Today is the 60th anniversary of that frightening day, June 6th, 1944..., take this time to remember those thought fought and even died for us, the world wouldn't be the same without them...

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[This message has been edited by -Monoxide- (edited June 06, 2004).]

glorious? There was nothing glorious about D-day. This isn't a day of pride. It's a day of humility.

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Hush, your destroying the mood.

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humility? How so?

Indeed. Events like this put the human race to shame. Not that it wasn't already shameful.

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Let's all have a commemoratory screening of Saving Private Ryan

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I vito that.

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But do you veto it?

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<ubuu> does hitler have a last name?
<jipe> .. yes, Ubuu, we're racist commy nazi jews, and we hate male pattern baldness
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I move we watch Band of Brothers instead, because it's a lot better than Saving Private Ryan.

I devito that

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"Just remember -- No matter how bad things get, Northern Minnesota will always be there"
-- Garrison Keeler

Yes, it just puts the human race to shame that there were nations who stood up to the scum of the planet. How humiliating.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

Shut up Horn! Man, I wish those men never had to die for ungrateful slobs like you. I can't belive that men died to save people like you.
Those men gave their lives so you could slander them? They were freeing euorpe from Natzi tyriny! Whish we could trade your life for thiers.

[This message has been edited by Obi_Kwiet (edited June 06, 2004).]

Hes not saying that these people are bad people. He is saying the whole war in general was a bad thing.

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"Just remember -- No matter how bad things get, Northern Minnesota will always be there"
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Or he's saying there's nothing glorious about thousands of people being mowed down en masse by machine guns. Get off your reactionary trip, Obi.

[This message has been edited by Ictus (edited June 06, 2004).]

Maybe it wasn't the prettiest job on Earth but it had to happen and I'm proud of and greatful for the people who did it. It is certainly not a day of humility.

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Do you have stairs in your house?

Well it depends on what he means. Does he mean that it was bad that we fought that war? Or that is was bad that we HAD to fight the war. Big deffrence. I just can't stand it when people insult people that died to save them. If your not insulting them or thier cause, I take it back.

This didnt put the human race to shame. 40 years ago, they gave their lives to defeat nazi germany because they were doing something horrible. how the hell does bringing justice to the wicked bring shame to humanity?

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QUICK!! ACTIVATE FLAME SHIELDS NOWWW!!!!

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Indeed. They say war is for peace correct? Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. War just leads to more war, so starting them is probably the WORST thing you could do. As far as I can tell, there are war mongering types, and those who want peace and are disgraced by their country participating. Kieran Horn is one of the later, and as am I.

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"A tiger? In Africa?!"

"True as toasted toads!"

Yes, war only leads to more war. We should have let Germany take over France and Russia etc in World War I, then World War II would never have happened. By god, he's on to something!

Right, so if we had just let Hitler march over every square inch of land and claim it as his own, it would have been a much more peaceful resolve?
(blasted internet connection is dying, slowed my post submition down! )

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[This message has been edited by Correction (edited June 06, 2004).]

Why anyone is talking about a) the starting of the war or b) wether or not the war should have been fought is confusing me.

we're talking about d-day. not about the start of WW2. hitler decided to start taking over europe, killing people for no reason at all, and genrally pissing people off. thats why there was an interference, and the fact that so many people died to stop hitler is VERY glorious. it's not a matter of the start of the war, it was the start of the push to stop the war.

blah. d-day didnt start a war. it was already started. we tried to end it. blah.

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So... You would just let your country be taken over by an forceful invader?

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[This message has been edited by Sol (edited June 06, 2004).]

I wonder where all the surviving Nazi soldiers are today, or if they turn up this commemoration.

Sooo let me get this straight from some of you. The mass invasion of France 60 years ago this day that pretty much sealed Germany's fate and ending the Nazi regime was a bad thing?

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Here I was thinking we could have at least one civilized thread dedicated to the memory of fallen soldiers. I'm not saying I'm better than the lot of you, and to prove I'm not, I will say this:

I met a NAZI member last night. Only after battering him in a violent manner (which battering tends to be) with a dolphin bone did I find out he was protesting for animal rights on behalf of the North American Zoological Institution.

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If you can read this, you need better glasses.

There probably aren't too many Nazis left. There are plenty of German military regulars still out there. Big difference.

