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Question about the PS
2005-11-09, 10:00 PM #1
Hi, I got offered a free playstation 1 from a friend, but he doesnt have any games with it and I'm wondering is it worth it? I've never touched any Playstation before so I don't know anything about it. If I get it, what games should I get?
"Intelligent people know of what they speak; fools speak of what they know."

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2005-11-09, 10:02 PM #2
OF COURSE! Games you should get:
Final Fantasy Tactics
Siphon Filter I and II
Metal Gear Solid Series
Uhhh IDK?
2005-11-09, 10:04 PM #3
Grand Turismo I & II
Crash Team Racing
Pissed Off?
2005-11-09, 10:06 PM #4
oh and btw, my brother's been begging me to get the tekkens (not sure which ones), is that a good game?
"Intelligent people know of what they speak; fools speak of what they know."

- Minchas Shabbos Pirkei Avos 3:18 / Ethics Of The Fathers
2005-11-09, 10:06 PM #5
they're alright...
2005-11-09, 11:49 PM #6
Final Fantasies 7 and 8
2005-11-09, 11:52 PM #7
Final Fantasy VIII, although the PC version was better.
2005-11-10, 8:04 AM #8
DO NOT GET SYPHON FILTER 2. The first one is alright, but the second one outright sucks.

Final Fantasy 7, 8, and if you're masochistic 9.
Suikoden 1 and 2
Legend of Dragoon
Ape Escape
Wipeout
Metal Gear Solid

There's others, but they don't come to mind, really.
D E A T H
2005-11-10, 8:07 AM #9
Chrono Cross
2005-11-10, 8:37 AM #10
THPS1 and 2
Thrasher: Skate and Destroy (only PS1 game i know of with ragdoll)
Silent Hill
Jet Moto *
Wipeout *
Oddworld *
Medal of Honor *
Final Fantasy Origins (the only good FF on the PS1 IMO)
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2005-11-10, 11:57 AM #11
Here is a list of games that are still worth playing even today (there are a lot of PS1 games I used to like that I wouldn't ever touch again in this day and age).

Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9 - don't listen to the haters
[http://images.geekazoids.net/ffix.jpg]
Xenogears
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Final Fantasy Tactics - but only if you like hard games that require an excessive time investment
2005-11-10, 12:10 PM #12
FF7, FF8, FF9
For fun: Tekken 2,3
In my opinion: Ehrgeiz, Parasite Eve + PE2

Havent tested, probably good: MGS
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2005-11-10, 12:42 PM #13
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy Anthologies (it includes FF6! Duh!)
Chrono Cross

Um, that's it. The PS sucks.
"I'm afraid of OC'ing my video card. You never know when Ogre Calling can go terribly wrong."
2005-11-10, 12:48 PM #14
Originally posted by Whelly:
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night


Holy hell how could I forget SotN. GET THIS GAME NOW.
D E A T H
2005-11-10, 3:03 PM #15
Oh yeah, that. Duh
2005-11-11, 6:14 AM #16
Don't listen to Knobz, FF9 sucked cow testicle.

Metal Gear Solid
FF7
FF8
Crash Team Racing
Tekken 2 + 3
nope.
2005-11-11, 6:34 AM #17
Originally posted by Boco:
Don't listen to Knobz, FF9 sucked cow testicle.


How about just letting him try the game for himself? Don't take my word for it. This is what it looks like if a game sucks cow testicle. Apparently.
2005-11-11, 7:14 AM #18
Indeed. It was the worst one out of the entire numbered series.
nope.
2005-11-11, 7:18 AM #19
Ooh, opinion.
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2005-11-11, 7:39 AM #20
Originally posted by Boco:
Indeed. It was the worst one out of the entire numbered series.


I'm going to counter your opinion with some factual information:

1) Visit this Link (Gamerankings.com):
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

2) In the box entitled "Search For Title or Keyword" enter Final Fantasy.

3) Click Go.

You will see a list of Final Fantasy games and their critical acclaim, and lo and behold, FFIX comes out on top. It can't be that bad me thinks.
2005-11-11, 7:42 AM #21
Note the average vote and overall score for FF7 [The best one] is higher than FF9.

And that isn't factual evidence, it's comparing my opinion to other people's opinions.
nope.
2005-11-11, 7:53 AM #22
Originally posted by Boco:
Note the average vote and overall score for FF7 [The best one] is higher than FF9.


If you count all websites in the list as opposed to, you know, only the credible ones, FFIX still comes out 3rd. Not exactly the worst ever now huh.

Quote:
And that isn't factual evidence, it's comparing my opinion to other people's opinions.


Exactly. I'm trying to give the thread started some balanced reporting by showing him others' opinions. And the game that is #1 on the list of main review sites with regard to FF games happens to be FF9. Fact.

