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MPA Moves against Lyric and Tab sites
2005-12-14, 8:21 AM #1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm

Quote:
MPA president Lauren Keiser said he wanted site owners to be jailed.

He said unlicensed guitar tabs and song scores were widely available on the internet but were "completely illegal".

Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective".




Yea, that makes sense. Totally.
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2005-12-14, 8:25 AM #2
I can be logical too! Watch!

If you shut down the tab sites, no one will be able to learn how to play guitar, and then you won't have any music stars in the future, and the music industry will die!

Except for rap. Damn.
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2005-12-14, 8:36 AM #3
Tabs are just derivatives of the works. Very few tabs on the 'net are 100% accurate, so you might as well claim that it's an entirely different song. Or your interpretation of a song and how it should sound. Plus, nobody that writes tabs is passing off the songs as their own. Music and movie industries need to grow up.
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2005-12-14, 8:44 AM #4
OK, wait, wtf? Are they going to start copyrighting a certain way to soap your surfboard? Drive your car? Can you claim rights over a writing style?

Seriously, people are annoyingly selfish.
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2005-12-14, 8:44 AM #5
old news... but still a serious WTF
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2005-12-14, 8:56 AM #6
RIAA Bans Telling Friends About Songs
2005-12-14, 9:03 AM #7
I'm generally against the sharing of music, but...well, this seems just silly. Guitar tabs don't hurt a person's income. At all.
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2005-12-14, 9:06 AM #8
Silly americans, always being silly
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2005-12-14, 9:28 AM #9
Originally posted by JediKirby:
OK, wait, wtf? Are they going to start copyrighting a certain way to soap your surfboard? Drive your car? Can you claim rights over a writing style?

Seriously, people are annoyingly selfish.


True.

Music itself should be accessible to everyone. Something that is non-tangible should be availble for people to listen to/play.
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2005-12-14, 9:35 AM #10
Technically music is tangible.

Especially in this case since they are referring to "illegally composed" music.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2005-12-14, 9:57 AM #11
Bet the next thing is cover bands, it'll be illegal to perform other's music, too. ****ing nazis
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2005-12-14, 10:03 AM #12
All the sites I go to plainly say that the document presented is the indivdual's interpretation of the artist's work. Funny thing is it seems like it's just the labels getting mad, not bands. I still propose a company that allows the musicians themselves to decide what happens to their work. Also be a damn good way to get rid of the cursed Kid's Bop crap. Who had the bright idea for little kids to sing songs with explicit lyrics(3DD, 'When I'm Gone' for one, there's others I can't think of)?

RIAA: OMFG he said a song title, we should burn him! :rolleyes:

I hope to God and any other higher beings that Wuss' article was a fake...that's just insane.
2005-12-14, 10:05 AM #13
The Onion is a humor paper haha, only joke articles there.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2005-12-14, 10:07 AM #14
Wow, he answered...and used MBeggar...something's not right here...
2005-12-14, 10:10 AM #15
uh... what?
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2005-12-14, 10:11 AM #16
How... are... lyrics... illegal?
Pretty soon people who write transcripts of movies will get arrested:

"Yesterday, the LPD made one of the biggest lyric heists in the history of law enforcement. Early monday morning the police broke into these 4 homes in a suburb of LA. Authorities say that several suspects were arrested for possible lyric transcribing. Experts say that kids learn how to transcribe early, at ages as young as 8 and 9. Linkin Park, 50 Cent, and other famous artists are some of the first to be transcribed, where more advanced scribes will attempt Red Hot Chili Peppers, or even Nirvana.

'It's an epidemic' says Dr. Figson, expert on lyric transcribing. 'These criminals train eachother, practicing for hours, even taking enhancement drugs like Mountain Dew to improve their transcribing abilities"

JediKirby
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2005-12-14, 10:16 AM #17
Originally posted by JediKirby:
where more advanced scribes will attempt Red Hot Chili Peppers, or even Nirvana.



i nearly choked on a piece of candy after reading this
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2005-12-14, 10:49 AM #18
hahahahaha.
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2005-12-14, 10:50 AM #19
i think this is a good thing that will benefit everyone and will help us take another step towards utopian society.
2005-12-14, 11:30 AM #20
this is absurd. How exactly are RIAA, etc losing out from people distributing lyrics and tabs?
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2005-12-14, 12:37 PM #21
They're mad because getting the tabs on the internet sites keeps them from selling as many tab books in music stores.
Pissed Off?
2005-12-14, 12:44 PM #22
If it was copying a book, I'd agree that, yes, hands off, buck-a-rino. But if someone listens to the music and tabs it out themselves, then that's as legal as looking at a picture of the Mona Lisa and distributing your own rendition of it (without profit).
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2005-12-14, 12:55 PM #23
Originally posted by JediKirby:
OK, wait, wtf? Are they going to start copyrighting a certain way to soap your surfboard? Drive your car? Can you claim rights over a writing style?

Seriously, people are annoyingly selfish.



There are patents on how to swing on a swing and making a PB&J sandwich.
2005-12-14, 1:51 PM #24
Originally posted by Wolfy:
If it was copying a book, I'd agree that, yes, hands off, buck-a-rino. But if someone listens to the music and tabs it out themselves, then that's as legal as looking at a picture of the Mona Lisa and distributing your own rendition of it (without profit).



I know, just point out their point of view.
Pissed Off?
2005-12-14, 2:09 PM #25
Quote:
But if someone listens to the music and tabs it out themselves, then that's as legal as looking at a picture of the Mona Lisa and distributing your own rendition of it (without profit).
You could sell your painting for profit though.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2005-12-14, 2:27 PM #26
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
You could sell your painting for profit though.


Originally posted by Wolfy:
...distributing your own rendition of it (without profit) .


:p
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2005-12-14, 2:44 PM #27
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
You could sell your painting for profit though.



Except that isn't legal with out the artisit or the person who owns the rights' permission.
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2005-12-14, 2:55 PM #28
It's gonna be illegal to sing along with a song on the radio pretty soon.
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2005-12-14, 2:58 PM #29
I'm REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, scared guy! We just posted that Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer thread!

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2005-12-14, 3:41 PM #30
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2005-12-14, 4:48 PM #31
Everything is becoming owned and copyrighted, and there seems to be no stopping point in the future. It's absurd. And an extremely slippery slope.
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2005-12-14, 6:34 PM #32
I could care less if tab sites are shut down. All the bass tabs I've ever seen sucked so bad, it's shameful they're on the internet.
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2005-12-14, 9:08 PM #33
I don't think MPA will win if they get a ton of opposition. They are on blurry lines.
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2005-12-14, 9:23 PM #34
Originally posted by JediKirby:
How... are... lyrics... illegal?
Pretty soon people who write transcripts of movies will get arrested:

"Yesterday, the LPD made one of the biggest lyric heists in the history of law enforcement. Early monday morning the police broke into these 4 homes in a suburb of LA. Authorities say that several suspects were arrested for possible lyric transcribing. Experts say that kids learn how to transcribe early, at ages as young as 8 and 9. Linkin Park, 50 Cent, and other famous artists are some of the first to be transcribed, where more advanced scribes will attempt Red Hot Chili Peppers, or even Nirvana.

'It's an epidemic' says Dr. Figson, expert on lyric transcribing. 'These criminals train eachother, practicing for hours, even taking enhancement drugs like Mountain Dew to improve their transcribing abilities"

JediKirby

That was terribly witty, and equally humorous.

/me gives kirbs the 2005 Satirist Award
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