I don't what the hell is wrong with it now but from this day forward I will only use it if Linux can't do it.

I did this once before but kept re-booting into Windows to use a preferred app or w/e and just ended up always booting into Windows after awhile.
Well, those days are over. As far as I can tell I'll only need Windows for gaming and doing anything in Macromedia's software.
Everything and anything else can be done from here.

and btw, anytime GBK posts his one word reply links to a Windows alternative, just assume that I've ditto'ed him in the next post.


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Might I direct your attention to WineX and Crossover Office? Let there be no reasons to use Windows, ever again.

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Fight the future.

Sorry to see you go, Evad. Microsoft needs all the support it can get.

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"When all else fails, eat pie."
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Since when?

...Ugh. Well, that was a failed attempt at humour, wasn't it? Perhaps I'll just stick to being a jerk than, shall I?

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"When all else fails, eat pie."
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It seems to work better for you, yeah.

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right-o.

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oh yeh wlel i jsut gots finesht wiht my morrwoind mod for teh JO An it takes up teh 900 gigabiets of spaec but i wlil not sowh yuo gyz teh scrnshoots becasue we dunat kare wut u gyz tihnk ne1 no wear i kan get ti hostad 4 dounlowd!!!!11!111 --Checksum

Not sure if this is quoted correctly (heard it from a friend in a noisy room)...but I wanted to include it for entertainment.

Gates would be so ticked, but who cares!
Windows takes 10 frigging minutes to boot on my computer (Win2000)! Compared to my 60 second startup on my old comp with Win95. I didn't mention how long it takes many of Microsoft's software programs to start up in Windows.

And yeah, since when does Microsoft need support? Gates is already the richest man in the world!!! Share the wealth!!!

I have a feeling this was COMPLETELY off the subject, but I mentioned Microsoft Windows numerous times.

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I was bored... Anyone up for some UT?


(Thats running under Suse 8.2's stock WIne, BTW...)

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GBK: I gots some questions for you about Linux...

1. I got dual monitors, running on an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. Mandrake detects it as 2 seperate cards, as it should, but mandrake refuses to do anything more than clone the screens. I'd like to run them seperately as 2 desktops, like Windows lets you do.

2. WineX... has game support improved ANY since like, 3 months ago? Because 3 months ago I still couldn't play JK, although I did manage to get JED working.

3. Should I get a different distro? I have Mandrake installed right now, and it is 'ok'. It's not as stable as I'd like, and really seems to hate my ethernet devices. It refuses to configure them correctly. It will connect to the internet, but then again, it won't let me browse the net. (It'll do Mandrake Update for example, but mozilla won't do squat.) I've done the automatic config already, but it doesn't like me for some reason. I have also used Slackware, but it didn't install some programs that I really wanted, such as Xine. I was forced to do it myself, which became a pain in the *** due to its inability to use RPMs, and lack of dependencies. How I ever got WineX on there blows my mind. I have to give credit to Mandrake, it detected my sound card and printer without any trouble. If only I could fix my display.
Anyway, I really want a distro that comes with Wine (Or even better, WineX, but I doubt that) and Xine/codecs.

4. That ethernet problem: Any way of fixing it? BTW: I have 2 eth devices, a 10MBPS card for cable internet, and 100mbps lan ethernet, which needs to share the internet connection to a windows PC. I also would REALLY, REALLY like it to be able to share the NTFS formatted drive over that network. (Even if it is read-only, I just want it viewable on the windows machine) And being able to see windows computer shared drives would be nice too. :/

I don't know a ton about linux yet, as is shown, but if you tell me what to do, I can probably get it done.

Yea, this might be considered thread hijacking, but oh well

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I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...

Youll problably have to manuallt tweek the xf86config file to get it right under Mandrake.

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I have no idea. I only installed WineX once, about a year ago. It didnt seem to be any more advanced than Wine to me, but I really didnt push it very hard.

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Suse 8.2 shipped with Wine, and I assume 9.0 does to. Actully, I read somewhere of a deal between Transgaming and Suse to package WineX with 9.0, but I have yet to see it.