Apparently, Boco belives FFIX is the worst FF of all the numbered FF games. And he is entitled to his opinion. Just as I am entitled to my opinion, and that is that he's positively insane.
2005-11-11, 8:47 AM #23
FF6 > FF5 > FF4 > FF7 > FF8 > FF9 > FF1 > FF3 > FF2 > FFX >>>>>>>>> FFX-2

Boco, quit spreading your BS (oops, I mean opinion) as fact. Which is what you're doing. Let the guy try the game for himself.
D E A T H
2005-11-11, 8:54 AM #24
FFMQ >>>>>All Other FF Games. FTW
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2005-11-11, 9:13 AM #25
I think Yecti's trying to see how far he can push the members of massassi before they lynch him :p
D E A T H
2005-11-11, 12:11 PM #26
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]FF6 > (everything else)[/QUOTE]
This man speaks the complete and utter truth. FF6 is my favorite game of all time... I would pick it over FF7 any day.

You know they're porting FF6 to GBA, Yosh? :D It's release date will be the happiest day of my life.
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2005-11-11, 12:11 PM #27
:eek:

Just a conversion or are they somewhat remaking it too?
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2005-11-11, 12:22 PM #28
I'm sorry, no.

Final Fantasy 6 was a good game but it's not a better game than FFVII or FFVIII.

FFIX had the worst battle system ever. It claims to be similar to 7 and 8 but it's much, much slower and even basic attack moves take over 4 times longer to execute. When you end up fighting a boss that, itself, has insanely long attack animations, you'll end up sitting there for whole minutes before your characters actually do anything. FFIX is boring.

They put a lot of thought into the characters and into the world, and the storyline is interesting (although very strange). But the GAME sucks. The only reason FF9 is reviewed "high" is because everybody was on a Final Fantasy craze after FF7 came out and even the worst crap Square-Enix could **** out was solid gold in their eyes.

In terms of pure gameplay, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Final Fantasy X are the best FF games to have ever been made. They also have the most grating characters.
2005-11-11, 12:23 PM #29
I remember when Jonathan was "Why do people like FF7? FF10 is graphically etc. better, therefore it's better."
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2005-11-11, 12:27 PM #30
FF9 is my favorite.

But get Crash Team Racing. It's the best cart racing game ever.
2005-11-11, 12:33 PM #31
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
I remember when Jonathan was "Why do people like FF7? FF10 is graphically etc. better, therefore it's better."

"...is graphically etc. better"?

Do you have any idea how lazy and ignorant a person sounds when they only bother to provide one point and say "etc" at the end?

I think FFX is a better game because:

  • The learning curve is much lower so it's easier for new players.
  • The sphere system is much more intuitive than the materia system. With materia you can get some really interesting combinations - it's a cool gameplay dynamic - but it's not straightforward.
  • The world map is better-designed. Many of the world screens in FF7 were difficult to navigate. This was not intentional. The "select" arrow+hand feature was an obvious afterthought and, frankly, required to complete the game. FFX uses mostly 3D environments with ladders and paths clearly marked on a radar.
  • The combat is turn-based instead of active timer-based. This is a preference issue. I'll just say that I prefer turn-based combat.
  • Blitzball was slightly less annoying than Chocobo Racing.


There are a lot of things I like about FF7 too, but FFX simply had better game design. It's a product of time and experimentation and it's the last FF game to be made by the original Final Fantasy team.
2005-11-11, 12:39 PM #32
Lazy? Ooh, yes. Ignorant? According to the internet.

I mostly disagree with you, but hey, things happen.

Originally posted by Jon`C:
That reminds me of something.
I have to rant about this. Why is the "best of everything" always so ancient? Citizen Kane the best movie ever? How do they justify that? There have been recent movies that outclass Citizen Kane in direction, cinematography, special effects, dialogue, acting and storyline. Why does that one film deserve the title of "best ever"?

You can see the same thing in the game community. Why is Super Metroid the best Metroid game ever? Metroid Prime is way better in every single way, from gameplay to storyline. Why is Super Metroid the greatest? Just because some game snob feels nostalgic about his youth? That's what another Metroid game is for!!

And what about the people who say FF7 was better than FFX. What the hell? FF7 was great, sure, for its time. Know what FF10 has? Better art, better graphics in general, a better storyline, better gameplay (the LIFEBLOOD of a game!), and... you know.... real voice acting. It also does away with much of the world map, which always was clumsy and irritating in the 3D Final Fantasy titles. In every single way FFX is a more enjoyable game than FF7.... so why do people still claim it's better?


I blame it on the mass media.
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2005-11-11, 12:45 PM #33
I absolutely hated how linear FFX was. Also, am I the only one that thinks Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is awful? God, that is one tedious and grating game.
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2005-11-11, 12:55 PM #34
Originally posted by Whelly:
I absolutely hated how linear FFX was.
All of the Final Fantasy games were horribly linear.

