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Anyway...onto the topic.

I was thinking today (I know, wow!) and I realized, why the hell do professional sports players get paid millions of dollars and doctors don't? I mean doctors get paid alot, but it's nothing compared to professional sports players. Some doctors go to school for 8+ years to save lives and help sick people. Sports players don't even need an education, they just need to know how to play a game. Besides they have FUN doing their job, I haven't met many doctors that enjoy performing surgery. So basically it's people that work hard, learn all their life and save lives get paid less then people that are naturally good at a sport that they have fun playing? The world is a messed up place.

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Well basically, baseball players get watched by millions of people due to the media. They become famous thus they are paid money to continue their career. Also, ads, ads, ads!

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Well, not as many people watch doctors save lives, so I guess they should just quit now.

Sports players don't need that much money. If you are having fun playing a sport, why do you need so so so much money? I mean even 1 or 2 million a year is nuts. Your playing a sport...it isn't saving lives.

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Janitors -- Hardest work to do, least pay
Donald Trump -- Easiest Job in the world, billions of dollars

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Donald Trump is an asshat.

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Trump had to do some work the get there...
And this isnt true in all cases, but more times then none, you are a janitor:

A) Dont have a degree and never will

B) Do have a degree or working towards one, and just making the money in the mean time.

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Yes, Trump went through 8+ years of medical school

fishstickz said that not me. I am talking about pro sport players vs. doctors. If you don't agree you must be nuts! Doctors do so much, sports players just play a game they love and get paid $$$$$ for it.

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Welcome to the world!

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Nevermind , Trumps father was also a millionaire...SOMEONE HAD TO DO THE WORK. STOP CRYING THIS IS LIFE.

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Why does this have to be how life is? Why are you so accepting of it?

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First off, not all baseball players get paid millions, and if you look at the monor leagues, some guys are making the same as a janitor.

Second, some doctors do get paid millions if they are good at their job and are very specialized. Plus, most docoors are making a healthy six figure salary, so it's not like they are poor.

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The reason pro sports players get payed so much is that, back in the early days, rich and less-than-honest people used to bet large sums of money on the games, and then pay off one side (say, the pitcher or the goalie or something) to throw the game.

This became a major problem, to the point of threatening the whole establishment of professional sports because everyone knew the games were all fixed. So the leagues began raising players' salaries so that they wouldn't be as tempted to accept bribes. And of course, the salaries just kept rising.

It's not right, but at least there's a reason for it.

Btw, a better comparison would be between farmers and baseball players, rather than doctors. Baseball players are stinking rich for playing an unimportant game, and farmers can barely make ends meet even though they're the ones that keep everyone else alive.

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Here is some economics for you.

One of the resources in economics is known as "labor".

People sell their labor, and get paid based on what they have to offer.

Doctors require a lot of education because they are doing a job that is extremely complicated and hazardous if they dont know what they are doing. While they may be "more deserving" of the millions of dollars, not that many consumers are willing to pay for their services because they probably dont have a life threatening illness. His labor has a lot of demand, bot not nearly the amount of a baseball players.

A baseball player, on the other hand (I am talking about a superstar, franchise player here) can offer "labor" that attracts thousands to the baseball park and millions of television viewers. That's a lot of people paying to see this guy (or watching th commercials during the game, for which advertisers pay). Because they generate all this revenue, he is worth a lot, and baseball teams are willing to compete for his services, often offering him huge sums of money.

The economy is not a land of "fairness"... However if Donald Trump comes down with a cancer that only one or two doctors can cure, those doctors may hit the jackpot. "Yea I'll do it Trump, but its gonna cost you Taj Mahal."

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I'm afraid its not that simple. The owners of the clubs would not just one day up and say "allright, people are losing faith in the game, so lets outbid the bet riggers." They would have had to be raking in quite a profit already to be able to pay the players enough to keep them away from rigging it.

Also, how could they rig baseball? I mean yea, if they were bribing the managers, they could have a major impact on the game. But we're talking about the players... and the likelihood that one players at-bats could determine the whole game is unlikely. A pitcher, maybe... but if he plays poorly the manager could yank him. And if they were bribing the entire team, well that would just be expensive, and something would be bound to leak out and expose the whole thing with that many people in on it.

I'm just saying there is a lot more than bet rigging to do with it. Hell, even with the outrageous wages they get today there is still supicion of people throwing games for bets.

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because, sadly, it does completely nothing to do anything otherwise. at least not with this subject.



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Like avenger said, not all sports players are paid millions. You also have to consider the fact that after the age of 30 or so, your body goes sploot, you become slower and weaker until eventually you just can't compete with the younger players. A doctor, however, can keep on practicing for decades longer.

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Most elite sports stars make over ninety percent of their income from endorsements. Get a doctor to wear a Nike shirt and use a Nike scalpel in front of a billion people and maybe he'd make more money too.

It's basic supply and demand, supply meets demand at a price where both suplier and consumer are happy. For some athletes, that just happens to be at a very high price.

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Some of you obvious ly don't know about the 1919 World Series.

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Avenger: Ahh, the Black Sox, that's who it was. I knew about there being some sort of scandal with the Black Sox, and that there was a scandal with the fixing of games, but I hadn't realised they were one and the same.



You have a point there -- there was probably a whole bunch of factors that contributed (and still do contribute) to rising players' wages. Baseball's rising popularity would be a major one. It would seem to me that the game-fixing scandal was what started it all off, though.

Mind you, I know almost nothing about baseball history. This is all just the wild speculations of an introverted Canadian who only cared about baseball when the Jays won the Series twice in a row. Now those were good times...

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