I am seriously thinking about signing up for a real, dedicated server for myself. Obviously, this costs quite a bit of cash, so I was going to host some other sites on top of my own. The question then becomes, how many would be interested in this:

UPDATED!

1GB space
20GB bandwith
Unlimited email addresses
Unlimited Subdomains
Unlimited PostgreSQL databases
Unlimited FTP accounts
PHP, PostgreSQL, MySQL, Perl, CGI and Apache on a Linux server
Cpanel control panel (hella easy to use for you all)
SSH access (jailshell account, not root)
Possible Frontpage extensions

All for $5 USD a month (:p on FGR).

I am willing to compromise with these also, so give me your opinion, and if you'd be interested.

Where you buying from?

Serverbeach.

That beats the HELL out of my current deal [Sorry Nap] so I'm definetly on board if you decide to do it. Paypal, I assume?

Yes, Paypal will be used. I can answer more questions when I get home from college.

Add in Perl and I'm there! :p (not really, but still add in Perl)

I remember the serverbeach commercials on TechTV. They seemed so lame. And like hypocrites.

/fgr

Using a professional hosting company ensures you have support, not just raw resources. I'd hate to have to wait a week for you to get around to fixing a problem.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]I remember the serverbeach commercials on TechTV. They seemed so lame. And like hypocrites.

/fgr[/QUOTE]

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i might be interested

All hail CoolMatty, hoster of my site for over a year!

I would most definately be interested, even if you are futureposting me.

If you wish to have "managed" servers, they cost QUITE A BIT more.

I'm not looking to make a serious business out of this, just something to help cover the cost of the server.

On top of that, I promise it will not take 7 days for me to fix an issue. And even if it does, I'll give full refunds, I have no qualms with that. (And serverbeach does offer a "ticketing" system, wherein if something goes wrong, you can buy a ticket to have them try and fix the issue. It's a heck of a lot better than most dedicated server companies offer)

Finally, at $5 a month, you shouldn't really expect a perfect record :p


And SMOCK: It'll have Perl. Definatly will have Perl.

Edit: Hopefully fixes the stupid futureposting.

Plesk? Ugh!
Too many bad memories.

Though I've only worked with client side.

In all reality, none of the control panel software programs are great.

But I can set you up with direct SSH access for your account, if you wish.

Just let me know what you all would like to see, I'd be happy to work with ya.

I've come to like SysCP. It's fast, it's free and best of all, you actually know what it does.
I had to work with Confixx. That was hell. It took hold of the whole system without telling you and sometimes randomly changed settings.

And no, thank you, I don't need webspace. If I ever don't suck terribly at designing a website I can ask my boss (or don't ask him :cool:) and set up my space on our server.

SysCP, while decent for what it does, isn't nearly powerful enough for the average non-techie customer. Thanks for the thought, though

Well that sounds like a pretty good deal.

I'll take one. Or two.

PostgreSQL?

lol,dont smack me, i know nothing but will it support MySQL? (don't know much but i know I'll need it)


If it does, I'd take one.

[Edit : I'd definiatly take one if you guarantee that you'll be hosting at least for a year]

Jepman: If everyone who says they will sign up actually does sign up, it'll definately be around for at least a year. If you wish, you can wait until I get everyone else signed up for it, and then I can tell you for sure that it'll be staying.

EDIT!!!!!

I am now offering PostgreSQL AND MySQL, so no issues here!

CM: hey, i am quite the stupid head, and I don't know what this will mean. Right now I am taking up your current space on sorrowind, and if this means I could get "www.whateveriwant.com" then sign me up.. $5 sounds like a good deal

That requires a domain name, which costs about $7 a year. (A domain name is your [url]www.whateveryouwant.com[/url])

I am not canceling anyone's current free hosting, although I will not be offering more. Anyone who wishes their accounts to be "beefed up" so to speak, will need to shell out cash. And anyone who wants a domain name, like Spiral, will also need to pay.

Keep in mind, for those of you currently hosted under me, you only get this:

50-100MB space
1GB bandwith (negotiable, but nowhere near 20GB)
1-5 email addresses, under the sorrowind.net name

And finally, a domain name IS NOT required for hosting. Those who wish to save as much cash as possible may use http://sitename.sorrowind.net as their website's URL.