The only difference between FFX and the others: before you had to wander around aimlessly for hours trying to step on the right tile to trigger the next story event. In FFX the area you have to search is reduced greatly.
2005-11-11, 1:19 PM #35
Quote:
even the worst crap Square-Enix could **** out was solid gold in their eyes.
Uhh... I'm pretty sure it was just Squaresoft back then... which was a good thing.

And I personally like FF9, but I liked FF8 best of all. The Junctioning system in that game is freakin cool.. A little complicated but incredibly powerful once you learn how to use it properly. FF7 I've only played briefly but I was turned off by the marshmallow characters.

Anyway, as far as games to get: (these were already mentioned, but for confirmation's sake and to stay on topic...)

Final Fantasy Tactics (Freakin awesome game. (even though they stole the idea from Shining Force and didn't do nearly as good a job)

Final Fantasy 7,8,9 (see conversation above)

Crash Team Racing (Vinny's right. This game rocks. And I bet I could waste anyone here at it. :p )

Metal Gear Solid (It's ok... The first couple levels are awesome. After that it kind of got repetitive for me, but you can probably get it for about $10, so it'll be worth it)

Siphon Filter series (I've played 1, haven't played 2 or 3, but I've heard they're good)
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2005-11-11, 2:48 PM #36
and...
Quote:
and... you know.... real voice acting.
You're kidding, right? The voice acting was rubbish.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2005-11-11, 3:04 PM #37
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
and...
You're kidding, right? The voice acting was rubbish.
I know the voice acting is terrible, but the point is that it has voice acting. The other games don't.

The rant Nikumubeki posted (and I'm amazed he actually remembers... I guess I should be flattered that he hangs on my every word) was exactly what it looks like: people who claim things that are - honestly - primitive are somehow better than things that are new. They aren't. I believe the rant was primarily focused on how Citizen Kane was named the best movie ever created.

Fellowship of the Ring is a better movie than Citizen Kane in acting, production quality, cinematography, special effects and every other area. If you sit down and watch both movies back to back, you're probably going to enjoy Fellowship of the Ring a lot more.

That doesn't mean Citizen Kane isn't powerful and moving. You should see Citizen Kane, just like you should play Super Metroid and Final Fantasy 7. But just because it's a classic doesn't mean it's automatically better than anything they can produce today. People are looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses and it's stupid.

If you tell someone totally brand new to the Final Fantasy series to start with Final Fantasy 6, they're probably going to say "WTF?" and go back to playing Quake 4 -- because it's not that good by modern standards.
2005-11-11, 3:48 PM #38
well I would agree for the most part... At the same time though, you can't just decide that something that's newer is better, because a lot of times it's not.

A good example of this in terms of video games is Asteroids. The classic game is awesome. Great gameplay, a fun concept... But it's a bunch of (sometimes, depending on version) colored blobs floating around the screen getting "shot at" by a little arrow. But then Asteroids was remade (I think by Activision, but correct me if I'm wrong), and the new version has updated graphics, a few new features, and the same great gameplay. It's definately a better game. But it's better not because it's newer, but because it's built on the great game that came before.

Same thing goes with movies. A lot of good movies are good because the directors/producers have learned from the experiences of previous directors/producers. Citizen Kane is probably a great movie (though I confess I've never seen it). But now, we can analyze what makes Citizen Kane so great and put it into new movies and because of the advancement of technology it's better, even though it's based on the same principle. But there are plenty of movies newer than Citizen Kane that suck balls, even if they have great special effects.

also:
Quote:
I know the voice acting is terrible, but the point is that it has voice acting. The other games don't.
I'd sooooo much rather have no voice acting than crappy voice acting.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2005-11-11, 5:30 PM #39
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I'm sorry, no.

Final Fantasy 6 was a good game but it's not a better game than FFVII or FFVIII.

FFIX had the worst battle system ever. It claims to be similar to 7 and 8 but it's much, much slower and even basic attack moves take over 4 times longer to execute. When you end up fighting a boss that, itself, has insanely long attack animations, you'll end up sitting there for whole minutes before your characters actually do anything. FFIX is boring.

They put a lot of thought into the characters and into the world, and the storyline is interesting (although very strange). But the GAME sucks. The only reason FF9 is reviewed "high" is because everybody was on a Final Fantasy craze after FF7 came out and even the worst crap Square-Enix could **** out was solid gold in their eyes.

In terms of pure gameplay, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Final Fantasy X are the best FF games to have ever been made. They also have the most grating characters.

And people ***** ME out about posting my opinion as fact?

FF6 was my favorite FF, and I say the sprite fantasies were much better. Can't wait for the GBA conversion :D
D E A T H
2005-11-11, 7:16 PM #40
Originally posted by Whelly:
Also, am I the only one that thinks Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is awful? God, that is one tedious and grating game.


I love that game. It was waaaay better than FFT for PS.

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