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ForumsDiscussion Forum → Gotta love it when Windows pulls crap like this...
Gotta love it when Windows pulls crap like this...
2006-01-21, 10:22 AM #1
So last night, I'm going about my usual activities of chatting online while surfing and such. Around 9 30 or 10, Windows starts complaining to me that my Trillian directory is corrupt and unreadable, and tells me to run chkdsk. "How can that be?" I ask, "I'm using it RIGHT NOW with no issues." So I ignore it's silly message.

A few minutes later it pops up again. "Alright, fine, I'll make you happy and run the damn program." So I do. Didn't find anything, so I assumed it was XP being flakey as usual. (I now realize it kinda helps to have everything closed when it does that....) So it keeps complaining, and I keep ignoring it. Finally I finish for the night, and decide to see just what Windows is *****ing about. I go to my Trillian directory and attempt to open it only to find that yes, indeed, it does claim to be corrupt and unreadable. So I close Trillian and run chkdsk again. (Bear in mind I leave my computer on 24/7, and Trillian is also always running. Just logged off and minimized.) Again it doesn't seem to find much, but now I can't open Trillian back up AT ALL.

"****." I say. So I reboot, maybe that'll cure it. It reboots, and starts running chkdsk. It gets to the part where it's matching indexes or fixing things or whatever and says it's DELETED my Trillian directory. "Er.... Deleted?" I'm a bit nervous now. It finishes and loads Windows, and I immediately go and look for my Trillian directory which....... doesn't exist.

Completely, totally, utterly, GONE. Nothing left.

So Windows, in it's vast wisdom, somehow corrupted an entire directory of a program that had been working just fine for MONTHS, and running for over 3 days. And then DELETED IT.

What the hell!?

The fact that I now have to redownload and install Trillian and find all of my skins and format my contact list again doesn't bother me much. .... It's my LOGS that I'm the most pissed off about. I had logs going back to MAY, alot of which were fun to just open and casually flip through. If I'd been able to save those, I wouldn't CARE that my Trillian install was just completely obliterated by Windows. Hell, if I'd been able to just save my girlfriend's log, I would be MORE than happy.

But I can't now. And the most irritating part is, had I KNOWN Windows was going to do that, I could've saved every single log. Trillian was running just fine while it was open. I could've opened up every contact, pulled up the log, and done a save as or copied and pasted the text elsewhere.

.... Whoever said Windows XP was the best and most reliable version of Windows yet needs to be shot in the face. I've had more problems with XP in the last 2 months than I ever had with Win2k.
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
Are you finding Ling-Ling's head?
Last Stand
2006-01-21, 10:36 AM #2
That's weird. But I guess you'd better shoot me in the face, because it is the best version of Windows as far as stability and reliability goes.

Side note: explorer.exe "crashed" on me just a couple of minutes ago... it wasn't really a crash though. I was clicking through some folders, and all of a sudden *poof* they were gone, and the start bar was gone. Then a second later the start bar came back and everything is fine. It was strange; usually when explorer crashes it takes everything else down with it, and takes a lot of fiddling around to get working again.
Stuff
2006-01-21, 10:40 AM #3
/end rant

sucks bro
2006-01-21, 11:05 AM #4
Uhh, perhaps your hd is dying.
Sorry for the lousy German
2006-01-21, 11:13 AM #5
If I remember correctly, any corrupt folders CHKDSK finds, it deletes, but it also saves a copy of the corrupted crap on your C: drive somewhere.
2006-01-21, 11:34 AM #6
Never had a single problem with XP in the 3 years I've used it.
2006-01-21, 11:36 AM #7
Originally posted by Impi:
Uhh, perhaps your hd is dying.


Like Impi said, did you even think that maybe you are having a hardware issue? Sounds like you are having a fit, when the OS might even be doing the best it can at this point.

So you have to download and reinstall trillian. What's the big deal? I think I could pull that off in all of 2 minutes, and then spend about 5 setting up preferences.
2006-01-21, 12:07 PM #8
It could be that your HD is dying, or it could be that since you've had logs for so long Trillian was having troubles just running. Don't automatically assume it's Windows. And XP IS the most stable of any copy of Windows--and this is coming from someone who's used all of them extensively (yes, I used ME. Damnit.)
D E A T H
2006-01-21, 12:50 PM #9
Am I the only one who never has problems with XP?
2006-01-21, 12:56 PM #10
[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Am I the only one who never has problems with XP?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
D E A T H
2006-01-21, 1:03 PM #11
Harddrive isn't anymore than a year old. Hardly an excuse, but I haven't had any other issues with it. Like I said, I don't have a problem reinstalling Trillian. I'm just sad that I lost 9 months of logs. And it's not like those were huge files either. Nine months of logs in a txt file is ALOT yeah, but in terms of file size it was still pretty small. In fact I was considering splitting the largest one just yesterday just so it'd open a bit faster.

There's no saved copy on C either from chkdsk. From the little I just read, that'd require I give it instructions on how to run, which it very nicely didn't ask for. It just did.

The term "stable" obviously doesn't apply to my system then. I have problems I never had running 2k. Just because everyone else doesn't have problems with the system doesn't mean I'm not.
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams
Are you finding Ling-Ling's head?
Last Stand
2006-01-21, 1:04 PM #12
I have some problems... but nothing worth mentioning.

