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The New SAT?
2005-09-21, 4:55 PM #1
I'm a High School Junior this year, and I am currently taking a PSAT/SAT prep course. The new SAT is quite different from the old one, with the whole new Writing Section (in particular the essay), now being scored out of 2400.

I was just wondering if any previous test takers would post their scores, how it affected their entrance into college, and general tips or personal adice for taking the test. I'll say more myself if people show an interest! :)
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2005-09-21, 4:59 PM #2
I got like... 1350? Or was it 1450? Anyways it was on the old sats. I could have pretty much gone anywhere, methinks. Unless I wanted one of the pickier Universities, dunno how that would've gone.

2005-09-21, 5:04 PM #3
..why is it that everyone and their cat always gets a 1400 on the SATs and a 32 on the ACT? I mean, when you consider that the average is like 900 and 21... either a lot of people are embellishing, or the ones that score well feel the need to plaster it all over the place, or something..
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2005-09-21, 5:05 PM #4
I got a 2250 on the last one I took.

The writing really isn't that bad.

I'm not in college yet. (senior).
2005-09-21, 5:08 PM #5
I took the SAT about 4 years ago....I think I recall getting a 1350.
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2005-09-21, 5:11 PM #6
I took the PSAT last year and got a 2060. Hopefully I can match or improve upon that when I take the real SAT this year.
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2005-09-21, 5:42 PM #7
I took the original SAT in November '03; I scored 1560 (780 math/ 780 verbal). It was pretty much pointless for me though, because I was planning to go to school in Canada anyways.

Never took the SAT II or ACTs
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2005-09-21, 5:42 PM #8
Originally posted by Freelancer:
..why is it that everyone and their cat always gets a 1400 on the SATs and a 32 on the ACT? I mean, when you consider that the average is like 900 and 21... either a lot of people are embellishing, or the ones that score well feel the need to plaster it all over the place, or something..


It's definitely that the ones who score high brag about it until nobody will listen anymore and then some. A guy that I know at my school got a 34 and he went on and on about it for months.

I got a 28, meh. Good enough for me. I never took the SAT, though, because most of the colleges around here mainly consider the ACT scores.
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2005-09-21, 5:45 PM #9
I never took the ACT. I don't brag about my SAT score, despite the fact that it's pretty good... I don't even tell people when they ask me, usually.
2005-09-21, 7:06 PM #10
I got a 34 on my ACT, but I never told anyone who didn't ask. Then I stopped telling people who did ask, because then they would always ask "Are you really smart?" or even "Are you a genius?" to which there is no good answer. Now I just mention it online whenever threads like these get posted so my ego doesn't die from neglect.

Daft: I got a 218 on the PSAT and 1430 on the (old) SAT. I got to be a National Merit Semifinalist and got into one of top five computer science departments in the country because of my standardized test scores. And promptly failed out. To do like I did, don't study, don't try, and imbibe caffeinated drinks. Prep classes are cheating. Practicing is cheating. Asking for advice is cheating.

Seriously, a work ethic and studying a couple hours everyday, even though you don't need to, will serve you much better than a high SAT score.
2005-09-21, 7:20 PM #11
Hey I'm in the same boat as you Daft
And I dunno cuz my practice tests fluctuate DRAMATICALLY (varying from 200-300 points)
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2005-09-22, 11:00 AM #12
hmm?
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2005-09-22, 11:19 AM #13
Yeah, I took the old SAT....I never tell people my score unless they ask except for right now because I'm going to re-make a point. I got a 33 on the ACT and a 1420 on the SAT, which is pretty good...but I'm having a bit of trouble at college. Work ethic and studying and such will serve you MUCH better than having a high SAT or ACT score. They're basically meaningless.
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2005-09-22, 12:15 PM #14
Originally posted by Achelois:
It's definitely that the ones who score high brag about it until nobody will listen anymore and then some. A guy that I know at my school got a 34 and he went on and on about it for months.




I got a 34 on the ACT :o
I also never tell people unless they ask, though..


2240 on the new SAT.
2005-09-22, 12:17 PM #15
I never took it.
2005-09-22, 12:18 PM #16
I think I got an 1140 or something on the SAT and a 26 on the ACT. If I want people to know I'm smart, I'll prove it to them with real world examples, not some stupid test score.
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2005-09-22, 1:06 PM #17
Originally posted by Emon:
I think I got an 1140 or something on the SAT and a 26 on the ACT. If I want people to know I'm smart, I'll prove it to them with real world examples, not some stupid test score.


