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Everything is porn in America now!
2005-10-14, 5:24 PM #1
Tucked deep inside a massive bill designed to track sex offenders and prevent children from being victimized by sex crimes is language that could put many Hollywood movies in the same category as hard-core, X-rated films.

The provision added to the Children’s Safety Act of 2005 would require any film, TV show or digital image that contains a sex scene to come under the same government filing requirements that adult films must meet.

Currently, any filmed sexual activity requires an affidavit that lists the names and ages of the actors who engage in the act. The film is required to have a video label that claims compliance with the law and lists where the custodian of the records can be found. The record-keeping requirement is known as Section 2257, for its citation in federal law. Violators could spend five years in jail.

Under the provision inserted into the Children’s Safety Act, the definition of sexual activity is expanded to include simulated sex acts like those that appear in many movies and TV shows.

The provision, written by Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., could have ramifications beyond simply requiring someone to ensure that the names and ages of actors who partake in pretend lovemaking as compliance with Section 2257 in effect defines a movie or TV show as a pornographic work under federal law. Industry sources say the provision was included in the bill at the behest of the Justice Department.

Industry officials contend that the way the provision is written, a sex scene could trigger the provision even if the actors were clothed. While the language is designed to capture “lascivious exhibition of the genitals,” other legal decisions have said that “lascivious exhibition” could occur when the genitals are covered.

The bill, with the Section 2257 provision included, already has been approved by the U.S. House of Representatives and is waiting consideration by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Industry executives worry that the provision, which is retroactive to 1995, will have a chilling effect on filmmakers. Faced with the choice of filing a 2257 certificate or editing out a scene, a filmmaker might decide it’s not worth getting entangled with the federal government and let the scene fall to the cutting-room floor, the executives said…
幻術
2005-10-14, 5:27 PM #2
Is this the Bill that Bush threatened to veto?
2005-10-14, 5:37 PM #3
Retarded. Government sucks.
2005-10-14, 5:38 PM #4
Well it is just a bill on Capitol Hill. I don't think it would get far. Sex or simulated sex in movies should not make it porn film. There are movie ratings for a reason.
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2005-10-14, 5:38 PM #5
OHNOS HUMAN REPRODUCTION

:|

They seem to be making a rather big deal out of something that people are, you know, supposed to do.
2005-10-14, 5:47 PM #6
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']OHNOS HUMAN REPRODUCTION

:|

They seem to be making a rather big deal out of something that people are, you know, supposed to do.

Wheras violence is probably the most common thing to see in movies...I bet someone getting shot hardly warrants a PG rating nowadays. And movies with extremely graphic gore and unbelievable violence can scrape by with an R or evemn 14a rating, yet a sex scene done tastefully with little nudity can get the movie an NC-17 rating...like that new one with kevin bacon got.
2005-10-14, 5:49 PM #7
"little nudity" will not make it NC-17.
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2005-10-14, 5:50 PM #8
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']OHNOS HUMAN REPRODUCTION

:|

They seem to be making a rather big deal out of something that people are, you know, supposed to do.

This nation still has strong Judeo-Christian principles left.
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2005-10-14, 5:54 PM #9
Originally posted by Echoman:
"little nudity" will not make it NC-17.

Ok maybe not, but a sex scene still gets it NC-17 while gory violence is R. Somethings wrong with that.

What the hells the point of NC-17 anyways?? R is already only for adults that can decide whether or not to see it ...it seems totally ridiculous to have another category.
2005-10-14, 5:56 PM #10
Originally posted by JediGandalf:
This nation still has strong Judeo-Christian principles left.


Pssh. Greco-Roman FTW.
2005-10-14, 5:56 PM #11
[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Ok maybe not, but a sex scene still gets it NC-17 while gory violence is R. Somethings wrong with that.

What the hells the point of NC-17 anyways?? R is already only for adults that can decide whether or not to see it ...it seems totally ridiculous to have another category.[/QUOTE]

Have you seen a NC-17 film?
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2005-10-14, 5:57 PM #12
People under 17 can see a rated R movie with a parent or adult. Under 17 arn't allowed into NC-17 movies.
Pissed Off?
2005-10-14, 6:08 PM #13
Originally posted by Avenger:
People under 17 can see a rated R movie with a parent or adult. Under 17 arn't allowed into NC-17 movies.


In addition, I do not believe 17 y/o's can go to these movies, but can go to R movies without a parent/guardian.
2005-10-14, 6:41 PM #14
I think that's what I said. :confused:
Pissed Off?
2005-10-14, 6:56 PM #15
Well...yes...now that I read it, it is....well except for one difference, which covers that 17 year olds can go to the movies without guardians in R.
2005-10-14, 7:12 PM #16
Originally posted by Anovis:
Is this the Bill that Bush threatened to veto?

