I'm sick of meth. I'm sick of the talk of it, sick of the smell of it (yes, it does have an odor), sick of the sight of it, sick of people being on it and crying for more. I just lost a friend to it. This guy is a good guy, nice, fun to be around, and has a great future with his wrestling scholarship, not to mention the fact that he's not at all stupid. However, he's let drugs take over his life.

Every weekend, and most nights you see him he's ****ed up on something. For a while it was pills, and he kicked that, now he's gotten into tweak. See, being a wrestler, he's of course required to make weight, and that **** lets you lose it so fast (a friend lost 10 pounds in 2 days), that he'd use it just to keep weight. Now it's obviously for more than that. The kid's got a problem, and I can tell, hell even the friends that will do it with him once in a while can tell, and agree with me. The only two people that I know that don't think he's addicted are him and a friend of mine, who I may just lose because of this **** as well.

So I've been mentioning lately that I think he has a problem, and have gotten mostly agreement from people who know him, though not so much from some people. Tonight, on AIM of all places (guess he couldn't get up the balls to at least call me, or wait until we saw each other) he confronts me about it, and I stand my ground. I tell him I think he's got a problem, and him and everyone else in this town needs to quit before it ****s up his life. I told him I'm sick of the ****, sick of it all. He just basically tells me to "get my **** straight" and that I shouldn't talk to him the next time I see him. Basically, we're not friends anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have so few friends that this is a big blow to me, but still, it just shows you that he's wrong. If he's willing to defriend me because I said he's got a problem with that ****, he obviously does. Hopefully this at least shows him that.

Right now, though, I'm pissed, depressed, and just need to get this out. I've never lost a friend to drugs before--come close, but never quite have. These guys don't realize they're not messing with weed and liquor anymore. They're messing with hard-*** drugs.

*********.

I dunno what to say.

Friends come and go. That's all I can say.

Meth is really becoming a bad problem around here as well, although I've never known anyone who did it.

That sucks man, hope he realizes his problem.

pwned

[QUOTE=Mr. Stafford]pwned by meth[/QUOTE]
Fixed.

I don't want to start a fight or anything, and not to sound like a jerk, but didn't you just post in the New Years thread that you were 'rolling balls' a.k.a. taking ecstasy? Ecstasy kills some people the first time they take it, and it is considered a dangerous drug. Hell, any drug is considered dangerous. I mean it really sucks about your friend, and I hope everything turns out okay, but 'the pot calling the kettle black' comes to mind.

Anyway, if you really want to get him to quit and get his life back on track, try showing him some of the horrible things meth can do. I hope this helps: http://www.lifeormeth.org/ If nothing goes through to him, you should tell the police or his parents or a doctor or SOMEONE. Because even if you feel like you are backstabbing a friend, you are still saving his life.

E is like chewing gum compared to that ****.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]I don't want to start a fight or anything, and not to sound like a jerk, but didn't you just post in the New Years thread that you were 'rolling balls' a.k.a. taking ecstasy? Ecstasy kills some people the first time they take it, and it is considered a dangerous drug. Hell, any drug is considered dangerous. I mean it really sucks about your friend, and I hope everything turns out okay, but 'the pot calling the kettle black' comes to mind.

Anyway, if you really want to get him to quit and get his life back on track, try showing him some of the horrible things meth can do. I hope this helps: http://www.lifeormeth.org/ If nothing goes through to him, you should tell the police or his parents or a doctor or SOMEONE. Because even if you feel like you are backstabbing a friend, you are still saving his life.[/QUOTE]
Ecstasy kills nobody the first time they take it if it's pure MDMA. It never is though. The other components that may/may not be in it might harm people, but unless you get dehydrated (I had 5-6 24oz bottles of water, I think I did good) you're not going to die. Though the irony was that the e I took was speed based. And no, not any drug is dangerous. Stop trying to start a flamewar. And I'm not the pot, and he's not the kettle. He does meth 5-6 times a week, and usually in large quantities. I've done it 3 times in my life. There's a huge, huge difference here.

Thanks spe.

Meth is a huge problem here too.

Don't just let his life get ruined.

You did the right thing, Yoshi.

I can guarantee half the kids that go to my school will end up addicted to some kind of drug.

For the record: Weed isn't a gateway drug. Unless you yourself are an addictive person, weed is NOT a gateway drug. I repeate: WEED IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG.

