Ok, so here's the deal. I walk into the toilets at work today, and having concluded my enterprises there, I (as always) go to wash my hands. I then move toward the metal box hanging on the wall which 'hygenically' dries my hands. All good so far.

Now comes the problem.

This automatic hand dryer claims to be 'environmentally friendly' because it saves 'countless trees'.

LIES LIES LIES

Every time you wave your hands under it, a highish current passes through the thin wires of the heating element to create heat, and then a fan blows the warmed air onto your hands. So you don't use paper towels, but you know what - the electrical energy warming your hands is likely coming from coal or another non-renewable source! The paper towels though 'using trees' are sustainable! You can plant more trees! Really - they even do it by themselves in the wild!

So when an electric hand dryer tells you smugly that it is superior to simple paper towels, just remember where the warm air is coming from: dead plant life from x million years ago that is running out.

So there.

(It's funny where your mind wanders when you're washing your hands)

It is true

I know all about it, although it is true that using and electric hand drier does reduce paper towel use. Things powered by electricity are only as clean as the power plants that generate the power.

MORE GREEN POWER!

So...what do I dry my hands with now?

(This thread reminds me of Family Guy so much...)

Just wipe them on your pants and everyone is happy. Except maybe your date about the water stains on your shirt.

Dude, you have pockets for a reason.

Just wipe them on your socks you guys. You don't NEED paper towels or blowdriers, it's just a luxury for impatient people. :p

We all need men in waistcoats to buy our hands clean.... Or dry water, that would be freakin' cool.

pffft, other people work the best

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Too bad I am of course being sarcy :p

I have never liked those lousy hot air hand dryers. Simple paper towels are far superior.

And this country has enough forests and paper industry to supply more than enough paper towels. Frankly, I think they use those electric machines only because with them they don't need to empty trash cans or refill the towel dispensers. Lazy bastards...

Edit: Wow... I actually posted not to the end of the thread, but before two posts that had been there for a while already. This new forum software works even worse than automatic hand dryers...

That's why I carry a sheepskin sash around with me at all times, or rather around my waist like a pirate. What is the price of one sheep when compared to the price of the millions of trees cut down to produce paper towels/electricity?

You are now on PETA's hit list.

Actually, the electricity here is hydro.

Too bad that it takes energy to harvest trees, make paper, and ship the paper.

Ive heard that most paper is barley even made from trees anymore.

dont have any sources, just heard that from someone, itd be an interesting thing to look up though.

Mmmm....e-paper.

FISH KILLER



Propaganda.

"Consumers believe they no longer have to ask for recycled, but more than 90 percent of the printing and writing paper made in this country is still made from trees." --Susan Kinsella, ConservaTree

PETA has been after me ever since that time i was really hungry and mistook a guy they had in a cow suit for a real cow...

Mmm, cow-people.

You can make paper from old jeans...

its not really propaganda, I just heard it.

And that site could be wrong

Fish are renewable!!!

Yes but between that site and your friend, I'm inclined to go with the site.

There's still the matter of harvesting the trees, grinding them up into pulp, making the pulp into paper towels, packaging the apper towels then shipping them to the stores.

Having worked as an usher, I say this: we clean up your piss, your vomit, your [trash], and your blood. Forgive us if we don't necessarily feel like adding "change the paper towels and take out one more bag of garbage" to that list.

In Soviet Russia, Fish renew YOU

If you harvest them correctly.

I've never vomited in a theater, bled in a theater, nor pissed outside of the bowl. So please excuse me if I still call you a "Lazy *******".

If the power comes from hydroelectric, nuclear power, etc, then it IS environmentally friendly. Unfortunately most power plants are still coal for some asinine reason.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]I've never vomited in a theater, bled in a theater, nor pissed outside of the bowl. So please excuse me if I still call you a "Lazy *******".[/QUOTE]

...have you ever actually worked at a job that required you to maintain and clean the building? Our schedule was literally theater -> quick-over of restrooms -> theater -> theater -> theater -> condiment stations -> quick over-view of restrooms -> repeat. Every little time-saver is helpful.

Damnit Martyn is drunk again.

Oh well. *cooks up more conspiracies*

Its the same bull**** about electric cars, electric mowers, and anythign advertised as "Environmentally friendly, because its electric". The raw energy has to come from somewhere. The electricity you use most likely comes from a source the is less environmentalyl friendly then just using gas to begin with.

The people that oppose the building of dams are the same hypocrits that promote the use of electricity over gas. Eco-frauds.

There aren't any more plausible dam sites in the US for hydro-electric power. They've all been dammed already.



1.) Hydro electric isn't exactly environmentally friendly. A valley is flooded to form a lake, so you impact that environment quite a bit. You get sediment build-up at the damn, which pervents nutrients from being carried down stream, adverse affecting the environment below the dam. Dams can prevent fish from reaching their upstream spawning pools, advesrsely affecting the fish population in the river. If those fish happen to be salmon, well, you get the picture.

2.) Coal is still used because it is the cheapest way to generate electricity in the United States, and the public likes cheap more than being environmentally friendly.

You mean the dam?

Yeah.

Kay. Glad we cleared that up.

[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]Damnit Martyn is drunk again.

Oh well. *cooks up more conspiracies*[/QUOTE]


DINGDINGDING WINNAAARRR!!

I was a bit drunkenated last night :0

it will be great when zero-point energy is able to be practically used. A zero point energy hand dryer would eliminate the waste of paper towels AND use theoretically infinite renewable energy.


With such technology available, a gravity gun could not be too far behind. :p