The only bill that Bush has threatened to veto is the one that includes John McCain's anti-torture clause. Well, recently that is. The other bills that've been threatened with a veto were the Stem Cell research bill and one changing medicare.
2005-10-14, 7:21 PM #17
But... Any six year old can just get on google and do an image search. Why not just make a simple "movie with sex crap" category, so the people who don’t want to see it can avoid it. If you're will to go halfway with crude sex humor/ extreme explicitness, what's keeping you from watching hard core porn? No need to make tones of subcategories.
2005-10-14, 7:37 PM #18
what about making out in movies, thats slightly sexual if you do it right...
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2005-10-14, 8:00 PM #19
I think its time for a new government that knows its place.
2005-10-14, 9:42 PM #20
It's so typical of Massassi to contort something into something else for an excuse to b****.
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2005-10-14, 9:50 PM #21
Originally posted by Anovis:
Well...yes...now that I read it, it is....well except for one difference, which covers that 17 year olds can go to the movies without guardians in R.


Ah, got it.
Pissed Off?
2005-10-15, 12:10 AM #22
You guys seem to have a complicated movie rating system...
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2005-10-15, 12:39 AM #23
Under every rating there is an explanation of what exactly is in the film that caused it to get the rating it did.

For instance:
Quote:
Serenity (2005)
Universal Studios
PG-13 Rated PG-13 for sequences of intense violence and action, and some sexual references.


How much simpler can it get? Does the government really need to do the parent's job? Can parents no longer read and make a good decision on whether or not their child is ready to see the movie in question?

The voluntary rating system already does an excellent job of reporting the type of content in a film. Why not let the industry continue to do what it has done so well already? Is government interference really necessary?

Can I make a post made up entirely of questions?

...
Apparently not.
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2005-10-15, 12:42 AM #24
Originally posted by Ric_Olie:
Under every rating there is an explanation of what exactly is in the film that caused it to get the rating it did.

For instance:


How much simpler can it get? Does the government really need to do the parent's job? Can parents no longer read and make a good decision on whether or not their child is ready to see the movie in question?

The voluntary rating system already does an excellent job of reporting the type of content in a film. Why not let the industry continue to do what it has done so well already? Is government interference really necessary?

Can I make a post made up entirely of questions?

...
Apparently not.


Wow is that really the description. INTENSE VIOLENCe, yet some references to sexuality...BEWARE PARENTS.
2005-10-15, 1:53 AM #25
Originally posted by lassev:
You guys seem to have a complicated movie rating system...


It's not comlicated at all. People are just idiots, our lawmakers included.
Pissed Off?
2005-10-15, 2:43 AM #26
Jeez you yanks are uptight... ;)

Seriously though, that's taking things just a little too far and a little too seriously. Reckon the chaps making these strange laws have ever engaged in "sexual activity"? Should ask their kids.

On second thoughts, eww.
2005-10-15, 3:09 AM #27
Burger crisis!

Anyhow, you seem to be a pretty porn community just by your Freshmen and what else.
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2005-10-15, 4:07 AM #28
Is it true that they digitally added more cloth to Jessica Alba's bikini in the American version of the movie?

Edit: Why did I write movie? :confused: I meant Into The Blue.
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2005-10-15, 4:58 AM #29
to what?
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2005-10-15, 7:02 AM #30
Impi: yes. Because her buttocks were too visible, apparently. (I'm serious)
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2005-10-15, 9:53 AM #31
Originally posted by Echoman:
Have you seen a NC-17 film?


The Evil Dead. Actually, a lot of horror films are NC-17.

I think it's ridiculous. Even Judeo-Christians needs some lovin' every now and then.
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2005-10-15, 9:55 AM #32
I support sex.
2005-10-15, 9:58 AM #33
Originally posted by Anovis:
I support sex.


I brake for people having sex.
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enshu
2005-10-15, 11:29 AM #34
America, commit suicide, please.
2005-10-15, 1:41 PM #35
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2005-10-15, 1:45 PM #36
hehehe
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2005-10-15, 2:48 PM #37
Originally posted by Tenshu:
I brake for people having sex.

To join them?
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2005-10-15, 3:20 PM #38
Maybe to film it, or both!
Pissed Off?
2005-10-15, 3:24 PM #39
Long live hot coffee!
2005-10-15, 7:25 PM #40
What's great is that images of nude people do absolutely nothing harmful to a child's psyche.
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