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How do you feel about insider trading?
2005-08-14, 11:18 PM #1
what would you do in this hypothetical situation?

Suppose you were doing business on a temporary basis with a publically-traded company, and you overhear an internal rumour about a new breakthrough that could generate money for the company (and therefore raise its stock) , but nothing definite to further confirm or refute the rumor. What do you do? Do you jump in while the stock is still cheap, buy up a few hundred shares (a relatively small trade, and likely to go unnoticed) , and wait for the stock to rise or do you pass on it?

Note: This is insider trading, and is illegal in most instances. I know for fact that it is illegal to trade a company if you have definite confirmed info about where the company is going before you trade, but I'm not sure if it is still illegal if you are basing your trade on an unconfirmed rumour that may or may not be true.

which brings me to a second point: How do you feel about this law in general? Do you think it is a good thing, or do you think it's stupid to have to ignore good information and a good opportunity and have to play the market like all the other clueless people out there that are basically gambling with their investments? Donald Trump has said that the Stock market is the biggest casino in the world, and I agree with him if the only legal way to trade is to buy a stock and hope it goes up. To me, that makes no sense.

Personally, I would make the trade if I could find some kind of loophole that would let me do it legally, otherwise I wouldn't do it. I also feel that insider trading in the way I described it should be legal b/c I am a firm believer in seizing opportunity and using everything that is available to you.. If you know for sure that a stock you own is going to go down, you should be able to sell without worrying about running afoul of the law.
2005-08-14, 11:21 PM #2
I never understood why insider trading was illegal. I say go for it.
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2005-08-14, 11:28 PM #3
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I never understood why insider trading was illegal. I say go for it.


Insider trading is illegal b/c it allegedly creates an unfair trading situation b/c you have information that other investors are not aware of. By making insider trading illegal, the SEC was hoping to level the playing field, so to speak. I think that this reasoning is bulls*** b/c people do not get to choose their opportunities. If opportunity knocks, you had better open the door and take advantage of it, especially if your own money hangs in the balance. Forcing an investor to take a loss (or forcing an investor to miss out on a potential gain) and ignore critical information about their investments hardly creates a fair market, don't you think? If people want a level playing field, they should go to communist China or Cuba.
2005-08-14, 11:37 PM #4
I agree. It seems so arbitrary. People who go to jail because of it.. that's just ridiculous IMO. They didn't do anything wrong.
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2005-08-14, 11:52 PM #5
If the gains outweight the risks, I'd do it. Like depending if anyone knows I overheard it or not.

I agree about this law being a little dumb. "Leveling out the playing field" when dealing with money does seem kinda on the communist side. Communist gambling.
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2005-08-15, 12:25 AM #6
Well depends. If its say a major company getting ready to face bankruptcy or declare it, I would say thats wrong to pull out (even though you want your $).

As far as that, what if Microsoft or Sony were to hint at something new, and you put stock in the company before it was announced officially? It happens, SEC needs to get over it. If it's unfair, tough luck. That's the way the all rolls sometimes. I'd definately do it if there was some great new thing coming out.
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2005-08-15, 5:09 AM #7
I'm pretty sure it's only illegal when you pull all of your stock out before the company goes belly up without telling any of the other share holders that you have inside information that that is about to occur.

What you're describing is the complete opposite of that...
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2005-08-15, 5:47 AM #8
Personally I find no problem with it. If you are in a position to get inside info on companies, you should be able to use that to your advantage. And how is it even enforced?
2005-08-15, 6:38 AM #9
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I agree. It seems so arbitrary. People who go to jail because of it.. that's just ridiculous IMO. They didn't do anything wrong.


Agreed.
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2005-08-15, 6:43 AM #10
Any trading done based on information not freely available to the public is technically 'insider trading', Bevvil.

The main problem with anti-insider trading laws is that they are almost impossible to enforce and usually pretty easy to avoid, Duke.
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