In addition, I am willing to run certain game servers, including CS:S, HL2, and other games. (Just about anything that has a Linux dedicated server program, so no JK hosting, sorry)

The price depends on the game and the number of players, so contact me once the server is up for pricing on that. (Obviously, a CS:S server will cost more than CS, since it's much more server intensive. Also, 32players will use up much more bandwith than a 16 player server.)

Oh hell, I'm tired of starting paragraphs with "in addition", so here:

Other things I am allowing:

1. Certain additional programs, such as torrents. (HEAVILY monitored, I am the only one that will set up the torrents, so no illegal files, etc)
2. Negotiations on bandwith and filesize. $1 per 5GB bandwith, $1 per GB space.

Other changes:

1. Overage charges: While I perfer to have "cutoff" measurements, wherein you reach a limit, and you cannot do anymore, I will do overages also if you wish. $1 per GB, $1 per 250MB space. Just try not to do it anyway :p
2. Cpanel instead of PLESK. (This allows me to have Postgre and MySQL in the system. I will change the posts above to point this out)
3. SSH "jailshell" access for all users instead of on request.

PLEASE use Cpanel. I'd be even happier if you used CPanel, because I know that like the back of my hand.

I'm DEFINETLY willing to do this. Especially with the cheap expansions. I may expand if my site gets enough action, and expanding a dollar at a time makes me happy.

JediKirby

Well, I think I have a decent enough response, so tomorrow I will be ordering the server. I'll let ya all know how it goes and when you can expect to buy (Should be in the next day or so).

I have to finish out the month with my current provider, tell him I love him and such, and then I'll talk to you about transferring all of my domains over, as well as setting up the paypal. I can't wait to do business with you.

I just love how much random people know about obscure stuff like this. You guys rock.

Really.

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]I am seriously thinking about signing up for a real, dedicated server for myself. Obviously, this costs quite a bit of cash, so I was going to host some other sites on top of my own. The question then becomes, how many would be interested in this:

UPDATED!

1GB space
20GB bandwith
Unlimited email addresses
Unlimited Subdomains
Unlimited PostgreSQL databases
Unlimited FTP accounts
PHP, PostgreSQL, MySQL, Perl, CGI and Apache on a Linux server
Cpanel control panel (hella easy to use for you all)
SSH access (jailshell account, not root)
Possible Frontpage extensions

All for $5 USD a month (:p on FGR).

I am willing to compromise with these also, so give me your opinion, and if you'd be interested.[/QUOTE]


Sounds hella good to me.


If anything comes through, let me know, I'd be willing to take you up on it.

Kirby also brought up a good point.

Since this may seem slightly shady, I am gonna do this on an end-of-term basis.

You do not pay for anything until the end of the month, so you are assured decent service before you pay a dime.

Not to rain on your parade, but Powweb ([url]www.powweb.com[/url]) offers;

5 gigs space
300 gigs transfers
and all that other stuff for...

$7.77 per month.

I've been using them for the past 4 years for several sites. They friggin rock.

Right, but a couple of things:

1. CM is a cool Massassian, even if he makes fun of my thinking speed (1-2 WPM my left foot), and Massassi's a family.

2. Is Powweb offering all of the services that CM is? PHP, Perl, MySQL, PostgreSQL, CGI etc?

Things I offer that they don't:

A. Unlimited MySQL, Email, and FTP.
B. They only allow 10GB a day, which can be easy to break if you are getting 300gb a month.
C. You cannot go month-to-month. You must buy at least 3 months worth of hosting. In addition, in order to get that $7.77 deal, you'd have to pay a $30 setup fee, which makes the actual price $17.77 per month.
D. They require you to have a domain name.
E. They run the CGI version of PHP (which sucks majorly)
F. They charge fees for multiple domains on one site.
G. They disable websites that use more than 10% processor usage for 60 seconds. I am much more leniant on this, depending on the cause.
H. There is a 3 user limit per DB.
I. They say they backup files, but they force you to pay $100 to have your files restored.
J. They advertise an "average" 99.9% uptime. Which means while your actual server might be down for 5 days, the rest of the servers are still up, so it averages out.
K. There is a $25 cancelation fee if you cancel with them after the inital 30 days.
L. 30 day money back does not include setup fees.
M. They do NOT allow you to run other software on the server.
N. There is a "file count" limit also, 30,720 files. EDIT: I finally found it in their forum.
O. They do not offer PostgreSQL on top of MySQL.
P. They use their own "control panel" software (up to you to determine if that's a bad thing or not)
Q. NO SSH access on their servers.
R. They say they are "top rated", but I've yet to see a link to any such review. Self-proclaimed, maybe?
S. They only give FULL ACCESS ftp accounts. So don't be passing those out to your friends.
T. If you travel to their forums, you'll see a lot of users complaining about downtime. Fun fun.
U. 100MB space limit for email

Oh, and for the record, they achieve these crazy high offerings through "overselling", which means that they are betting on the fact you will not use all the resources you are buying. While this may not seem like a big deal to you, it does give me comfort as a hosting provider. Because I can guarantee that you can use all 20GB of bandwith and 1GB space every single month, and I won't have to sweat a drop. I've done the math, and there will only be a maximum of 40 accounts on this server (even less than that if processor usage gets too high), and that 40 accounts is nowhere near my maximum for the server.

That's what I saw after going through their policy and offerings. Of course, it still stands to reason that they do offer more space and bandwith, but hey, it's your choice.

i don't like powweb. i've never used them but at $7.77/month you know there's a hitch that costs more money or restricts what you want to do.

with what i see you have there CM, i'm in. can i pay for the full year in advance (i'm not looking for a discount)? i don't have a domain name to put there yet but do i get an IP address or something to access the space?

Count me in.

[QUOTE=Darth Evad]i don't like powweb. i've never used them but at $7.77/month you know there's a hitch that costs more money or restricts what you want to do.

with what i see you have there CM, i'm in. can i pay for the full year in advance (i'm not looking for a discount)? i don't have a domain name to put there yet but do i get an IP address or something to access the space?[/QUOTE]

If you want to pay a full year advance, I can do that. If it comes to a point where I don't stay up for the full year, I'll refund the remaining cash.

As for having no domain name:

You won't get a seperate IP address, but you will get a subdomain under my website. (Like http://dave.sorrowind.net)

Seperate IP addresses are costly (moreso than domain names), and a pain to get, due to ARIN regulations on IP address usage. (You must justify the reason for each IP)

Okay, here is a status update on the server:

The server has been ordered, and should be available (hopefully) today, or (more likely) tomorrow.

As soon as the server is up, I'll be moving all the content from the current server (So all you free-hosting leeches may experience downtime, do not use FTP or email if at all possible during the next day or so. In addition, I would recommend any forums be disabled until the databases are transferred, so posts and new users do not "disappear").

After the current users are squared away, I will begin taking orders through a special-made Paypal window. I will be asking for everyone's email address at that time, via PMs here, for those who showed interest.

FYI... the $30 startup fee only applies if you buy the 3 month package. If you buy a year there is no startup fee. So basically it costs a whole whooping $93.24 for one year of service, and they throw 2 free months in on top of that.
As for uptime, like I said, I've used them for several years and it's been pretty much problem free. They fix problems pretty fast. Sure, there are a few limitations on what you can run, but you still get a lot for the money. I mostly use 'em for file hosting anyway.

Anydangway... just thought I'd throw another option out there. That's pretty cool of you to offer the services you are for such a cheap price. Hope it works out

...
Holy crap, these people are aching for hosting. I've got some HD/BW I could let go really cheap (think $2.50/month), but then again no one trusts me. Guess I'll just find somewhere else.

For anyone who was interested and did not receive a forum PM from me, please PM me with your contact info. I perfer AIM/IRC, but Email will work also.

For the rest of you who just have nothing better to do then to read this thread, here's the status update:


All currently hosted folk, like NeS and Overlord, should have no issues left, everything should be working 100%.

In addition, the Image Corner will be seeing some upgrades also (on top the already faster download speeds).