'd probably give it a 2.5 - 3.0/4.0.

I didn't like how they 'simplified' the opening dialogue. I didn't realise I knew that dialogue word for word until I noticed how they got it wrong. The original dialogue is so awesome in its collocation. And as much as I like Morgan Freeman, his voice wasn't quite right for it.

The movie would have made more sense in a 19th century setting (and of course set in the ever-glamorous Woking).
The idea that there are millions of huge metal machines buried underground across the globe might make sense at the turn of the century, but with all our seismic technology we would have at least come up with a 'Hmm... that's odd...'.

It also would have been nice to feature the Jeff Wayne concept album music.

The chances of anything coming from Mars... were a million to one they said... OOOOooo....

I also got bored of Tom Cruise's guy pretty quickly, of that idiot just running and getting all emotional with his daughter, and surviving by nothing more than dumb luck. Why would we want to hear about Martian domination of Earth from the perspective of a crane operator? It would have been more interesting to hear it from an astronomer, or a biologist, or an army guy, or anyone that actually knew anything about anything. I'm bored of the 'average Joe makes a difference!' mentality.

All in all, I thought it was a pretty bog standard action movie with too big a budget. There's only so many times you can be impressed by cars flipping over.

The Timothy Hines version, supposedly set of release some time soon as well, looks far more interesting. But I dunno what's happening with it now.

Those "crane operators" as you call them, make six figures, for what they do, and how fast they can do it. Just so you know.

Adding on the thread, I just saw the movie again about a couple of hours ago, for the second time. I said it in the other thread... the sound those tripods make is just so emotion inducing. So deep-throated and LOUD, it just terrifies right to the bone. Such a perfectly matching noise for a machine of that magnitude to make.

tim hines is out already. you dont want to see it. unless you are up for a three hour movie with lots of walking, crappy cgi http://plan9timbo.tripod.com/index.htm (note those images look better in stills than they do in the actual film) and a guy with a fake mustache.

and, about changing the opening, they had to do it. for one thing, the aliens arn't from mars any more, it is in the modern day, and it is just changed so that the regular audience does not get bored.

also, about jeff wayne,

1) he owns partial rights to war of the worlds

2) he is not going to let holiwood touch it, as he knows that movies can fail.

3) he is making a cgi movie based around his musical version.

also, the amount of shilling for tim hines that is going on at amazon.com is just disgraceful. they were also doing it at imdb, but they must have found it too hard to shill to people who respond quickly.

That would be great if the screenshots were for a video game, cause that's how they look...

nope, those are in film shots, they look better as shots as their movent is very pathetic. the boat looks like it is being propelled by a rocket.

Just got back from the move. Overall a bit better than I expected, but not by a whole lot...

***SPOILERS***

To start out with, the radio broadcast is very different from the book, and the movie was very different from the radio broadcast, only some basic themes were borrowed between the three. I was expecting this to be based more on the old movie and radio broadcast than the book, as the book never seemed like it would translate well to a movie. That said, it actually borrowed a lot of basics from the book (the basement scene, the red weed's), but was really off in other ways.

The whole blood/fertilizer thing was an interesting take (I don’t remember it from the book, but its been a while), but overall I think it was kinda a bad move. Again, it's been a while since I read the book, but I seem to remember the focus more being on the (Marian) industries of war so to speak (the capsules, the Martian encampment, ECT). This cast more of a harvester/combine/teraforming approach, and almost made humans more significant (IE the aliens needed the humans as fertilizer, possibly why they waited for humans to advance and flourish before "attacking").

The characters were kina meh. Ray was OK, not good, not bad, just there. Rob was the same. The little girl was somewhat interesting, in that unlike most little kids in movies, she seemed to portray about how I would expect your average kid that age to respond. I also liked the way they portrayed the mob mentalities with the car and ferry scenes.

As for the virus ending, it kept with the book, and Ill be happy with that. On the one hand, you are spraying the blood of deceased humans all over the place, and you honestly expect not to have to worry about the microorganisms IN that blood? On the other hand, the whole extra-terrestrial microbe argument is quite controversial. Microbes don’t actually adapt terribly well, they just evolve relatively quickly (read 1000 years instead of one million years), so in order for them to affect the aliens, their biology would have to be remarkably similar to ours (pH levels, temperature, blood chemistry, cellular biology…), otherwise none of our terrestrial microbes would be able to survive long enough in an alien system to do anything. This is the same reason why there are many scientists today who are saying that we DON’T have to worry about brining back live microbes from the moon or mars…

Does the movie have Gustav Holst's "Mars, Bringer of War"?
If it doesn't, it's a failure in my eyes. Seriously. Any movie where martians kill a bunch of people... really, any movie where mars is featured at all should have this song.
I only forgive "Mars Attacks!" because of Danny Elfman's kickin tunes.

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I find the combination of the subject matter and the webhost to be frikkin hillarious. Does anybody else?

-Hah hah. Get it?

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no, since the guys are never specificly said as coming from mars