EDIT: I do remember have a ton of trouble setting up the sound card at first... but I fixed that in a few days.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-01-21, 1:06 PM #13
Use a file recovery program, and if the data really wasn't corrupted, you might be able to access the deleted files still.
$do || ! $do ; try
try: command not found
Ye Olde Galactic Empire Mission Editor (X-wing, TIE, XvT/BoP, XWA)
2006-01-21, 1:32 PM #14
Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
Harddrive isn't anymore than a year old. Hardly an excuse, but I haven't had any other issues with it. Like I said, I don't have a problem reinstalling Trillian. I'm just sad that I lost 9 months of logs. And it's not like those were huge files either. Nine months of logs in a txt file is ALOT yeah, but in terms of file size it was still pretty small. In fact I was considering splitting the largest one just yesterday just so it'd open a bit faster.

There's no saved copy on C either from chkdsk. From the little I just read, that'd require I give it instructions on how to run, which it very nicely didn't ask for. It just did.

The term "stable" obviously doesn't apply to my system then. I have problems I never had running 2k. Just because everyone else doesn't have problems with the system doesn't mean I'm not.

Harddrives START going bad by doing stuff like this. Random corruptions of files, etc. NTFS is really a very stable file system, so there's no reason windows would just randomly corrupt it unless you turned on compression of files to save space. Then it might easily be corrupted seeing as how .txt files are very compressable, and also easily corrupted by one bit flipped.

Just because you're having problems doesn't mean it's WINDOWS.
D E A T H
2006-01-21, 4:29 PM #15
I've had hopelessly corrupted files/folders in the past. Generally, these things had their names changed to a jumble of random ASCII characters. The folder size was always some impossibly huge number, like 50 GB per folder, but the folders seemed to take up no actual space on the HD. These folders could not be deleted or changed in any way, so a format was the only way to get rid of them.

This type of corruption also tended to get progressively worse with each reboot (affecting new folders and files each time) until I formatted the drive and reinstalled everything.
2006-01-21, 4:40 PM #16
That's odd -- just the other day, Windows was saying a DLL in the Trillian dir was corrupt and needed to be fixed. I ran chkdsk (I think I reinstalled as well) and it's been fine since..
woot!
2006-01-21, 4:42 PM #17
Well Trillian's always been a buggy program. I've used it since its beginning and every version has given me troubles of one sort or another. *shrug*
D E A T H
2006-01-21, 4:46 PM #18
VIVA LA INTERNET.EXPLORER.EXE

Thats right. I said it. Whatcha gonna do about it eh?
Code:
if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}
2006-01-21, 4:52 PM #19
Infect you through ActiveX
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2006-01-21, 8:31 PM #20
Originally posted by Ruthven:
VIVA LA INTERNET.EXPLORER.EXE

Thats right. I said it. Whatcha gonna do about it eh?


/me tosses Ruthven a .wmf file

That, and seeing how this has nothing to do with what browser is better... congrats! :p

:D
2006-01-21, 8:48 PM #21
Windows XP has worked like a charm for me.
I've gotten a few viruses, but that was unrelated. I had unprotected cyber sex.

-And, on a seemingly unrelated note, always backup your files and never keep the originals in the default directory. I've changed P2P file sharers about 15 times and kept all my files in this manner.
2006-01-21, 8:52 PM #22
I've had hard drives go bad months after I've bought them.
2006-01-21, 9:43 PM #23
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Well Trillian's always been a buggy program. I've used it since its beginning and every version has given me troubles of one sort or another. *shrug*[/QUOTE]

I've never had a problem with it. Firefox decides to hang up sometimes, and after a week or two I may need to restart explorer.exe, but those are my only problems.
$do || ! $do ; try
try: command not found
Ye Olde Galactic Empire Mission Editor (X-wing, TIE, XvT/BoP, XWA)
2006-01-21, 9:55 PM #24
Sounds like a bad HD. In fact, Windows XP handled it better than previous Windows' might have. Don't complain... you just have to reinstall Trilly instead of trying to run it and seeing it crash without any clue wtf is happening.

The age of the drive doesn't matter. It's the quality of the drive that matters, which you can't really tell until it dies.

2006-01-21, 10:05 PM #25
[QUOTE=The Mega-ZZTer]Sounds like a bad HD. In fact, Windows XP handled it better than previous Windows' might have. Don't complain... you just have to reinstall Trilly instead of trying to run it and seeing it crash without any clue wtf is happening.

The age of the drive doesn't matter. It's the quality of the drive that matters, which you can't really tell until it dies.[/QUOTE]

I just had a corrupt DLL (Trillian) as well -- with a brand new (weeks old) Seagate hard drive..I have a hard time believing that the drive is going bad already..
woot!
2006-01-21, 10:34 PM #26
Originally posted by CadetLee:
I just had a corrupt DLL (Trillian) as well -- with a brand new (weeks old) Seagate hard drive..I have a hard time believing that the drive is going bad already..

Could be a bad install of windows.
D E A T H
2006-01-22, 5:43 AM #27
I've noticed that XP Home (which my wife has) runs a bit suckier that XP Pro (which I have)
obviously you've never been able to harness the power of cleavage...

maeve
2006-01-22, 9:23 AM #28
I've never had any problems with XP, using Pro and Home. Just doing the usual housekeeping always kept it ticking over nicely.
2006-01-22, 10:46 AM #29
It's funny how people treat their OS like a person.
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2006-01-22, 11:34 AM #30
Yes. I sleep with my XP next to me.
SnailIracing:n(500tpostshpereline)pants
-----------------------------@%
2006-01-22, 2:00 PM #31
Actually, so do I. :o
But that's just because I store my laptop on a nightstand next to my bed.
Catloaf, meet mouseloaf.
My music
2006-01-22, 10:44 PM #32
and I never named both my laptops, and my desktop...

...and I certainly don't use those names in regular conversation...

<.<
>.>
2006-01-22, 11:33 PM #33
My XP and I are going to Vermont, where it's legal.

-My family has abandonned me in response.

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