That's God damn right.
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2005-09-22, 1:17 PM #18
haha, im going to art school.
2005-09-22, 1:34 PM #19
I got a 1310 (old) and it definitely helped me get into college since my grades aren't what they could be

and you don't hear about the people who scored 900's and such because a lot of them don't actually like talking about it and stuff

my brother got a 1390 the first time he took it *grumbles*
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2005-09-22, 3:29 PM #20
Originally posted by TimeWolfOfThePast:
That's God damn right.

The best is when you're talking to some snobby computer science student who got a 1500 on the SATs and thinks he is a god of the programming world. Then you smite him with your real world experience.
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2005-09-22, 3:33 PM #21
Originally posted by Warlord:
I got a 34 on the ACT :o
I also never tell people unless they ask, though..


2240 on the new SAT.



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2005-09-22, 3:38 PM #22
Originally posted by Emon:
I think I got an 1140 or something on the SAT and a 26 on the ACT. If I want people to know I'm smart, I'll prove it to them with real world examples, not some stupid test score.

You damn well better prove it by real world examples; I got a 1250 when I took it back in 7th grade for JHU-CTY summer camp.
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2005-09-22, 3:45 PM #23
I can't even remember my scores. I just know my ACT english and math were high enough for me to take upper division courses. Good, but not spectacular. Probably the reason I didn't do better than I did is because I didn't give a ****(which seems to be a prevalent theme in my life....).
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2005-09-22, 6:57 PM #24
FancyMan: Being good at standardized tests is no different than being good at crossword puzzles, and no more significant.

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2005-09-22, 6:59 PM #25
Originally posted by Freelancer:
..why is it that everyone and their cat always gets a 1400 on the SATs and a 32 on the ACT? I mean, when you consider that the average is like 900 and 21... either a lot of people are embellishing, or the ones that score well feel the need to plaster it all over the place, or something..


One thing, the people on this site are generally smarter than average.

Perhaps more to the point, people who score badly aren't likely to want to tell people their scores.
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2005-09-22, 7:11 PM #26
Originally posted by FancyMan:
You damn well better prove it by real world examples; I got a 1250 when I took it back in 7th grade for JHU-CTY summer camp.


...shhh.
2005-09-22, 7:37 PM #27
[QUOTE=Michael MacFarlane]One thing, the people on this site are generally smarter than average.

Perhaps more to the point, people who score badly aren't likely to want to tell people their scores.[/QUOTE]

I'll rot in hell before I tell you my score, good or not.
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2005-09-22, 7:43 PM #28
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I'll rot in hell before I tell you my score, good or not.

It's okay, 800 is a good score no matter who says it's not.


Oh, and okay Ictus. You're right about crosswords being useless. I guess we never needed to crack the Engima cypher. Who really woulda cared if all of those men on submarines in WW2 got their asses blown up by bombers?
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2005-09-22, 7:52 PM #29
Nice try.
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2005-09-22, 7:55 PM #30
I'm thinking, maybe a 32 on the ACT and 1350 on the old SATs? I honestly don't remember.

I'm doing computer science though now, and doing well enough for my needs. something like a 3.289 GPA.
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2005-09-22, 8:05 PM #31
I figure since everyone's posting their high SAT and ACT scores I'll post my 850 SAT and 20 ACT. Ah...the joys of high school. :gbk: Oh, and just since I did back it up and I'm doing more than fine in college...the SAT and/or the ACT do not really reflect how you're going to do. ....okay, I'm done defending myself.
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2005-09-22, 8:42 PM #32
I got 1460 on the old SATs. I think it's really lame that they took analogies out. That was the only thing that actually showed if someone smart.
2005-09-22, 8:44 PM #33
Uhh.... no... it shows whether they're good at analogies.
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2005-09-22, 8:48 PM #34
It is somewhat unfair for a person from a different country to do the analogies in the SAT. He/she could study English grammar, vocabulary and math, but how could he/she study analogies? I think that was the issue over that part.
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2005-09-22, 8:49 PM #35
It shows whether or not someone can reason and come to conclusions on their own. The vocab and math on the SAT do not do that.
2005-09-22, 8:58 PM #36
I would say the best way to prepare for the SAT is to take as many practice tests as you can. Getting familiar with the test will help you complete problems faster and make fewer mistakes (the accidental kind, as opposed to just not knowing the answer).

