No, this isn't about my parents, we have gotten that all fixed now.
I have a really interesting problem that I hope you guys can advise me with. I think I already know what to do, but personally I want to see what you guys would do. This started around November/December

I seem to have a problem with two kids, twins to be precise.
It seems that they have gotten it into their heads that for some reason, I am bad mouthing them.

I have done non-such of the sort, and then they started using a friend of such that I knew to get their point across to me.

I didn't care, and decided that they could badmouth me all they wanted too.

Everything laid low for a while, I made several new friends that I hung out with alot towards the end of the school year, met a girl that I liked that unfortunatley moved away, so otherwise, the year went pretty well for me.

Fast forward to july 5th.

I come home from vacation to find a message machine full of messages from them, ranging from just insane ranting on how gay I am, to actual death threats against me, telling me how they hoped I died and how they were going to kill me.

The Stinkywrix does not take kindly to that.

Later in the day, I figured out that an ex-friend has been supplying them with false information, as I have never said anything of the sort against them.

As I have already said, I know what I am going to do, but what I want to know, is what you would do.

/me hands the Stinky kid a chainsaw

You know what to do. >.>

Find the most evil way to cast revenge on their sorry little ***es.


...Or just ignore them and see what happens in the next little while. You could call the cops about the death threats though.

Hey, trust me, do not lose sleep over it. Most Likely they were drinking our something and wanted to show each other how big of hardasses in order to cover up their habitual incest love for one another. This kind of crap happens to all of us. If you really want to feel better about it, call them back late at night when you can leave a message, and rip on the fact that they have no intellectual skills and call them out for things that you know would really hurt their feelings. Don't call them gay or anything but call them *****es for trying to act hard over a message machine. Then call up your biggest friends and go meet them somewhere. Cheers. (worked for me)

Just as Snoopfighter said, don't take what they said to heart. It is probable that nothing will really happen, and they were just being blatantly stupid, and, while they are annoying, are most likely harmless. If you want, call them back, and comment on how "special" they are, and ask why they couldn't wait and say these things to your face. Then, see where things go.

How old are these kids? What was your relationship like in the beginning? Do they have a neglective dad?

If they were leaving death threats, all the poilce. If you still have the messages, the police can probably do something with it.

start badmouthing them

you got nothing to lose now

Phhht, chainsaws are for pansies.

Take this.

/me tosses stinkywrix a nice, big, frozen leg of lamb.

I don't know much about their relationship with their parents, except that they run a buisness with one of my moms friends.

I would hang out with them with the ex-friend for a while back in fourth grade, but in 6th he started hanging out with them almost religiously.

They are older then me by two months.

Do not call the cops, that is really a crappy idea and a good way to not make more friends.

Listen, I don't have much to go on, and I'm not pretending to know a lot about this, but I have seen of lot of those types of people (including some ex-good friends) and the recurring theme is most often this: a home situation which doesn't leave room for initiative and is even repressive (punishing father - passive mother). Look for alcohol abuse.

Again, the above is only the pattern I see in a very small sample. Maybe, probably, I'm way off. Check it out anyway.

Ignore them 100%. When they keep crossing the line, tell them they are, and if they'll do it again, you'll go the police. Then do so. It could be just me, but death treats is crossing my line bigtime, and I'd make sure they'd thoroughly understand that you're not bull****ting. Leave the messages as evidence.

There's not much info to go on here but from the little that you can provide it seems to me that one twin is focusing his anger towards his brother for burning his teddy bear on a cross on you. The other twin is obviously upset over the negative cash flow in the family business and is jealous of the attention his brother is giving you because of his action. Certainly they have both made ammends and decided to kill you. I would look for signs of teddy abuse.

Of course this is just based on my experience with some really good ex-teddies.

I...don't think he wants these kids to be his friends, but that's just me.

Call them and calmly apologize for anything you may have done to offend them, and kindly ask them to back off.

And then wear a cup. You know, just in case.

ummm only trying to help

Yes, and maybe I should go dance around on a rim of a volcano.

I like Snoopfighters idea, I may have to fit that in...

I don't think he asked for help with psychoanalyzing the personality flaws of the two kids. Why does everyone on this board feel the need to play "Dr. Expert"? You aren't a psychologist in the least and it just sounds retarded to offer up your ideas on "social patterns", especially in this case, where it is completely unrelated.

It's not unrelated... I have seen this before, with the above common elements every time. I believe in causality, and if it helps understand, then I'm posting it.

Edit: you know what's *unrelated* though? Psychoanalysis.

