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Woot! Blood Elves in WoW expansion!
2005-10-28, 10:49 PM #1
Check it out! http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/
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2005-10-28, 10:56 PM #2
If the alliance race is pandarens, I will quit WoW and eat my copy.

I may post pics.
2005-10-28, 11:00 PM #3
Originally posted by Stinkywrix:
If the alliance race is pandarens, I will quit WoW and eat my copy.
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2005-10-28, 11:16 PM #4
I think Tim Buckley put it well.

Quote:
Let's talk about World of Warcraft for a moment, shall we?

I love this game.

Ok, now let's talk about the World of Warcraft expansion for a moment.

I have seen a lot of speculation lately about what the new races are going to be. Well, at least for the Horde side. Nobody seems have even the slightest clue who will be joining the Alliance.

The most common guess is that Blood Elves are coming to join with the Horde. There have been screenshots of the expansion floating around that show what appears to be a Blood Elf hometown. Now, I don't think this is the new race, and furthermore, I hope it isn't. Let me explain why.

I don't think it will be Blood Elves for a couple of reasons. First of all is the lore. According to Warcraft lore, there aren't many Blood Elves left in the world. Maybe a hundred, if I recall? On top of that, I think the Blood Elves were allied with the Alliance for a time during one of the games.

Second of all, I would like to think that Blizzard is better than to just slap some new colors and ears on Night Elves and call it a new race. A lot of people will be disappointed if that's the case.

Now here's why I really hope Blood Elves aren't coming to the Horde. And this is just my opinion. Everyone's reasoning is that Blizzard is going to give the Horde a "pretty" race, to compete with Night Elves. We don't need that.

The Horde houses its fair share of idiots, but the Alliance attracts all of the twelve-year-olds, who want to be their favorite fantasy heroes. I cannot beging to tell you how many Night Elf Hunters named some variation of "Legolas" I've seen.

Give us Ogres. A version of Ogres need to be Horde Playable. Or at the very least, give us Pandaren.

Opening day for the expansion will be fun, I gaurantee it. We're going to call it "Alt Day", because for the first time since launch, level one newbies will outnumber everyone else on the servers


But then again, I don't play WoW, so I don't really care.
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2005-10-29, 12:21 AM #5
I think he said there were rumors of it being padarens in that preview.

so for those WoW enthusiasts...or Warcraft Enthusiasts rather...what are padarens???
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2005-10-29, 12:51 AM #6
pandarens. panda people.
Moo.
2005-10-29, 1:04 AM #7
Pandarens first showed up in the warcraft 3 expansion.
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2005-10-29, 1:22 AM #8
Yeah, I don't think anyone has a damn clue what the alliance race is going to be. I think its safe to safe that the goblins will NEVER be playable because they enjoy exploiting both factions for money. If they were ever going to take a side, they would had went with the horde because the goblins have previously sided with the horde and goblins seem to be more frequent in horde towns than alliance. I highly doubt the high elves would be the new alliance race. That would be just dumb for both factions to get the same race. Pandereans might be the new race although the idea of a bunch of panda men running around doesn't set well with me. Who knows - maybe its an all new race that no one has ever seen before? :confused:
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2005-10-29, 11:06 AM #9
Before all the original races were announced, I had hoped that the Horde would stay as orcs/tauren/trolls and alliance as humans/night elves/dwarves, and a third faction would pop up, going along with the events that happened in TFT, with blood elves, naga, and the undead. IMO, it would have made more sense for the forsaken to go and hook up with illidan and kael than it does having them join the horde, and I never liked the choice of gnomes.

besides, how kickass would that be? illidan, sylvanis, kael, and that naga witch, leading an army of blood elves/undead/naga... it's like the three coolest races under four of the coolest heroes from WC3... which... is probably why they didn't do it... but oh well

they still need to throw in ogres though
Moo.
2005-10-29, 11:24 AM #10
I actually think that the new Alliance race is going to Draenai.

I have no clue how that would work, but I'm sure Metzen could pull something out of his rear.

