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This just in: optical mouses blow
2005-07-03, 5:02 PM #41
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Originally posted by Darth
At one point Amazon was selling them for $50, and other placed had them less than $60 plus $10 rebates for a while, but they seem to have stopped that for now and they're back up to $60 at Amazon.

I bought mine when it came out at $80 or whatever it was though and I didn't find it to be priced that high, because that's what it cost you to get an Intellimouse Explorer when they were introduced.

And yes, Ratpadz will eat feet quicker than most anything, but teflon tape over them keeps them safe.

Back when I got mine a few years ago they were the best thing around though.


They've got a lot of new metal and polycarbonate mousepads around now that are just awesome. Really the metal's better because if nothing else it'll last you longer :D
D E A T H
2005-07-03, 5:06 PM #42
Yeah, this little bugger's worn down quite a bit over the years. Polishing it helps for a while, but replacement isn't too far in the future.
2005-07-03, 5:08 PM #43
Steelpads are great buys. They're at 35-45 now and after having used one, their sexy. Just don't dent them :(
D E A T H
2005-07-03, 5:14 PM #44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=202&manufactory=1814

I'm guessing the S&S is the best?

What's the deal with the middle one saying it doesn't work with wireless mice? The surface creating RF interference I guess?
2005-07-03, 5:15 PM #45
I realize that the MX1000 might be more responsive with tweaking, but still, the thing is about 3 times the weight of my current mouse. I also don't see it making that much of a difference for games unless you're comparing it to a ball mouse. Most people will be able to pull off the same level of accuracy with a regular optical mouse as they could with a "lazer" mouse. The only application I can see it being better for is graphics creation, which isn't something I do regularly. Personally, I'd probably rather get a tablet for graphics work in any case.
2005-07-03, 5:19 PM #46
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Originally posted by Ric_Olie
Optical trackball > *

YES.
2005-07-03, 5:23 PM #47
i am sorry, but WTF is an optical trackball?
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2005-07-03, 5:24 PM #48
WTF means "Welcome To France."

Spread the word.
2005-07-03, 5:25 PM #49
One day my monitor randomly came out of standby while I was playing music... My MX1000 had detected movement created by the vibration from the subwoofer...

That's either a testament to its precision or the strength of my Klipsch subwoofer, or both, hah.

Optical trackballs use a sensor to detect movement of the trackball instead of rollers that move against the ball. Trackballs are meh though.
2005-07-03, 5:26 PM #50
i was asking about the optical trackball. isn't that a contridiction in terms.
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2005-07-03, 5:34 PM #51
kinda... optical mice have the advantage over ball mice of being more accurate and not needing to be cleaned...

optical trackballs only have the accuracy advantage... you still need to clean them
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2005-07-03, 5:40 PM #52
It takes 5 seconds. :p You take out the ball, and just pass your finger over the 3 bumps that the ball rests on.
2005-07-03, 5:47 PM #53
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Originally posted by spud
I realize that the MX1000 might be more responsive with tweaking, but still, the thing is about 3 times the weight of my current mouse. I also don't see it making that much of a difference for games unless you're comparing it to a ball mouse. Most people will be able to pull off the same level of accuracy with a regular optical mouse as they could with a "lazer" mouse. The only application I can see it being better for is graphics creation, which isn't something I do regularly. Personally, I'd probably rather get a tablet for graphics work in any case.


With tweaking?

Trust me, the MX1000 is a lot more accurate, and you can tell, especially in games like Counterstrike when you're trying to line up that perfect headshot. Also, when you move a mouse really quickly how much of that movement it detects is a testament to its accuracy. A lot of optical mice don't detect the entire movement.

Like I said, your average laymen will never know the difference, but a hardcore gamer/graphics man will.

Oh and trackballs suck for gaming. <_< >_> *runs*
D E A T H
2005-07-03, 8:39 PM #54
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2005-07-03, 9:05 PM #55
Trackballs suck and if you use them you are crazy.

CRAZY
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2005-07-03, 9:54 PM #56
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
With tweaking?
Yes, with tweaking. For me, it was nowhere near usable when I tried it out. It didn't seem very precise. Perhaps it was a little too responsive at the setting I used.

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Trust me, the MX1000 is a lot more accurate, and you can tell, especially in games like Counterstrike when you're trying to line up that perfect headshot. Also, when you move a mouse really quickly how much of that movement it detects is a testament to its accuracy. A lot of optical mice don't detect the entire movement.
Yes, the MX1000 could be more responsive, but being more responsive doesn't necessarily mean it will be more accurate. The accuracy really depends on the person. If you're used to a certain type of mouse and can get extremely accurate shots/movement with it, then upgrading to a supposedly "better" mouse isn't likely to increase your accuracy. Because of the weight, some people find it to be an extremely uncomfortable mouse to use. That could mean that they won't be able to get as accurate of movement out of the MX1000 as they would out of their older mouse.

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Like I said, your average laymen will never know the difference, but a hardcore gamer/graphics man will.
Once again, I have to bring up the point that it depends on the person you're talking about. I'm still willing to believe that it would be usable for graphics creation, but seriously, it's not the perfect mouse for everyone. Some people like the weight and think it has a "solid" feel; other people can't stand it and feel it's too heavy and not usable for FPS-type games. I just happen to be one of the people who like lighter mice, and I'm really not willing to spend $100 on a mouse just for graphics creation.

Nobody is right in this dispute. The MX1000 is right for certain people and wrong for others. In my specific case, it's right for certain uses and not for others.
2005-07-03, 10:10 PM #57
Yes, it depends on the person, but only partially. However, in fast paced shooters like utk24, i often flick my mouse very fast to get the perfect shot. With a low responsive mouse, the thing will crap out on you and go all over the place.
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2005-07-03, 11:06 PM #58
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Originally posted by Dj Yoshi
Oh yeah, Steelpad > Polycarbonate mousepad > *

Anyone who uses their desk is really quite silly. It destroys the teflon feet on your mouse. Hell even cloth pads aren't that amazingly smart of a purchase, especially not Ratpadz. I'd say your best bet are steelpads, icemats (NOT THE GLASS ONES) and the other odd polycarbonate pad. You want something big and spacey.

Um, polycarbonate would be a horrible mousing surface. Polycarbonate is a soft, machinable impact resistant plastic. It will wear out like crazy. To my knowledge there are no polycarbonate mouse pads in the industry. All the Icemats are glass. Steelpads are anodized aluminum. Aluminum would be pretty hardwearing for a mouse, but the anodized finish makes it even harder since aluminum oxide is one of the hardest surfaces known. Glass and anodized aluminum are the only way to go. I found the Corepad was a good compromise of performance and noise/dust problems, but wasn't too good for wireless mice because the increased friction made it stick ever so slightly.

Also, most feet on mice aren't teflon, they're just a hard plastic like nylon.

Oh, and theoretically, anodized aluminum (level III) > glass > superhard plastic > anything else. In practice since companies probably cut costs and don't have that great of an anodized finish, glass > aluminum > hard plastics > else. Glass isn't going to wear out on you in a lifetime. Try scratching your mirror. It's not that easy.
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