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How do you pronounce "Graham"?
2005-08-12, 8:47 AM #41
Originally posted by Daft_Vader:
And you killed one, which is fortunately only half as bad. ;)


I have this sig for a reason.

:cool:
Sorry for the lousy German
2005-08-12, 8:48 AM #42
Understood.
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2005-08-12, 9:07 AM #43
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2005-08-12, 9:09 AM #44
Something tells me Detty might have edited the poll in his favor ever so slightly.
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2005-08-12, 10:11 AM #45
Quote:
View Poll Results: How Do You People SAY It??!!!


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2005-08-12, 11:16 AM #46
Det - so Americans and British say it differently. Give it up
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2005-08-12, 11:16 AM #47
[QUOTE=Spi Waterwing]If they are in dissagreement, you can use the plural form, ie "The team are having dissagreements." This works, because you mean "The team members are having disagreements."[/QUOTE]
Eh, I don't think so. I've always been told otherwise in all my classes. The use of have over has just sounds funny anyway. I might look it up if I actually cared.
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2005-08-12, 11:17 AM #48
It's wrong. Team is singular and teams is plural. If it was teams it would be right.
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2005-08-12, 11:44 AM #49
I aways said Gray-hem, but thats just me.
2005-08-12, 1:47 PM #50
That issue is one over sets.

The question is whether the set itself is doing the thing, or the members of the set doing the thing.

If it were Microsoft releasing a product, it would the set as a whole doing the thing. The individual Microsoft employees are not releasing their own products individually. It is them, together, as a whole, as the set, as 'Microsoft', releasing the product, so 'Microsoft' is treated as a single unit. Third person singular is appropriate. "Microsoft is releasing the product".

If, however, the members of the set are more significant, like Microsoft planning redundancies for Microsoft employees, then you may still use 'Microsoft' to describe the set, but it is more appropriate to use third person plural.
"Microsoft are considering redundancies".



"Oh, Americans and British speak different dialects, o well!!" isn't really an explanation or an excuse for anything. There is no 'authority' on language, there is no 'dialect police', language change is decided by the people that speak it (this process is decidedly quite complex, and is best described by Memetics). But as we've seen lots of times now, just because lots of people decide something, that doesn't make it a good idea.
Logic, however, exists indepedently of how many people agree with it. Set theory is a well-defined faucet of mathematics, so applying that to language is not difficult.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. " - Bertrand Russell
The Triumph of Stupidity in Mortals and Others 1931-1935
2005-08-12, 3:39 PM #51
New Zealand agrees with Britain in regards to the Gray-uhm issue.
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2005-08-12, 3:40 PM #52
Americans like removing whole sylabbles from words. :p

Mirror becomes "Meer"
Sqirrel becomes "Sqirl"
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2005-08-12, 4:09 PM #53
Stale "Gram" Graham crackers > nonstale
2005-08-12, 5:05 PM #54
Most people say "mirrer" and kind of slur it. "Meer" is stupid. "Mir-roar" is almost as stupid though. Same as "squir-rul". Ends up being akward if you don't slurr it a little, I think.
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2005-08-12, 5:15 PM #55
Its definately Gray-uhm.

Scottish/English origins, so we get to say how it is pronounced. Ta very much.
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2005-08-14, 9:39 AM #56
Originally posted by Ruthven:
ITS GRAY-UHM YOU IGNORANT AMERICAN TRAMPS!!!!

:mad:



I concur. I also hate when you lot pronounce Craig "Creg".
nope.
2005-08-15, 4:14 AM #57
Originally posted by Emon:
...You don't say "My family are going out of town this weekend"...


we do, also, using have is alright if you say the name of the company, afterall, it is a group of people that release it, not a single entity.
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