Take tests that are actually like the real thing, though. Some books and online places have practice tests that they just sort of make up...I have found these do not accurately reflect the test or its difficulty level. Best bet is something made up from old problems, or even better old released tests. I can't imagine that the new SAT has made any significant changes to the Math or Verbal sections...you have to keep in mind, these problems take a while to get into circulation, and every test they make is supposed to have an average score of 600 per section, with a standard deviation of 100 (So how could it have gotten much harder?).

When you are taking the Math section of the test, don't spend too much time on any one problem. This will kill you, because if you run out of time you could end up leaving several of the last problems blank. Best way to handle this is to take a bunch of practice tests so you get your pace down. Also, look out for math problems that look harder than they really are. Keep in mind the level of math this test is based off of; if you see something that looks like it doesn't belong, you are probably making more of it than you should.

For the verbal section, I'd recommend getting a list of the most common words to appear on it (if you can find that). Figure out what they all mean, and as you come across words you don't know on practice tests, write them down with a definition. A lot of these words *will* show up again.

I don't know about the writing section. If it's an essay, I really don't know. But, if it's like the writing section on the PSAT, then the best way to study for this is to pay particular attention to what patterns they base their answers off of (using any good practice problems you can find). I found that you could end up with two answers that were correct, but they will be looking for a particular style (it's a bit subjective).

Anyway, to sum it all up, best approach is to take several practice exams. For the Math section, it's most important to keep a good pace and not make the problems harder than they really are. For Verbal, memorize the words you come across that you don't know. And for Writing, if it's like the PSAT writing, studying the patterns they use to pick a correct answer is important.

Your score can vary a lot depending on the test...some of them might just have a bunch of stuff you've never seen before...but there's not much you can do about that, other than not worry about it :P

As for what your scores will do for you...

If you're taking the PSAT, getting National Merit Semifinalist will look pretty good on your resume. Something like over a 190 usually gets you that. National Merit Finalist is great, I got this with a 218, and colleges (maybe not the ones you want) will send you offers for some pretty huge scholarships. The cutoff for this varies from state to state. I got some great offers as a result, but I couldn't take any of them...Check with the colleges you apply to, they just might have a scholarship available for getting either Semifinalist or Finalist.

For the SAT, at least in Texas, it will have no affect upon your getting into a public university, unless you are not in the top whatever percent it is of your high school class. In that case, your SAT will be a major factor in getting in, but being in the top something percent is more important, since it is mandated that public universities must accept you first, and others might get stuck on a waiting list even if they have high enough scores (in Texas, anyway). Private schools are not bound by this, and it matters more there. The really picky schools may want you to take the SAT II tests...Don't know why, as they could care less what knowledge you have in any subjects; they will often force you to retake anything you already have credit for (by AP, transfer, or whatever else) in order to suck as much money out of you as possible. Not ALL of them do this, but the majority seem to.

A high SAT score will help you out with scholarships, obviously...I don't know how much community service really counts for, but it isn't everything, that's for sure. I got a 1570 when I took the SAT, and that played a big part in getting me my scholarship. For a public school you don't need anything that high to get scholarships usually (a 1200 would be good enough here); they thought I was crazy for going to their school with a score like that. But cost is important, and I can't afford a private school education by a long shot. What I found was that private schools, while costing a lot, offer almost nothing in terms of scholarships. It's just not worth paying all that money to get an undergraduate degree, especially since they would basically make me retake ~60 hours that I already had credit for (it is worth checking the school's AP and transfer policy if that applies to you).

I don't know what your SAT scores will predict about you...but if you score low enough, or high enough, it will definitely change what options are available to you. You're a junior, so if you mess up, you can take the SAT again before you start applying...but it's a good feeling to get it done right and out of the way early.
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2005-09-22, 9:01 PM #37
I didn't know they had removed the analogies...I think the problem with analogies on the SAT (and GRE, and other tests like it) is that they aren't really based so much off of reasoning as they are on knowledge of obscure words. That made the verbal section pretty unpredictable, because you were at the mercy of a few words you probably won't hear again for the rest of your life. The reasoning behind the words, if you knew what they meant, was often pretty basic.
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2005-09-22, 9:06 PM #38
Originally posted by FancyMan:
You damn well better prove it by real world examples; I got a 1250 when I took it back in 7th grade for JHU-CTY summer camp.

So you're saying that because you scored higher than me, you're smarter than me? Wow...I wasn't suggesting I was smarter than you or anyone else, I was just proving a point.
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2005-09-22, 11:51 PM #39
I completely agree with Sige. I didn't do very well on the analogies part because a lot of the words were unknown to me. If they had something more analogous to mathematical reasoning I've would have aced that part.
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