Now this is an interesting debate cause on first glance they seem almost identical. But the strange thing is I'm getting better performance out of Mozilla than I ever did out of Firefox... lets disscuse this for a while shall we?

Oh crap...

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Err, well, if your using a recent nightly (which have been sucking lately), then Mozilla would problably really be faster. Go with a recent milestone instead.


In the end, though, its all a matter of what you need. If you want an integrated mail client, et al, then go with the legacy suite. If all you need is a browser, then go with Firefox.

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:wq

I just use Internet Explorer.

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BTW, check www.squarefree.com/burningedge for recent nightly devs...

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.
:wq

Here it comes...

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.
:wq

We are strictly disscussing Mozilla products take Microsoft to another thread thanks... Mozilla's email client also reminded me alot of thunderbird... you think its a stripped down version or something?

*cough*

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I used to believe that we must fight the future, lest change come without our consent. I was wrong. The truth is that we must embrace the future, for only with change can we remain the same.
:wq

Guess that answers that.

I use firefox/thunderbird on all my machines here, Linux and Windows.

I love Debian.

apt-get install mozilla-firefox
apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird



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...I love Gentoo...

emerge mozilla-firefox
emerge evolution

ANYway:

I definatly prefere firefox. Not because it is faster or not, but because of it's philosiphy. Modular design just makes much more sense. This goes for firefox's plugins as well. Why would I use the Mozilla suite if I only need the browser? This way, I can use firefox for browsing, evolution for mail, bluefish for html, and x-chat for IRC. If there is one thing that a suite provides it is integration. Because all those programs are internal, they can more easily communicate. This is a bit more difficult with the modular approach. For example, 2 firefox plugins could conflict with eachother, or drag and drop could not work in some instances. This is where standards come in. Modular design that complies with standards is by far the best approach. This way, you only install what you need, and you can add and remove modules as you please. If standards are followed by these programs, then intra-program communication should work. A good example of this is the ROX filer and XMMS. If I drag a music file onto the XMMS playlist, it will add it. If I double click on a music file, it will play the file.

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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited May 19, 2004).]

Sorry I'm not trying to start anything, I just found out a couple days ago that firefox was in there.

How long does it usually take to compile the average program on your system in gentoo, I've always thought about trying that, because all the packages for debian are compiled for i386, and I think that is really a shame to miss out on all the improvements in CPUs by compiling for a freaking 386!!!

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Don't worry about optimizations... while it probobly may speed things up, I think it's mostly hype.

It doesn't take too long to compile, but it does take way longer than simple copying the files over.

Compilation can take anywhere between 5 minutes and 6 hours. Small programs written in C compile in a matter of minutes, but bloated programs in C++ can take hours. Your average program will take 10 to 30 minutes to compile.

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That's where you're wrong. There is quite a noticeable difference on my old computer (P3-750) between "packaged" KDE and a freshly compiled and optimized KDE. On a recent computer though, it probably wouldn't show too much. I haven't installed Gentoo on my new comp yet so ...

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Okey, I guess I was wrong. It's good to know that all that time compiling was towards a purpose. I never actually benchmarked it myself... I just didn't notice a major speed-up. Maybe that's because I am using a Pentium 4 2.6 GHz w/ 800 MHz FSB and 1 GB PC-3200 DDR 400 RAM.

The main reason I use Gentoo isn't optimization... it's mostly it's philosiphy. There is a user base that is second to none, with some extremly good documentation to go with it. More importantly, I like how there is never any bloat unless you install it yourself, and I feel like I have more control than any other distro.

Okey... I'll try and get back on topic...
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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited May 19, 2004).]