Now they say that we have the freedom to say what we want, but is this really true so much as it is a passifier to make people feel better about themselves? Nationally, you generally cannot be placed in jail for making comments of any kind. But, in a private forum, it is frowned upon to speak your mind if it is not the popular opinion of the forum.

In the thread "Ronal Reagan Died" the general consensus of the forum was that it was a sad occasion, but I interjected my opinion that it is in no way any more of a mournful day than any other day due mainly to the fact that people die every day and don't get that kind of recognition. Also, I noted that I didn't particularly care for Mr. Reagan, and I was basically told that I was flat out wrong in my beliefs.

If someone were to post a thread saying they liked a particular movie, and someone else said "No, I didn't like that movie; I thought it sucked." And gave a few reasons for what they said, their opinion would be considered rediculous and wrong. Also is i in-fact wrong to discuss things in a discussion forum? Someone said they were sad about his death, because he was a good President. I said I was not said about his death because people dying does not upset me, and I thought he was a bad President. How am I wrong in doing so?

I'll tell you how. It is the hypocracy inherant in the administration of these boards. Discussion is permitted as long as no one that the administration agrees with is upset. But as soon as your conservative buddies get upset, it's time to raise hell.

But how does this all revert to unconstitutionality? Well I'll tell you that too. We (technically of course) are allowed to express our opinions on whatever we want; whenever we want. I was told not to do this. I think that just about explains it.

You thought Reagan was great. I thought he was a hack. Deal with it. He was a typical republican, and the world is better off without him. I don't mean to upset your happy little community here, but if you just want everyone to agree you should refer to these as the "consensus forums" and not the "discussion forum."

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

This thread.

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Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
:wq

Read the rules. This forum is not government regulated and involves people fromm outside the United States, so the constitution has no application here whatsoever.

Edit -- Also, it's pretty much a an unwritten rule that everyone should respect the intentions of the threads author, especially if asked to do so. Maybe I shouldn't say it's a rule, but it is something the admins enforce a bit using the last portion of the rules.


[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

What's with these long forum posts describing how much we suck lately?
Anyway, while i didn't read the whole thread it seemed that the whole thing degenerated into a flame war and I bet that's why it was closed. (And it's spelled 'pacify')

Actually, it was thread-hijacking. Some people came in and tried to change the thread into a debate, which is a no-no. Brian then unleashed his fury.

In Canada they have a thing called verbal assult. It's against the law to say something negative about someone else if they have a really big problem with it. The same goes for saying your mind over serious matters. I guess. I was bit by a really big bug in the woods, and my hands are numb and I feel like poop. I think I'm gonna pass out, so excuse my... er... vaugness.

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"A tiger? In Africa?!"

"True as toasted toads!"

Speech is limited in the US too. Especially using the phrase "clear and present danger" and the term "assault."

[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

First let me say thank you for the correction. Second let me say that maybe the forum needs to loosen up a little bit and allow people to speak their minds.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

So, speak your mind. Just do not flame, troll, or hijack threads.

The Reagan thread was closed because of hijacking. And don't think that the admins dislike liberals or anything. They just do what they do. And you could probably say I was just as responsible for it being closed as anyone else.


[This message has been edited by Morfildor (edited June 07, 2004).]

I'm of the opinion that the thread was about a death, not whether or not you think the deceased was great.

When you get to the point of criticizing the policies of his administation, you are expressing an opinion -which is fine- but you are also derailing the thread, which falls under the term "thread-jacking."

Sorry you were bothered, but when you are about to alter the subject matter so greatly, think about it and start a new thread about the Reagan administation.

There is also this thing called a proper time and place; it isn't looked upon as acceptable to disrespect the author of the thread who wanted nothing more than to notify the community of a celebrity's death, and to honor a man he admired.

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Steal my dreams and sell them back to me.....

^^^ What he said.

Unconstitutional - anything the president or congress don't like

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity (if we ever get there)

I only disagreed with what others had already expressed. They were not repremanded for saying they thought he was a wonderful president. Yet I was for saying the adverse. Hypocracy.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

Freedom of speach means you can speak out aginst the goverment and protest. Not that you can put 70' tall porn posters in your front yard.