Oh please. He already understands why they are doing this. His ex-friend has been feeding them false info that he is badmouthing them. There is no room here for your baseless assumptions on the relationships within these two kid's family. It IS unrelated.

So you're thinking that's normal that people send other people death threats over 'false information'?

I think it's demented that people can be ok when looking for a cause over broken airconditioning, but get internet-tough guy when looking for cause for ummm... broken behavior.

As I said, I could be wrong. Couldn't hurt to look for it, no?

I don't think anyone has asked this yet, but what ARE you going to do to them?

Personally, I would just confront them and tell them to piss off. Just make sure you lift weights for like a month before you confront them

I'm glad I never got picked on in HS. An added plus was that my friends were/are VERY big and crazy fighters.

Kill THEM first.
Survival of the fittest, *****es.


Or maybe the call the cops, and tell them about it. One of the two.

Personally, what I was going to do was go egg their house, but then I realized that would be too easy.

I've decided to senceforth go with snoops idea.

If they pull any more of this ****, I'm going to do a whole lot more then just badmouth them back.

Don't do either. That makes you no better than they are, and will only encourage them to fight back, while also putting you at their legal mercy. Wether or not you're willing to call the police on them, if they manage to get you to retaliate by doing something illegal (such as egging their house or harassing them over the phone), they might call the cops on you just to get you in deeper ****.

My suggestion is either call the police, or ignore it. But do not retaliate. I'm sure you've heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right", and while most people ignore that as a stupid parental saying, the truth of the words remain. You stand only to put yourself at more risk by retaliating, while also sinking down to their level of scum.

It's times like this when I ask myself, "What Would Boba Fett Do?"

Then I know the answer.

noone is calling the cops... omg, the only way the other losers would call the cops was if he left a death threat which he isn't. He is not sinking to their level by calling them out for trying to act like hardasses over a phone. Quit trying to think about the legality of it. It is a HS bull**** pissing contest.

DON'T DO THIS.

Ask yourself "What would a blood thirsty grizzly bear do?"

Only thing is that it has become all too common to hear of some kid killed by some other kid for some stupid reason. You know, if he said that they told him they'd shoot him many here would probably react different and start preaching about the evils of guns.

The only problem here is that going to the cops won't accomplish anything. Even if they charge the kids with "terroristic threat" that won't stop them and might even agitate the situation. And, let's face it, cops are there to react to crime not stop it.

Death Threats = Immediate Call to the Police

Getting cuffed and interrogated will definitely scare them away from this type of behavior in the future.

Some of you guys are so immature, it makes me sick. Death threats are no laughing matter. Sure, there's a pretty good chance that it's all talk, but it's certainly not a risk I'd want to take. Making death threats is a serious charge.

Avenger's right. Death threats are no laughing matter. I think you should also (if you havn't already) call the police on this matter.

Brian may be correct too where they'll get scared half to death. But also, this might agitate them more, and have confidence to say "Yeah, I got the cops pulled on me one time. I'm cool" and start making phone calls back saying "Oh? Calling the cops on us, eh? Well this time we mean it for real".

That would be bad.

... In which case he just calls them again, and they get arrested.

If you're smart, there is absolutely nothing they can do to you, while you can screw up most of their lives by getting them sent to prison. If you fight back the same way they are, though, what does it solve? It'll just make them fight back harder the next time, and will put you at greater risk.

You'd be an idiot to fight back their way. Don't.

Calling the cops is a no-brainer if he is seriously concerned with the threats. It's just also very possible that it will make the situation worse. Like I said, cops react to crime. They don't prevent it.

Twins are evil and scary and have no business interacting with us normals (unless they're hot twins). I say take vengence!

i don't think you guys understand that bullies don't understand any other form of retaliation unless it is somewhat in there league. calling cops will make it worse for him if others find out and he will be labeled a panzy for calling the cops about a stupid phone call... Death threats aside, I think we've all had them (most of us) and all it ever equated to was a fight or more ***** talking. It's typical highschool stuff and as I think you guys are reading into it a little to much. Any person that is half smart wouldn't think about killing anyone for the dire consequence of life in jail. We all watch those detective shows, there is no getting away with it, we all know this.

I understand it perfectly, if a bully is bully you, like smacking you in the head when you walk down the hall or taking your milk money. In cases like that, I'm all for standing up for yourself, even if it means taking a lick or two. However, a line was crossed that shouldn't have been when they threatened to kill him. That's beyond bullying.

Calling the cops will probably only really make it worse if they are serious. And plenty of "smart" people murder. Murder is not a crime related to intelligence so much as mental issues.