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So, uh...France
2005-11-07, 1:43 AM #1
Why isn't anyone talking about this?
2005-11-07, 1:50 AM #2
You know, I had to go back to the google homepage and look at the news headlines to remember what you were talking about. I know, sad isn't it?

These rioters need to be brought under control, promptly. France needs to call in outside help from the rest of the EU to quell these people before anyone else gets hurt if they can't stop this themselves. I don't know why the riots have gone on as long as they have. They should have been stopped the first day.
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2005-11-07, 4:02 AM #3
Bah. That's just French people being French. They wouldn't be French if they didn't burn a couple of thousands of cars in the middle of their capital every now and then.
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2005-11-07, 4:18 AM #4
This is what happens to France without anyone marching into their country.
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2005-11-07, 4:22 AM #5
It would humorous if they started a civil war inside their country, and then surrendered to themselves.
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2005-11-07, 5:06 AM #6
Turning on the TV, seeing some hardcore military action :rolleyes: and all that jazz. That would make my day.

But still, I guess we also now see who are more arrogant, americans/brits/whatevers or the french. He he he ha!
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2005-11-07, 5:19 AM #7
Originally posted by tofu:
Why isn't anyone talking about this?

Because, as far as I know, none of the people who post here live in France, and in general people are more concerned about issues which affront them directly.

Not that we dont care, mind you, but it's one of those things you read about and then forget after thinking about how horrible it is for a minute or two. Like that earthquake in Pakistan, or a bombing in the Gaza strip.
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2005-11-07, 5:42 AM #8
Odd that there was a thread for a minor thing, like a bomb in a finnish mall, pretty much immediately :p
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2005-11-07, 5:55 AM #9
Originally posted by Spork:
Not that we dont care


Actually...I think that is the biggest reason. It's only France fighting with itself, it's like your left hand fighting your right hand.
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2005-11-07, 6:00 AM #10
America fighting itself would get 5205 threads and it's own forum, mind you.
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2005-11-07, 7:10 AM #11
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
America fighting itself would get 5205 threads and it's own forum, mind you.


Because America's actually worth a damn.

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2005-11-07, 7:30 AM #12
Hmm, true. I think we should only have America. The rest are kinda worthless untermenschen countries anyway.

I would actually support the rioters if they were Majestic 12 though. But no, real life is boring :(
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2005-11-07, 7:39 AM #13
I was in Paris with my girlfriend two weeks ago for six days of fall-break (you know, for "reading" for all those "exams"). They were then on the second highest security alert stage.

Had lots of fun, but there was a strange tension in the air.

Twice we were stranded because our train or metro got delayed by 30+minutes because of a bomb-threat somewhere further down the line.

An advertisement for a charity for orphans whose parents were policemen and were killed in the line of duty. (Really not a problem we have in Finland)

All of the public trash-cans were replaced with semi-transparent plastic bags hanging from hoops (y'know, so that you might see if someone throws an IED in there.

Three-man squads of fully armed Gendarmes wearing thick ceramic-plated armour patrolling the airport. Soldiers on the shopping-streets after dark near the Champs d'Elysees, FAMAS rifles out and ready.

Police-boats speeding along the Seine river atleast once every 10 minutes.

Now, It wasn't like that last time I was there 10 years ago. I didn't know if I should have felt paranoid or safe.

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2005-11-07, 8:11 AM #14
You, know if some crowd of idiot teens started tearing up my property I'd love get a P-90 and let them have it. Violent idiocy is something that ticks me off greatly.
2005-11-07, 8:11 AM #15
I heard it was French Muslims rioting.

One policeman got shot it in the neck with a shotgun by a Muslim in a riot.

Beat their A$$es into the dirt i say.
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2005-11-07, 8:14 AM #16
Headshots are where it's at. No more screwing around with tear gass. :D
2005-11-07, 8:15 AM #17
Damn them terrists.
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2005-11-07, 8:21 AM #18
What are they fighting about? I haven't been paying attention.
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2005-11-07, 8:24 AM #19
Two teens died and other teens activated retard mode.
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2005-11-07, 8:34 AM #20
RETARD MODE, GO!
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2005-11-07, 9:00 AM #21
I have a french Knock Knock joke.

Knock Knock
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2005-11-07, 9:04 AM #22
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
You, know if some crowd of idiot teens started tearing up my property I'd love get a P-90 and let them have it. Violent idiocy is something that ticks me off greatly.


Shooting at a crowd with a P-90 sounds also like a violent idiocy to me...
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2005-11-07, 9:14 AM #23
Originally posted by ******:
Knock Knock

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2005-11-07, 9:22 AM #24
Apparently the French don't need a natural disaster to start looting and rioting in the streets.
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2005-11-07, 9:35 AM #25
Somebody stole all the frogs legs (j/k)

If the French government wanted to stop it they could, and still might (army is on standby). The problem is its just the French been French.
2005-11-07, 9:36 AM #26
[QUOTE=Michael MacFarlane]Apparently the French don't need a natural disaster to start looting and rioting in the streets.[/QUOTE]

Heh heh. Yeah, all you need is some French people and a street.