War being good or bad should not take away what these people did on June 6th, 1944 and the year after. I've got a feeling that some of ou don't understand what the individuals went through and I suggest you educate your selves on such things. Then, you might have a little more respect for what happened, regardless of your views on war. Ambrose's books on WWII (Band of Brothers, Citizen Soldiers and D-Day would be a great place to start).

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

What gets my goat is when people cannot understand the difference between not supporting our troops and not supporting a war.

That's what I'm talking about. How is saying that war is bad is in anyway incorrect and or disrespectful to those fighting in them? And I'm sorry for this, but every time I hear "I can't believe they have to die for ungrateful *******s like you!!!!" I immediately block out that person and consider them an intellectual moron.

[EDIT: And yes I've got to say that running up that beach had to take a crapload of either stupidity or courage.]

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[This message has been edited by Axle (edited June 06, 2004).]

like avenger said there is a big difference between a nazi and a german soldier



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LONG LIVE DREAMCAST!!!

So what your trying to say is, the Nazis were all nuts, right?

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Do you have stairs in your house?

It's pretty obvious this thread was started as one of rememberance, so let's keep it that way. If you want to argue the justification for D-Day, fine, but start a new thread and don't hijack this one.

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If you people would read my post, I said STARTING wars leads to more wars. Which is WHY Hitler was foiled, and such. Because he started a war, and wars involve the whole world.

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"A tiger? In Africa?!"

"True as toasted toads!"

You realise that the nazi soldiers were just following orders? and that only the generals and officers knew about concentration camps and the other bad stuff?

The point i'm trying to make is that we should be remembering those who died on both sides.

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Yes, a day of rememberance. And they had no choice but to follow orders from corrupt power. When you put the uniform of a soilders on. Your not only taking orders but defending your country every secound.

So for the love of god. Stop this flameing. Get along, meet a vet and be thankfull.

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/me takes a moment of silence for the soldiers that died on D-day. Both sides.

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Yah that's retarded, remembering the German regulars. We kind of killed them. No matter how PC you wanna be, that's just one of the stupidest things I've heard in a long time.

I'm remembering the soldiers that died for OUR country (Yes, our country. While we were never in BIG trouble, we were threatened by the fact that 1. Japan was after our western flank and 2. If Hitler took Europe, guess whose door he'd be knockin on.)on June 6, 1944. Why? Because they were fighting for their homeland, fighting for our freedoms, fighting for the freedoms of people they didn't even know. Why should I remember those that were trying to kill them, whether they knew the other soldiers were on the side of right or not? And if you get into a debate with me on "what's really right", you can spend your finger energy on something more constructive, like slitting your throat and getting rid of the idiot part of the gene pool.

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Oh my god. Everyone, just stop speaking for me. Obi_Kwiet, I'll excuse your outburst because you are new here and haven't seen me post before.

Today is not a day to say "Yeah! We kicked Germanies *** and D-day was the start of it!" Today is the day to remember the sacrifice of those soldiers. Today is not a day for celebration. Today is and should be for everyone a very sad and remorseful day. Tens of thousands of soldiers died storming those beaches and their memory should not be soiled by exclamations of "Yeah, we kick ***!" They gave their life not only for their nation, but for several nations. They gave the ultimate sacrifice and that should be commended and their bravery honored, but celebrating their deaths is a horrible thing to do. Be happy for what they did for you and others, not that they died. Giving your life as they did is a honorable action, not a happy one. If it was a happy and glorious thing to do, then the meaning of "hero" would be meaningless. Being a hero means doing what you have to even though it isn't glorious, safe, easy, happy, or forseeably rewarding for the sake of others.

Humility means being humbled, not humiliated.

Why is it every time I say something even half way profound, I have to draw a picture of it in crayon in order for people here to understand it? Am I really that confusing?

Monoxide, thanks for editing your first post so I now look like a retard. Much appreciated.

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Yoshi, shut the hell up. Not all german soldiers were jewish burning Nazis, just like not all American soldiers were deranged racists against blacks which was pretty damn popular back then. Of course they were trying to kill our soldiers, because they were fighting to the death for what they believed in(which was more being pissed about the Treaty of Varseille than hating jews), just like what our soldiers were doing. They weren't Hitler clones.

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[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited June 06, 2004).]

Bam.

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