That's the one misinformation that NEEDS to be corrected. Someone who does weed can live a normal social life and not regress into a druggie. I'm not condoning weed in any way shape or form, but I'm also not going to let people make false accusations so that blame can be shifted from users to drugs.

Sorry, that was somewhat off topic, but good god, I hate that misinformation.

I've done weed on and off for the last three years, and I've still got a 3.3, I got a 27 (first time) on my ACT WITH writing portion. I consider myself a good student. Weed doesn't mean anything, honestly.

It's once you go past weed into the land of pills, lines, and other **** I don't want to think about that you start ****ing yourself up.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Ecstasy kills nobody the first time they take it if it's pure MDMA. It never is though. The other components that may/may not be in it might harm people, but unless you get dehydrated (I had 5-6 24oz bottles of water, I think I did good) you're not going to die. Though the irony was that the e I took was speed based. And no, not any drug is dangerous. Stop trying to start a flamewar. And I'm not the pot, and he's not the kettle. He does meth 5-6 times a week, and usually in large quantities. I've done it 3 times in my life. There's a huge, huge difference here.

Thanks spe.[/QUOTE]

I read this, and all I comprehend is "Stupid stupid stupid".

All drugs are dangerous, that's why they're flippin' banned.

As far as I am concerned, you lose all credibility with this statement. Every time you take E, you gamble your life away. Dehydration is not the only threat, it is merely one way of dying from it. The fact that Ecstasy raises your body temperature to extreme levels is another killer. Despite your efforts to drink as much water as possible, your body can still overheat quite easily on the drug, for two main reasons: When under the effects, you have no perception of temperature. And you are constantly moving. So bam, you hit 108F, your body stops clotting properly, and you bleed to death.

But ah, what the hell do I know? http://ecstasy.org/books/e4x/e4x.ch.06.html

(Only one of many references of this)

Weed affects different people in different ways. I know people who smoke weed and are considered good students and good people. I know other people who smoke weed all the time and are morons. They are slow, and they barley know whats going on most of the time, and they always have that look that a deer has looking into the headlights of a car. You'd swear that they were about to drool on themselves. Weed can TOTALLY ruin people, but then again it can totally NOT ruin people. Weed is a sneaky Mutha' F***er.

I think it comes down to who you are anyway. Those idiots are brilliant before weed, and when they're not doing weed, right? I didn't think so.

I don't want to sound like an ***, but I have no sympathy for anyone who gets ****ed up using meth.

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Sorry, had to be said.

Because you know everything about weed right? I don't either, but YES one of my close friends (well, he was a close friend) Was an average student (B average) and he started hanging out with a bunch of other friends who always smoked weed, now I don't even know where he lives, because he started to just not care about anything, he became lazy and he dropped out of school. Now he's a loser, beacuse of WEED. Yes weed. The drug that doesn't harm anyone. For craps sake, shut up. Weed is dangerous, even if you don't think it is. It IS a gateway drug for SOME people, and it does make people morons. Another kid at my school smokes pot almost every day and he has a 23 in math and a 14 in english....a FOURTEEN!

I am sick of how taxpayer dollars go to substance education and the War on Drugs, but dumb f***s still ignore the right messages from day 1 anyway. Then they create trauma for themselves, family and friends, and society as a whole. People need to learn personal responsibility. Such drugs ARE DANGEROUS. Don't take a chance and think you're cool because of it.

Yeah for ranting.

I've contemplated the extermination of drug abusers on several occasions and that scares me.

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]I read this, and all I comprehend is "Stupid stupid stupid".

All drugs are dangerous, that's why they're flippin' banned.

As far as I am concerned, you lose all credibility with this statement. Every time you take E, you gamble your life away. Dehydration is not the only threat, it is merely one way of dying from it. The fact that Ecstasy raises your body temperature to extreme levels is another killer. Despite your efforts to drink as much water as possible, your body can still overheat quite easily on the drug, for two main reasons: When under the effects, you have no perception of temperature. And you are constantly moving. So bam, you hit 108F, your body stops clotting properly, and you bleed to death.

But ah, what the hell do I know? http://ecstasy.org/books/e4x/e4x.ch.06.html

(Only one of many references of this)[/QUOTE]

Haha, you think you're so damned informed. And it's funny, because you're not.