:p
2005-10-29, 11:47 AM #11
I never understood what the big deal is about a new race in MMORPGs. All the races are the same anyway, the 'bonuses' they get aren't all that definining.
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2005-10-29, 1:12 PM #12
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I never understood what the big deal is about a new race in MMORPGs. All the races are the same anyway, the 'bonuses' they get aren't all that definining.


Unless certain races have class specific jobs or abilities. (IE: Blood magic)
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2005-10-29, 3:06 PM #13
Originally posted by Freelancer:
I never understood what the big deal is about a new race in MMORPGs. All the races are the same anyway, the 'bonuses' they get aren't all that definining.


In WoW its a big deal because of the class restrictions and racial bonuses/abilities. The Undead can become immune to fear, the tauren can aoe stun, the orc have 25% resistance to stun, the trolls can increase cast and melee by 25%, the humans have 10% increase in rep gain, the gnomes have 10% more mana, the night elfs can turn invisible, and the dwarves can remove poison and disease at will are all useful racials to consider when picking a class.
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2005-10-29, 3:31 PM #14
blood elves FTW
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2005-10-29, 4:26 PM #15
Originally posted by SavageX378:
In WoW its a big deal because of the class restrictions and racial bonuses/abilities. The Undead can become immune to fear, the tauren can aoe stun, the orc have 25% resistance to stun, the trolls can increase cast and melee by 25%, the humans have 10% increase in rep gain, the gnomes have 10% more mana, the night elfs can turn invisible, and the dwarves can remove poison and disease at will are all useful racials to consider when picking a class.


there are a lot more racial abilities than that, even;

humans have a special ability that increases their stealth detection for 20 seconds, they have a 5% increase to their spirit stat, and +5 to sword and mace skills

the night elves have a 1% extra chance to dodge, +10 nature resistance, and become a wisp instead of a ghost when they die (25% faster)

the dwarves stoneform ability doesn't just make them immune to poison, bleed, and disease when activated, but increases their armor by 5% (with a decrease in speed by 50%). they also get +10 cold resistance and +5 to their gun skill, as well as being able to sense the location of treasure chests on the minimap

gnomes have a special ability to escape root or snare, have 5% increased intelligence, +10 arcane resistance, and +15 to engineering skills

and on the horde side of things, orcs have blood fury, which increases attack power by 25% for 15 seconds (but decreases by 25% after it wears off for 45 seconds), a 25% resistance to stun and knockout effects, their pets melee damage is increased by 5%, and they get a +5 to their axe skills

taurens get 5% increased health, +15 to herbalism skills, and +10 nature resistance

undead have will of the forsaken, which makes them immune to fear, sleep, and charm for 5 seconds, cannibalize (which heals 7% of their health every 2 seconds by feeding off a nearby humanoid or undead corpse), they can breath underwater 300% longer, and have +10 shadow resistance

and finally, trolls have berserking, which can be activated after they get hit by a critical, which increases attack and casting speed by 25% but they take 10% more damage, they have a 10% health regeneration bonus, 5% damage bonus against beasts, and +5 to throwing weapon skills

that's not even taking into account the stat differences or class restrictions for each race, the fact that they look different, start in different areas, and have different quests

so yeah, the races in WoW are pretty different, just most of it happens behind the scenes. here's hoping that the blood elves are equally unique
Moo.
2005-10-29, 4:55 PM #16
Yes, I know all those Big cow. I didn't list them all because I only wanted to highlight the most appealing racials for each race.

Oh, as for the blood elves racials, they have two racials they can use as spells. They have "mana tap" which allows them to steal 10 mana from their target and stack it up to 3 times as an aura buff and then use those auras as ammo for their other racial that allows them to gain 5 rage or 140 mana. That sounds pretty powerful and should be quite useful for caster classes.
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2005-10-29, 4:58 PM #17
No, Alliance races racials are pretty much insignificant and useless. Trolls get the shaft as well.
2005-10-29, 5:01 PM #18
[QUOTE=Connection Problem]No, Alliance races racials are pretty much insignificant and useless. Trolls get the shaft as well.[/QUOTE]

Not entirely true. Shadowmeld is very useful for hunters that have aimed shot. Its so useful that the horde are whining about it and want it nerfed.
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2005-10-29, 5:16 PM #19
Originally posted by SavageX378:
Yes, I know all those Big cow. I didn't list them all because I only wanted to highlight the most appealing racials for each race.


sorry, i was listing them as a supplement to your post, not as a correction
Moo.
2005-10-29, 8:49 PM #20
Originally posted by A_Big_Fat_CoW:
sorry, i was listing them as a supplement to your post, not as a correction


oh ok, no biggie :)
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2005-10-29, 11:07 PM #21
Don't take whining as a indication of power.
The WoW forums are pathetically overloaded with whingey little *****es who complain about every little thing.

