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That dog's trying to bite the hand that feeds it...
2005-11-15, 11:43 PM #1
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051115-121904-4965r

I'm waiting for the U.S. to decide to take the billions it offers in international aid to reform its social system.
omnia mea mecum porto
2005-11-15, 11:50 PM #2
Yeah, that would be funny.
Pissed Off?
2005-11-16, 1:44 AM #3
I'm all for it.
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2005-11-16, 2:23 AM #4
hehe.. I've never seen exacerbate in published form



Look at where the people toured, urban New York and New Orleans, those two areas are the extreme cases for poverty at this time, you'd think they'd notice that not all of America is likened to one area
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2005-11-16, 7:46 AM #5
Originally posted by Genki:
Look at where the people toured, urban New York and New Orleans, those two areas are the extreme cases for poverty at this time, you'd think they'd notice that not all of America is likened to one area


Although at the same time one could argue that this is America and there shouldnt be 12% of the population living in poverty at anytime.
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2005-11-16, 8:13 AM #6
This is what I've been saying all along. Stop giving money to other countries. Stop wasting money on stupid foreign wars. To the American government, AMERICANS COME FIRST. Jesus, it really pisses me off.
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2005-11-16, 8:17 AM #7
Originally posted by Freelancer:
Stop giving money to other countries.


...you do realize that our Foreign Aid is not just philanthropy, right? We're trying to improve the market economies abroad so that our companies have places to invest and make money. Should the Government help out a few thousand poor people in New York or Alabama so they can have more disposable income to buy cheap Chinese imports with, or should the Government improve the economies of LDCs with the hopes of American firms investing in those countries so that American companies can exploit the resources of that region?

Thankfully there are few knee-jerk reactionaries in Government outside of the White House.
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2005-11-16, 8:30 AM #8
Originally posted by Schming:
...you do realize that our Foreign Aid is not just philanthropy, right? Stuff...


That's an awful argument to use on me, as I would consider philanthropy the much nobler cause, but not moreso than our own people.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-11-16, 8:33 AM #9
Would you rather spend 10 bucks to feed one homeless american man that gave up or rather spend the 10 bucks to feed a couple third world families who are struggling much more?
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2005-11-16, 8:37 AM #10
I would use it to feed a couple American families who are struggling much more.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-11-16, 8:38 AM #11
10 bucks aint gonna feed jack. The amount of money to feed someone here is a lot higher than spending it on someone outside. With the money you take to feed a couple amiercan families, you could have fed a couple villages elsewhere.
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2005-11-16, 8:42 AM #12
Oh please, you know that's not true. :rolleyes:
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-11-16, 8:42 AM #13
So what, we should take care of those fools who make the wrong decisions, drop out of school, then live in poverty for the rest of your life?

Trust me, I've lived 'in poverty' (under 15,000 dollars of income) for most of my life. It's not that big of a deal, and it's easy enough to get by. Most people who live in poverty made all the wrong decisions in life and are living with the consequences.

*GASP* A COUNTRY THAT MAKES YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.

NEVER.
D E A T H
2005-11-16, 8:46 AM #14
It's a helluva lot better than throwing money at countries that will never pay it back and never seem to improve.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2005-11-16, 10:41 AM #15
Originally posted by tinny:
Would you rather spend 10 bucks to feed one homeless american man that gave up or rather spend the 10 bucks to feed a couple third world families who are struggling much more?

You act like those other families deserve to be the burden of american tax payers.
omnia mea mecum porto
2005-11-16, 11:06 AM #16
A certain amount always is good to give, I mean no one criticized Europe for giving aid to Africa or other countries for giving aid to America during Katrina. Besides there always be a 10% level poverty in any country because that is how poverty is pretty much defined, those 10% at the low end of society no matter how rich they are. Take the average "poor" person from here and he'll live like a king in any third world country. We have some of the lowest unemployment rate around, pushing that to a smaller percentage would take a huge amount of money that would be much better spent in aid on those who are trying harder.
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2005-11-16, 12:53 PM #17
Then people wilth extra money can give their extra money. The argument here is that taxes should be used to aid the people within a country.
Pissed Off?
2005-11-16, 1:14 PM #18
If they're so concerned about American citizens being "abused" then why don't THEY give US money instead of vice-versa. I really really really hope this nation withdrawls from the U.N. It's a bankrupt organization of both moral and practice. The U.N. is no longer about nations united to help the betterment of humankind. It's now a front for the "we hate the United States" bunch.
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2005-11-16, 2:09 PM #19
Originally posted by JediGandalf:
If they're so concerned about American citizens being "abused" then why don't THEY give US money instead of vice-versa. I really really really hope this nation withdrawls from the U.N. It's a bankrupt organization of both moral and practice. The U.N. is no longer about nations united to help the betterment of humankind. It's now a front for the "we hate the United States" bunch.


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D E A T H
2005-11-16, 2:15 PM #20
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]So what, we should take care of those fools who make the wrong decisions, drop out of school, then live in poverty for the rest of your life?

Trust me, I've lived 'in poverty' (under 15,000 dollars of income) for most of my life. It's not that big of a deal, and it's easy enough to get by. Most people who live in poverty made all the wrong decisions in life and are living with the consequences.

*GASP* A COUNTRY THAT MAKES YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.

NEVER.[/QUOTE]


Not all poor people are responsible for their on poverty. Your example fails.
2005-11-16, 2:17 PM #21
Originally posted by Rob:
Not all poor people are responsible for their on poverty. Your example fails.


There's always going to be exceptions, that's implied. But for the most part, they are. Trust me, I have lived in poverty most of my life, I know most of these people, and it's an age old saying--poor people will always be poor no matter how much money you give them.
D E A T H
2005-11-16, 3:19 PM #22
Originally posted by JediGandalf:
If they're so concerned about American citizens being "abused" then why don't THEY give US money instead of vice-versa. I really really really hope this nation withdrawls from the U.N. It's a bankrupt organization of both moral and practice. The U.N. is no longer about nations united to help the betterment of humankind. It's now a front for the "we hate the United States" bunch.

I completely agree. The U.S. foots half the U.N.'s bill, and they turn around and make a statement like this. It's as if they want us to leave them high-and-dry.
omnia mea mecum porto
2005-11-16, 3:32 PM #23
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi] it's an age old saying--poor people will always be poor no matter how much money you give them.[/QUOTE]


very true.
2005-11-16, 4:26 PM #24
ISn't new orleneans [sp] ya know... all.... Destroyed?
2005-11-16, 4:37 PM #25
Originally posted by Tiberium_Empire:
ISn't new orleneans [sp] ya know... all.... Destroyed?


No the Moron governor or mayor (can't remember) decided to let people back in so that they could get sick and die.
2005-11-16, 5:53 PM #26
The welfare system is being abused and taken advantage of in a lot of ways (like people take 6 months off with unemployment and then get back on the job . . . ). A good many Americans are at fault for their own status, but at the same time it's not America's duty to save the world from poverty, especially with taxpayers' money.

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