Because we're not radical communistic country with no backbone in their government.


Kthnxusuckbye.

Monoxide, shut up. You're annoying.

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On an unrelated note, this week marks the 60th anniversery of the useage of testing Nucelear arms.

(July 15th-21st, 1945 in New Mexico)

Happy Armaggedon day everyone!

Bwahahaha

I haven't really heard much as to the RELIABILITY of China's nuclear armaments, but I do know that it seems they SORELY lack behind the US, and even Russia, in technology level.

Current number say that while China may have a few thousand warheads, they have but TEN ICBMs to launch them; each ICBM can only use a single warhead, is fairly dated, and are kept DISSASEMBELED in storage sites well-monitored by US (and other) sattelites.

In other words, by the time China could possibly even ASSEMBLE a missile to strike the USA, (or Europe, Canada, Australia, or any other modernized country other than Japan and South Korea, for that matter) let alone TARGET and FIRE the missile, the US military could leisurely select an option for disabling the missile before launch; no "Star Wars" type missile defense shield needed! America could simply launch one of its own land-based ICBMs, and nuke the launch pad right then and there.

China may have a lot when it comes to numbers, but they have old technology; their thousands of jets are pathetically slow compared to any modern NATO design, and their land-based armaments are all old Soviet stuff; vintage 1970's tanks, and so on.

As for China's message for the USA? DEFINITELY old news. They quite honestly need to change their broken record. Perhaps they might be more interesting if they actually adopted a full capitalist system in earnest, rather than outwardly expressing communism while secretly trading and importing from the USA to prevent the collapse of their "economy."

The US wouldn't even need to attack China to stop an invasion of Taiwan. Just stop trading with China and sit back while their economy quickly colapses.

Well, China does export way more than it imports. The economy may go down quickly or not, I dunno.

All I need to say is:

Do you think George Lucas was making a statement with this supposid "Empire" containing a super space station of death called "The Death Star" being attacked by the "good guys" AKA "Rebels"?

"o.O"

0_o

Cool, nukes. As long as they're falling on China and I'm just watching them on TV, it's all good. I love watching nuclear explosions... so surreal...

They're becoming less and less communist these days, althought the goverment doesn't really like to admit it.

With all the deadliness of nukes and how bad it is for them to be used by anyone, why haven't they been pushing for ways to counter them, because we all know nobody is going to just dismantle them.

Then is it time for the... SECRET NUCLEAR BUNKER?!

China doesn't have the balls to nuke America. Not only could America flatten China several times over in a retaliation strike, but countries all over the world would turn on them and cut off trade or send forces into China to wrest control from those that launched the nukes. This is yet another one of China's bluffs.

I wouldn't be so sure about the rest of the world being eager to invade China, Kieran. It's a terrifying prospect.

You'd be suprised what people will do when they feel threatened. If they see someone nuke the strongest nation in the world, they'll probably think "Well, what's going to keep them from nuking us?" That's provided there is any China left after the retalitory strike.

edit: there could also be secondary motivations as well. "Well, America just retaliated and severely crippled the Chinese military and infrastructure. Lets go in and carve a piece of China for ourselves!"

Well one thing is for sure, they don't need to be all like OMG DONt TRY AND STOP US OR WE WILL HAX I M<EAN NUKE! because that'd make the world hate them like they hate the US.. sorta, but they'd be the ones that act with mass destruction instead of the ones that act to prevent mass destruction.

Best thing is that it's not even a photoshop.

Taiwan was never an independant country.

Taiwan has nothing to gain from trying to gain independance, and it isn't even the Taiwanese people. It's just a few very loud politicians. China is dealing with this whole thing very badly, because there isn't a huge unified independance movement, it's just rhetoric from incredibly unpopular nationalists. They're trying to 'frighten' the Taiwanese when they don't really pose any threat to the One China policy anyway. China would be far more succesful by just ignoring the Taiwanese nationalists.
The One China policy is there to stop the nation from collapsing back into a dozen tiny warring states, and stabilises the area in general.

The One China policy is also there to unify all the formerly Chinese lands under the undemocratic, one-party, communistic rule. Whilst what you say is all sane in some respect, we aren't living the days of Qin Dynasty anymore.

Amen.

Dude, do you even know what he was saying?

Basically the One China policy keeps everyone stuck under communistic rule with no chance to have a say in their government or escape said government, and we're not living in the days where China was split up into a lot of smaller, warring states. In concludion, yes, I do. Why would you think I didn't?

No, but everyone would be far worse off were the area to collapse into chaos. China may be undemocratic, but it is stable, and with the rapid economic growth, China will change. Independance movements are counter-productive, and should instead be putting pressure on the government to change, rather than trying to run away from it.


And stop using the word 'communistic'. It's another one of those super-duper-adjectives. 'communist' is an adjective too and means exactly the same thing, without the completely unnecessary 'ic' ending.
Communisticoriffic!

Cause I had no ****ing idea what the Qin Dynasty was.

Communistic.

And Tenshu--play more Romance of the Three Kingdoms Not to mention being in Scholars Bowl it's kinda my job to know things like that.

Awesome, I learn everyday.

I don't know. It would seem that a growing economy would benefit the dictatorship. "hay guyz! look! My ideas DO work so STFU!" The dictatorship can ride on the economic coattails with some well-played politics (and threats).

I think the drunken wizard is planning on taking over the world. Hrmm...

There is nothing wrong at the moment, just a threat. We still have to make the first move of intervening in a war, between China and Taiwan, that seems possible but is not imminent.

Thing is, America usually DOES make the first move.. Either that or sometime they butt their noses in.

...okay, so we USUALLY make the first move. What have we done so far, Temp? Exactly, now stop being such a damned armchair politician. If you hate what's going on so badly, write the American senate or even the President. Granted, they probably won't pay attention to what you have to say, but at least you'll get something done instead of sitting and whining.

Yeah it's starting to piss me off. I'll never understand how people can willingly drop $20-$40 a week or more on a dumb-assed card game. It's kinda fun from time to time, but not every week for that much money.

And perhaps they're right.

Hong Kong was never a democracy, and that has had incredible economic success. Perhaps that success, even in part, is due to the lack of the democracy? They had leaders that knew what they were doing, and they did it well. They didn't have to waste time with trying to convince everyone to vote for them or waste money on expensive campaigns, they just did their job and did it well. So perhaps something can be said for undemocracy.
The same with mainland China, the economic growth isn't exactly independant of government. So perhaps you should give this 'undemocracy' some credit, because it could be partly responsible for the economic success.

Hong Kong succeeded so well because of the immensely free market. But it had some of the worst organized crime problems anywhere. True their crimes like murder, rape, etc were down, but it was a haven for organized crime, which can be truly worse for the country. Not to mention, Hong Kong had almost no government, which is kind of what democracy is trying to achieve. The severe lack of government EXCEPT through the people.

IF they arent going to listen, which they wont (tehre is no "probably", they WONT), tehres no point. And it's not whining, it's expressing my viewpoint of America and what it's doing/done in the past.

I'll be an armchair politician if i want, just like you'll be an *** if you want.

Well then all the "expressing your opinions" in the world doesn't count for crap. Do something about it, if you care at all. I've got a quote for you if you truly think America is so evil:

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
-Edmund Burke.

Bring it. What ever happens happens. Stupid humans.


Or at least thats how I feel much of the time.