Anyway, back onto topic.

The blood elves' racials sound a bit ridiculous from reading this thread. But powerful on paper isn't always powerful in game.
I'm definitely going have to check them out.
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2005-10-30, 8:42 AM #22
Originally posted by A_Big_Fat_CoW:
Before all the original races were announced, I had hoped that the Horde would stay as orcs/tauren/trolls and alliance as humans/night elves/dwarves, and a third faction would pop up, going along with the events that happened in TFT, with blood elves, naga, and the undead. IMO, it would have made more sense for the forsaken to go and hook up with illidan and kael than it does having them join the horde, and I never liked the choice of gnomes.

besides, how kickass would that be? illidan, sylvanis, kael, and that naga witch, leading an army of blood elves/undead/naga... it's like the three coolest races under four of the coolest heroes from WC3... which... is probably why they didn't do it... but oh well

they still need to throw in ogres though


I agree completely!
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2005-10-30, 7:34 PM #23
As a Horde member, I'm not pleased that Blood Elves are coming to Horde. I liked being outnumbered.
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2005-10-30, 8:34 PM #24
A third faction will never happen mainly because of one thing: Battlegrounds. Its much easier for the devs to keep it two factions because it makes setting up battlegrounds much easy if only two sides are fighting another. A third faction who just screw that up. Not only that, world pvp would be a pain too since each side would have to worry about being raided by two factions at the same time.
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2005-10-30, 8:35 PM #25
They could've made it work if it started out as three factions though...
2005-10-30, 8:35 PM #26
I wanted BLOOD DWARVES.
2005-10-30, 8:42 PM #27
Originally posted by SavageX378:
A third faction will never happen mainly because of one thing: Battlegrounds. Its much easier for the devs to keep it two factions because it makes setting up battlegrounds much easy if only two sides are fighting another. A third faction who just screw that up. Not only that, world pvp would be a pain too since each side would have to worry about being raided by two factions at the same time.


certainly there won't be a third faction now, but I was talking back before the game was even released, when the only announced races were orc, troll, and tauren for horde and human, dwarf, and night elf for alliance

and three-way combat, in my opinion, is always more interesting than two-way, because you're always having to cover your back. some of the most memorable moments I ever had in planetside were when all three factions were fighting over the same piece of land

you're right in that the current battlegrounds could never support a third faction, but if they were designed with three factions in mind, it could be really fun. but, of course, this is just wishful thinking because it won't ever happen
Moo.
2005-10-30, 9:26 PM #28
Originally posted by Anovis:
I wanted BLOOD DWARVES.



Screw Blood Dwarves, I wanted motorcycles!
2005-10-30, 10:52 PM #29
Troll racials suck big time. Beserking is completely useless unless you're a warrior, and even then, it just makes more work for whoever's healing you.
2005-10-31, 1:00 AM #30
[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Troll racials suck big time. Beserking is completely useless unless you're a warrior, and even then, it just makes more work for whoever's healing you.[/QUOTE]

Well, it does speed up casting speed too so it could be useful as a priest but sadly you have be melee'ed for that to work. I use berserk with my shaman every now and then to see if I can pump out healing and lighting bolts faster but it doesn't seem to be very effective. If the stupid 10% damage taken increase and crit hit needed wasn't there, it would be a decent talent.
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2005-10-31, 1:13 PM #31
[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Troll racials suck big time. Beserking is completely useless unless you're a warrior, and even then, it just makes more work for whoever's healing you.[/QUOTE]

Someone dosen't have a troll priest / mage.

I <3 beserking. Beserk, frost nova, fireball spam.
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