Such jolly good people.
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2005-11-07, 9:56 AM #27
Originally posted by lassev:
Shooting at a crowd with a P-90 sounds also like a violent idiocy to me...


Actually it'd be pretty smart, since the P90's ammunition is so small collateral damage possibilities would be reduced greatly because it can't "overpenetrate."
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2005-11-07, 10:04 AM #28
Originally posted by Ruthven:
I heard it was French Muslims rioting.

One policeman got shot it in the neck with a shotgun by a Muslim in a riot.

Beat their A$$es into the dirt i say.

It is. Apparently this is a growing problem all across the EU. There has been quite the influx of Muslims to the EU. They're probably going to want Spain back.
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2005-11-07, 10:13 AM #29
Lol, I dunno what american news tell you but what happened is that two teens commited a minor crime and were chased by police. They tried to hide from the cops but jumping over a fence, but on the other side of that fence was some electric transformer (or whatever they are called in english) and they pretty much fried.

Them coming from the poorer quarters of france, it roused up their friends and neighbours and other teens their age. Then a few days later one member of the france government publically went live saying "Nous allons débarasser la France des rapasses."

This translates roughly to "We'll rid france of poor scum."

That is what caused the riots. Not some religious act or "muslims" lol.
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2005-11-07, 10:51 AM #30
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
Turning on the TV, seeing some hardcore military action :rolleyes: and all that jazz. That would make my day.

But still, I guess we also now see who are more arrogant, americans/brits/whatevers or the french. He he he ha!


how dare you consider that anyone hates the french more than the english!

personally, i think its great.
2005-11-07, 10:53 AM #31
You have bad hygiene.
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2005-11-07, 11:13 AM #32
Originally posted by Jepman:
This translates roughly to "We'll rid france of poor scum."

That is what caused the riots. Not some religious act or "muslims" lol.


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2005-11-07, 11:16 AM #33
Originally posted by lassev:
Shooting at a crowd with a P-90 sounds also like a violent idiocy to me...


It sounded like that at first to me too, but it doesn’t count if the people you are shooting at are self-righteous jerks with a stupid philosophy they took five minutes to think through. ;) You have to admit, though, it would be satisfying.
2005-11-07, 11:40 AM #34
Originally posted by thauruin:
Imperial Officer: "You rebel scum" . . . Enter Star Wars


Do NOT underestimate the power of the French connection.
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2005-11-07, 12:34 PM #35
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
It sounded like that at first to me too, but it doesn’t count if the people you are shooting at are self-righteous jerks with a stupid philosophy they took five minutes to think through. ;) You have to admit, though, it would be satisfying.


Yes, I have to admit, it would probably be satisfying...
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2005-11-07, 12:55 PM #36
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
It sounded like that at first to me too, but it doesn’t count if the people you are shooting at are self-righteous jerks with a stupid philosophy they took five minutes to think through. ;) You have to admit, though, it would be satisfying.

Ok.

*shoots Obi on the head*

...
2005-11-07, 12:57 PM #37
Originally posted by tofu:
Ok.

*shoots Obi on the head*

...


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2005-11-07, 1:45 PM #38
Americans are so violent!

Oops, force of habit. FRENCH are so violent, I meant.
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2005-11-07, 3:36 PM #39
Lots of close-minded francophobia going on in this thread. Almost as sad to watch from the side as the bridge thread during the summer (OMG... FRENCH FROGGIE BRIDGE.... I BET IT'LL SURRENDER LOLLOLLLOLL!)

Don't jump to conclusions... You need to distinguish the French people from the French Administration, the current line-up of which is the least popular in decades.

French authorities really don't treat its immigrant population very well (especially the obviously non-caucasian ones). To wit, news coverage showing a french policeman calling a woman in a hijab a "ninja"... The people rioting aren't immigrants, and they aren't exclusively muslim. They're children of immigrants who have been screwed-over by the French system.

Most "immigrants" (including the muslim ones, but Eastern European (Polish, Czech, etc.) or Mediterranean too) that live in France are third or fourth generation immigrants. Lots of European countries were "importing" labour through bi-lateral treaties with countries such as Italy, Morocco, Algeria, Senegal, and Turkey in the 1960's. They were brought over, stuck in the coal mines or other jobs the locals wouldn't do anymore and that was it.

Gradually the flow of immigrants was stopped but there was a failure to actually make an effort to integrate those who stayed. They brought over their family or started one here and each generation since has had a hard time.

Poor quality of education, high drop-out rate, high unemployment. The ones that make it and get a degree are then discriminated against and have a hard time getting a job. The ones that don't, well, if they're lucky they have a familymember with a kebab or crêpe stand.

Also, just because Chiraq's the democratically elected president doesn't mean that he's unpopular. He's really unpopular across the whole front of the population. Probably the most hated (and corrupt, as well as decadent) head of state in the EU by his own people except for Silvio Berlusconi (Who, along with Italy, didn't catch much flak from conservative Americans since he, really unpopularly, went along in Iraq, all until the friendly fire death of the Italian Intelligence Agent).

The whole situation with the riots should be somewhat familiar to the Britassians here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/25/newsid_2546000/2546233.stm
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2005-11-07, 4:23 PM #40
Originally posted by Zell:
Who dar?

We surrender!
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