Obi that comment was completely irrelevant.

And not to hi-jack my own thread, but what's wrong with porn anyway? To semi-quote George Carlin, who once said "If you don't covet your neighbor's wife what else are you gonna think about when you're waxin' your carrot?" Well, without porn, we would be left to our imaginations.

Now, THAT is an uncalled for statement, that warrents being repremanded. It could, and probably will be, considered highly offensive. What I said before should not be frowned upon at all.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

Unconsitiutional means that it breaks one of the laws of the consitution or its ammendments, as dictated by the Supream court,t he only branch with the ability to declare something unconstitutional (congress or the president can stop soemthing on constitutional grounds, but its not called 'unconstituional' then). ALso, the freedom of speach is in public grounds or where a private party says it is ok. on private property, which these boards happen to be (besides multi-national), the owner has full authority as to what you can and cannot say, and can throw you out if they feel that they don't like you, for whatever reason. that is why it is 'private property'. if these were a goverment run board, that would be very different. they're not, so stop *****ing.

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"No good can ever come from staying with normal people"
-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW
A Knight's Tail
Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark
The Never Ending Story²[/i]

You aren't making any sense any more. Thanks for playing.

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Frightening the very small and very old since 1952.

I didn't really follow the Regean thread all that much, so I don't know what happened, but I do know that the admins and mods do what they do to try to keep the forums civil. You have to keep in mind that they do have a fair amount of power in terms of the way the forums are run and that's just the way it is. They're regular people, just like the rest of us. Well, most of them are

Also, delivery has a lot to do with the way people respond to your post. To come into a thread and bluntly post something that is in the opposite flow of the thread is just going to start trouble. Basically, a thread about someone's death isn't the best place to start throwing you politcal views around

And finally, there is no conservative conspiracy on these Forums. There are far more liberal folks here than not.

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Yep, you said it. "Stop *****ing." That's what is needed here.

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I don't want your signature on the same page as mine. It's talking to my signature, and making it feel bad about itself.

No, *****ing can be perfectly fine in some cases. we have a rant thread at least once a week, and they don't even turn out too bad, from what i've seen. i was referring to the way you're *****ing about the fact that admins have control on a private, mulit-national board.

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"No good can ever come from staying with normal people"
-Outlaw Star
"Some people play tennis. I erode the human soul"
-Tycho, Penny Arcade
"I'm a Cannabal-Vegitarian. I will BBQ an employee if there is no veggie option"
-DX:IW
A Knight's Tail
Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark
The Never Ending Story²[/i]

Well, I'm jsut talking about those people who think that porn is protected by freedom of speach are abusing it. I seem to have inidvertanilly hi-jacked your thread, so we'd better head back On Topic.

It's literally impossible for anyone except the government to "break" the constitution. It's a set of laws meant to govern the government.

You don't have freedom to do whatever you want inside of Brian's home, nor do you have the freedom to do it inside of his web-site.

I don't get it.

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So basically, this thread is about is letting free speech triumph over the responsibility not to make an arse out of yourself?

Melon: Just because you have the privilege to express yourself doesn't mean that you should. There's a time and a place for everything.


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This one day I went to change my password, but being the clever chappy that I am, I accidently typed the new pw into the e-mail address bar and clicked submit, hence the slightly modified new user name. Go me and my awesome computer skills.

1. Massassi is a private institution, and therefore can censor anything you may want to say.

2. You're being incredibly hypocritical here, which is ironic considering it's what you're complaining about. You want to be able to express your opinion, and you demand that no one dissent with you, you demand others not speak their opposing minds. So basically, you want to be the only one allowed to express an opinion. Pathetic.

Free speech, when it applies, applies to *everyone*, not just you. Of course, as I explained in #1, it doesn't even apply at Massassi.

3. "pacifier"

4. "ridiculous"

5. "hypocrisy"

6. "inherent"

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