I'm at my grandma's house, fixing her computer, she has Juno...

loaded with spyware.

So, i downloaded Firefox (45 mins)

and Thunderbird (1 hour)

and messed around here meanwhile...





I gotta tell ya, massassi is SLOW AS HECK on dial up.

I dont know how I ever put up with it.

(I have had DSL for 2 years now)

33.6 k versus 768 k... Wonder who won.

Um...thanks for the info?

33.6k sounds like a sucky dial up connection. I am still cursed with 56k and I regularly connect between 45 and 49. o_O

I'm on a 26400-28800 connection. At least WoW, GWs, and JK still work well.

1.5M/384K >.>

My parents still have dial up and it blows.

I was leaving with dial-up until 6 months ago and now have a 2mbit line..the difference is very noticeable...gaming is so much better, playing HL2DM is a joy which without broadband I wouldn't be able to do...

Welcome to the world of OMG DUH!

So.

Why do you type

Like this?

(really?)

Because its.

Really Fun?

Dude, JK can run on an abacus.

meh, I uise it, game play ok, mostly because the lag i get is simmilar t the crappy framerate I used to get on my previous computer. still, i do want to get cable.

Well, dial-up might be the older way to go but it is still fine for many people. You just have to work within the limitations.

Actually, it's not really fine for anyone anymore. Even simple browsing is insanely enhanced by broadband--and the computers are definitely at a level where you'd notice the difference, even the sub-500 prefabs.

Bull.

I have 56k at home and the Uni computer labs have at least a dedicated T1 or higher line. Just browsing Massassi I see virtually no difference. The only time that line has really impressed me is when I've gone somewhere that's graphic intensive, streamed movies, loaded a flash intro, or started downloading something. Everything else is roughly the same, only a minor boost.

You're on crack. I went from browsing on cable, to browsing on dial up when I went to my aunt's house for a weekend. I couldn't stand it. It's not really noticeable on massassi, but on other sites good GOD does it bog down.

And don't forget, for an entire uni T1 isn't that great at all. In fact, most of the time you're only getting 5-10 kbps for yourself on said T1. Trust me, my high school, read, HIGH SCHOOL which had only ~1500 computers in it (that's a LOT for a high school, yes) bogged down on a OC3. It sometimes got extremely bad, worse than 56k bad.

But really, it's not that inconceivable that a lot of sites today would run a lot faster on broadband. I mean, really, how many sites do you know of that you regularly visit that AREN'T graphically intensive? Massassi's the only one I can say this of. All the other forums I go to have way too many images, and all the other sites are sites like SA or ctrlaltdel or something else, and while not insanely intensive, it's more than enough to load quite a bit slower on a connection that effectively downloads at 5 kb/s.

I could dissect this and talk about basic image sizes and stuff, but to say that browsing on 56k is virtually no different than browsing on broadband is just...silly.

Or maybe you guys have just had very different experiences and are accomplishing nothing by arguing like this?

Essentially.

Look. What it boils down to is how wraped up you get in the speed. The more you dwell on it the more you're going to miss it later. I don't dwell on it so I don't care.

If you have your own broadban line, there is a huge difference, even just browsing stuff like the forums. Part of the reason it might seem fast is that you have some stuff cached.

For me at home I like my high speed connection. If I happen to be travelling, dial up is fine as all I need is to check the news or my email. If I were poor, yet afluent enough to have a computer and internet access, I would be fine with dial up. Like I said, you just have to work within the limitations. On a site like Massassi the difference is relatively minor.

45 minutes for Firefox? A 4.7 MB file? I downloaded that in about six minutes on my dial-up. I've had two dial-up options - CSU and CWRU dial-ups at my mom and brother/sister's universities, respectively. We're like, the only people that use them so we always get full bandwidth...although CWRU shut down their dial-up service at the end of the month. The last remain of the Cleveland Freenet, the origins of...well, a lot of the internet.

My dial up is pretty quick. Massassi and alot of games load faster on dial up here than it does on my schools comps that have dsl......not that its anything to be proud of since most school comps and connections suck.

Umm....does this even qualify as "old news"?

My name is Zloc_Vergo. I've got 28k dial up. It doesn't bother me until everyone goes and plays a game online, or watches big trailers on the internet, or is downloading some BIG game demo. It's generally fine for web-surfing. Just downloading is super-slow, it's been getting up to around 3.5 kbps lately...OMFG! And don't say I can do better than that, because I SERIOUSLY AM STUCK WITH IT.!

At school my download is uncapped, it's only limited by the incoming pipe and the 100 Mbps network. Burst download speeds of 16 MB/sec are not uncommon, and sustained streams of 10 MB/sec happen on a daily basis from the correct servers. As far as I can tell the upload is capped at 1 Mbps per IP address (which means I can have as server without hogging bandwidth on my workstation).

In short: Burnsauce.

Sounds roughly like our connection, cept our upload seems to cap around 10 Mb/s.

Yay for those massive fiber optic clusters running underground, heh.

CWRU has most schools beat with their future-proof Gigabit Fiber Optic runs to every computer.

Yeah, the network here's still 100 Mb/s. Fiber optic runs into most buildings with switch rooms like this.

Yeah fiber runs are pretty standard at most places between buildings. Signal degregation and EMI are havoc on copper.

Sadly there are still a ton of places way behind on their campus networks and internet connections.

TTU, where I considered for a while, great engineering school, yet their network is so awful. 100 kb/s down on a very good day, heh.

10 mbps / 100 mbps

my ISP is upgrading my 512k connection to a 2mb connection for free.

uberwoots

I can't even stand to use a dial-up connection after having used DSL for so long. I get too frustrated and don't use the internet until I can use high-speed internet. :p

You know your internet is too fast when:

Your harddrive can't keep up.

:/

I await the day that happens. I'm sure it won't be long.

I'm quite happy with my download speeds, 6mbps.

My upload speeds leave a little to be desired, however. only 512kbps.

For a home internet connection, however, 6mbps down is a helluva lot. But I still can't wait for college

Verizon's testing out 15mbps down. A local company has 10 mbps down, 1mbps up. It's getting to the point where 3mbps down is getting kinda slow.

Dial-up is decent if you use it to browse a web page or two occasionally, and that is about it.

No kidding..I actually had no internet access at home for months...maybe even a year (I forget). It's no fun..and we still can't get broadband here.

Two weeks and two days and we move..

...People still use dial-up?...:eek:

Yeah but doesn't the information on the other end come off a hard drive?

Sometimes, but you forget that 1) the information is coming off a FASTER hard drive usually, and 2) they have humongous ramdisks sometimes.