Whoever did this really knows his stuff.


http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051009/NEWS01/510090392


I'm amazed he even knew about the German psychologist they talk about in this.

Wait wait wait wait wait... so people would actually do that stuff to someone else because "a cop told them to" without even verifying that it was the police on the other end? Dumbasses.

Oh, and the guy that perpetrated it is a jerk too. But at least he's not an idiot.

Let's not act too superior yet.

65% of all participants in the Milgram obedience studies were willing to give lethal shocks to an innocent, helpless victim just because some random dude in a white coat told them too. Check out these experiments, and maybe read up on My Lai as well. Remember, man is still 90+% the pre-conscious beast he once was. This article may seem really weird, but all in all it isn't too surprising.

You can get away with anything if you do it authoritatively enough. I'm an inquisitive ****er myself, so inspired by the Milgram experiments I tested this theory out during my exams.

I dropped my pencil on purpose during the examination, and asked my teacher, who was doing surveillance, standing 10 meters away from me, if she could pick it up. Now this doesn't really make sense. All I have to do is duck and I could pick it up myself. But she came over, picked it up, gave it to me, and only then she realized the stupidity of the situation and laughed at it.

I'm full of interesting stories. Try it yourself - I make science fun!

Point is, this is the way people work. There's is more law in human behavior than you think (although it's expressed more in probability than in certainty, like in chemistry or the non-quantum physics)

I wonder, am I lecturing too much lately? If it's annoying, I'll stop...

According to social psychology, those are two different effects. Dropping the pencil is an example of the peripheral route of persuasion. There was a study, where in a line at a copy machine, an experimenter was able to cut to the front with the excuse, that he had to make copies. It's certainly not a law, though, and not everyone is tricked so easily.

The Milgram experiment is about authority, and how one can ignore personal responsibility when a figure of power is present to assume it instead.

Of course, psychology is a complete psuedo-science, especially the diagnostic aspect of it.

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Ok so this guy got a young girl to strip?isn't that like.. ilegal??
[Oh and he can rot]

You could see it as that, but it's kind of fuzzy as an example. It definitely isn't the central route anyway.



Really? If I recall correctly, 94% of all people complied to the completely useless bit of reasoning.



That's not true at all, although I definitely see where you're coming from. Its inherent incertainty is why I'm not doing it anymore. Its value as a descriptive science is enormous and very very scientific. But a lot of it falls short as an explaining science, I agree. I feel we need to shift back to an evolutionary paradigm as an explanation. That's why, if I had to recommend one branch of psychology to anyone, that I feel encompasses everything else, it would be sociobiology.

I understand your frustration partially, but just don't base your view of it on the books you find in your local shop under the name 'psychology'. Like 'ten cool ways to align your karma with Jupiter' or 'how to pick up chicks like a pro'.

And isn't impersonating a cop illegal too?

Wow. I didn't know people could change so much under such authority.

The Milgrim study is oen scary piece of work. It's amazing what we'll do under the threat of authority.

I propose a (rather dumb) experiment where a member here will get a chance to be admin if he/she is willing to ban 10 "innocent" active members here. Probably it wouldn't work because you people are overly greedy.

You didn't notice the sudden drop in users and increase in admins?

Your lack of morals digust me Wolfy!

Oh that wasn't Wolfy...

*evil cackle*

Ogborn should be imprisoned for stupidity. If that caller told him to jump off a bridge, I'm pretty sure he would do it.

So he sodomized the girl? Man.

Reads more like she did it to him

what a messed up guy. he should rot

...I don't even know what to say about that. Ugh.

What the ****?

I'm a little confused though. So this guy goes into all this trouble to get people to do all that and he can't even see what they are doing while he's jerking off?

Seems like he's getting ripped off. With this kind of persuasion powers you could get a lot more real stuff done.

Maybe reading the articles in the newspapers brings a smile to his face. I assume these incidents aren't small news events.

Jerking off at newspapers? Gee, Playboy would work better

holy ****.