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Thats not something I hvae much expericance with . . . Suse does a bloody good job of managing NICs. But the internet forewarding is a routing issue, for which there is more than a plethora of documentation available. Just google for it.

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If you an mount it, you can share it. Thats what Samba is for.

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*cough*Samba*cough*

Theres two parts to Samba, the client and the server. You can use one or the other, or both. I use Samba on my network to share files because, frankly, NFS sucks noodles.

To share your NTFS volume, youll need to set up the server. If Samba is installed, the config file is problably located in /etc/samba/smb.conf. SU to root and add the following code to it.



Change "/mnt/hdb1" to whereever your NTFS drive is mounted...
Near the top of the config file should be a line "security = something". Change it to "security = SHARE".
Go to /etc/init.d and run "./smb start" and "./nmb start". Your NTFS should then appear on your Windows network.

To mount a network share, try something along the following...

mount -t smbfs //somecomputer/someshare -o user=YourLinuxUserName -o gid=YourLinuxUserGroup -o fmask=777 dmask=777 /mnt/YourMountName

..Change the obvious to whatever suits your system. When run, if it works, it should prompt for a username and password. Then itll mount the share as any other drive.

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Well,I'll stick to Windows XP since I really don't have a practical use for anything else. But I might have to learn a bit of Linux for my Network Administration Degree.

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Prowling out of the tundra, swinging a jeweled meat hammer, cometh Outlaw Torn! And he gives a gutteral bellow:

"I'm seriously going to hump you until you scream like a banshee!"

I'll just use WinXP until things 'smooth out'.

Example- to install UT2k3, I had to copy the 3 disks to the hard drive, search google for the console commands to remount the disk drives to where I copied the files. Then I had to delete the files but Mandrake wouldn't let me. Again a console comand to delete the files. Then I had to edit the XF86 with emacs.

Why the **** would I want to go through all that to get a game running that would perform just as well under windows?

Edit: I also had to kill the graphic server to fool with the XF86 config file too...
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[This message has been edited by Mystic0 (edited December 18, 2003).]

I'll be impressed when . . .

1) You can play UT (or any other game for that matter) at the same framerate you would get in Windows with the same hardware, and
2) When you can play a game.. besides UT without any large unnecessary hassle.

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Freelancer

The framerate was slower than I get in Windows, true, because I was using software rendering. With DirectX through WineX the framerate could get alot higher.



All I did was put in the CD, doubleclick the "CD" link on the desktop, doubleclick on "Setup.exe", and it installed. No errors, no troubles. After it was done, it launched the game, no errors, no troubles.


I can do the same for most games. I installed JK too, no troubles, but it wont run without DirectX. If I had WineX installed....

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Fight the future.

By using DirectX instead of OpenGL, aren't you technically living a double-standard? With your whole anti-MS sentiment and open source sentiment?

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

Thats just it, Im not using DirectX... And even if I were using WineX, it still isnt DirectX, but an Open Source implimentation of the DirectX DLLs.


In short, STFU, you MS-lover.

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Would an "open souce implementation of the DirectX DLLs" even exist if it wasn't for MS in the first place? I mean, all it is is a complete ripoff of Microsoft's work, only from scratch, right?

I mean, which is easier, shoving the cartridge in the SNES and playing away, or downloading a ROM, trying to set up your emulator so it'll play the darn thing, and then play the game without many of the features it was originally intended to have?

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Freelancer

Erm, why don't you just use the Linux binaries to play UT? It's a hell of a lot faster than using Wine.

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If it weren't for Microsoft, OpenGL and OpenAL would be a lot further along than they are today. DirectX would be superfluous.



I'm not sure about other systems, but apart from the Gamecube all Nintendo consoles are pretty much perfectly emulated at this point. Plus they play the games with much improved sound and graphics.

I'll take quality over time efficiency any day.

Wine and Xine are both included in Mandrake 9.1. Go into the Madrake Control Center, into the software management section. From here you can install software pakages (RPMS). Just search Wine and Xine up at the top of the window and you'll find everything you need

Er, I did.

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Uh-oh, now Microsoft really isn't going to give you a job, Evad.

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