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[this is a historic occasion because it is the first time I have used that smiley in 4 years]

Mmm... sounds like a good time to use some of these

I give them three months before Israel stops their nuclear program once and for all...

I don't think he's particularly interested in what the Western world thinks, he's just playing to his constituency basically. On top of that it'll go down well with a lot of other middle-eastern countries particularly those bordering Israel. Just seems like political maneuvering more than anything else, although the holocaust denial did seem pretty retarded.

I've got to admit to being quite ignorant on the creation of modern Israel but he does have a bit of a point: from the Palestinian point of view it's not really fair being turfed out because of European problems.

It also seems CNN missed out the part of the AP article where he criticises the US for refusing to sell them things like spare parts for aircraft, resulting in US-made aircraft crashing and killing hundreds of civilians. And Iran is expected to trust the west to send them enriched uranium for their nuclear power plants? I can understand why they're insistent on enriching it themselves, of course then it gets everyone elses knickers in a twist because the process can be used to create nuclear weaponry.

Agreed. Let's just finally take over the Middle East and be done with it.

I don't really take a guy seriously when he looks like a modern Jedi...

Pommy, you just mentioned Hitler and Nazis... you automatically lose whatever argument you were trying to make....

The man is insane, but there is some truth in this remark:



and what about this?



True, but what's the next chapter? Another 'war to prevent a war'? Another 'rogue regime' that needs to be removed from office by the almighty holy liberator of the middle east himself , mister G.W.?

Apparently Alaska and the United States are two separate political entities.

"Adolf Hitler cares about Jewish people."

Maybe he also feels for the plight of the Alaskans, suddenly finding themselves forcibly changed from Russians to Americans in 1867. :p

I wasn't trying to make an argument :p

I'm not suprised by this, in the least.

That's when you use the Hitler card as a premise or example for your argument. Pommy wasn't making an argument. You lose. Again.

When did the US and Alaska "burned Jews"?

I've never liked Iran(ians).

Oh, you mean the military aircraft that were provided to the former U.S.-backed government, the ones that haven't been getting spare parts since that government was over thrown? Yeah, those aircraft? Gee, let's think about this. You're operating 40+ year old aircraft without spare parts and then complain when you can't keep them in the air? Gee...surprise surprise. Maybe they should have kept them grounded like we told them to.

thats all i have to say! this guy isso absurd on so many levels!!! its agravating! its mind boggling! its...its...

When did Palestine?

This thread is making me laugh.

Ofcourse that's not my point.

All I'm saying is, why did they take the land from the people of Palestine when the western countries created the land Israel? They should never have done that. Just look at the result.

I think it'd actually be cheeper to relocate them to the moon.

Orrrrr... you could relocate the moon to them!

Problem solved!

You're a genius!

Oh, noes!

Bah... stupid NJO.

kyle's solution probably has a better chance of actually working, in any case.

That's a good question, you should ask the U.K., they did it.

My history teacherin high school told us that after the war, when they were trying to figure out where to put this new country of Israel, they had a choice between Plaestine on some place in south eastern africa (I forget which country). I imagine it would have created less havok if they'd chosen Africa

Hmm, there wasn't a sizable Palestinian population after the Jews moved back in. The majority of the Palestinians you hear of these days are descendants of immigrants that moved in when Jews were opening up jobs for them.

I think Israel should be split up and every citizen be moved back to his/her grandparents' country of origin, and the land be given to Palestinians. Then I suggest all Americans be moved back to their family's country of origin, and the land be given back to Native Americans. Lastly, I suggest all Europeans return to Africa and give the land back to the Neanderthals.

Uh, why shouldn't the Pelestinians be moved back? It's entirely debatable as to wether Hebrews or Arabs were in Israel/Palestine first.

Why shouldn't the Native Americans be moved back? Where did they come from? Probably Asian and Eurasia.

I have nothing to say about Neanderthals, as they are all quite at home on this forum.

Impi, a little New Jedi Order in there?

Thank you. My point exactly.

This "Holocaust is a myth" thing is actually quite a common among mindless anti-semitic groups. It's a well known fact that people will believe whatever they want, regardless of evidence at hand.

I have a joke:

exactully.. like many people in this country dont blelieve that we went to the moon, even though over-welming evidance says it happoned.

I so vote in favour of kyle90's solution.

Antisemitism was rampant throughout the world before, during, and after WW2. Everybody knew what the Nazis were doing way before WW2 even started - and they didn't care. Prior to WW2, Canada and the US routinely turned away ships carrying Jewish refugees knowing full well that they'd be slaughtered if they landed in the old world again.

The claim that we went to war because of the holocaust is historical revisionism to make the Allies seem almost angelic by comparison, in spite of the fact that the United States and Canada participated in or benefited from the most horrifying parts of WW2. (Don't worry though, that doesn't include the parts that involve the Jewish people.)

Israel was created because no other country wanted the Jews. Europe used force to carve them out a new home where they would be free from tyranny and from controlling European commerce.

And that's your editorialized history lesson for today.


Edit: Kyle90 - I know that was a joke, but it doesn't "count". You see, God's chosen people - the people who are entitled to the Promised Land - are Hebrew. The Bible indicates that the Jewish people believed their captivity and enslavement by the Babylonians was a punishment from God and they were no longer entitled to the Hebrew name. However, more likely Babylon forbade their slaves and lower castes from retaining a cultural identity.
Either way, there might have been no Palestinians back then, but there are no Hebrew today. Christians have as much right to claim Israel as the Jewish and Muslims.

[QUOTE=Squirrel King]Impi, a little New Jedi Order in there? :)[/QUOTE]

No, what made you think so?