E has many different theoretical bases, drugs they throw in there to make it feel more intense. You could base it on almost anything, but the popular ones are Coke, Speed, Heroin and Ketamine. Now, the first two will make you feel up, and make you want to go and make your body temperature rise quite a bit, though not dramatically (trust me, I took my temp and I was only 102 after running for about 8 blocks...don't ask :p). It is interesting though. The second two don't have nearly this effect. They make you feel down, but at the same time happy, and you still have some energy. Speed is, of course, the most popular base since it complements MDMA so well, but it's not the only one out there. Be educated on what you're doing, try (as hard as you can) to be educated on what you're taking, and you'll be fine. Of course, I'd never trust e at a club or anything--I took it merely because I wanted to feel good on New Years Eve, the guy who got it told me it was some decent stuff (ended up being crappy I guess...but I was still loving it, probably because it was my first time) and I trusted him. Now, you can never know for sure what you're taking, but I didn't see any reason to distrust him since he had taken some and said he loved it. Other people I knew that night were rolling on some heroin-based stuff, and you could tell. They were smiling a lot, but not moving a lot.

Now...SAJN, this is true only if you have an addictive personality and will do anything for the drug. That's stupid, but weed is nonaddictive and it's wholly up to the individual how they react to it. One thing I do fairly guarantee though is that they've probably not limited themselves to just weed. If they're ****ing up that bad, and they got that far off course, I'd be surprised if our friend Mary Jane was the only culprit.

So basically you just gambled your life on the fact that the ecstacy was clean.

Do you even read what you write?

[QUOTE=Cool Matty]So basically you just gambled your life on the fact that the ecstacy was clean.

Do you even read what you write?[/QUOTE]
Yes, and yes.

Well, I feel somewhat bad for him and how his life has turned. The ones who are full of themselves are the ones who need to most help.

I dont do drugs. Just weed.

Which is still a drug.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Because you know everything about weed right? I don't either, but YES one of my close friends (well, he was a close friend) Was an average student (B average) and he started hanging out with a bunch of other friends who always smoked weed, now I don't even know where he lives, because he started to just not care about anything, he became lazy and he dropped out of school. Now he's a loser, beacuse of WEED. Yes weed. The drug that doesn't harm anyone. For craps sake, shut up. Weed is dangerous, even if you don't think it is. It IS a gateway drug for SOME people, and it does make people morons. Another kid at my school smokes pot almost every day and he has a 23 in math and a 14 in english....a FOURTEEN![/QUOTE]

I'm more than willing to bet he drank alcohol when doing weed, and also was going through life changes at the same time. Weed effects everyone differently, which means that it's up to the PERSON, NOT the drug.

JediKirby

And Vic, for the last time, stop trying to incite a flamewar.

Some people are simply irresponsible. I know a guy who smoked weed, noticed that his grades were slipping, and dropped weed like the bad habit that it was. I know other guys who do just fine and smoke weed.

My personal take on it: nothing against people who smoke weed. Just don't smoke it around me (or on my property, as that can get our lease terminated and us thrown out on the street). If it requires me to leave a party, I politely excuse and explain myself to the host and leave. If it shows up at a party I'm throwing, I politely ask the person to take it off my property.

I'd also like to address a beef I have with the latest anti-drug ads by the U.S. government that tell people to "rise above the influence." What a crock of ****. Instead of putting out ads that simply lead to elitist *******s who lord their lack of drugs over people who do drugs, why not simply make ads that present the facts?

It's an addictive substance. Some people can fight addictions, some people can't. Some people become addicted more easily than others, and some don't. Just because not everyone who uses it gets addicted, doesn't mean it isn't addictive by nature.

I agree that weed, if used responsibly, can be harmless. In that regard, it's much like alcohol; If you're careful, and smart about it, you'll be just fine. But to use that example to say that the substance itself is not dangerous isn't a fair, or valid, argument.

You can play with fire without hurting anything, if you're careful, but it's still dangerous by nature.

Dj Yoshi for the last time....stfu. I'm not trying to start a flamewar. The topic of Drugs does it on it's own.



Stop trying to use every excuse known to man to make weed look better. Yeah well I bet he was drinking, and I bet he was going through changes, and I bet he was already a stupid person, and I BET..... No, just stop. You don't know my friends, and I can bet you never will, and I can also bet that you have no idea what your talking about when you say weed is harmless. I'm sure the thousands of studies that scientists have done mean nothing. They only graduated from colleges, and studied drugs and their effects for YEARS, but what do they know?

It's not addictive physically. You can only get addicted to the feeling if you're a weak-minded, weak-willed person (and you have to be pretty damn weak since it's not the greatest thing in the world). Stop spreading misinformation.

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