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Vee Eye Bee Are Aye Tee Eye Oh En !
2006-01-27, 7:26 PM #1
I need lots of vibes! I go to the Semi-Semi-Finals for Minnesota's Slam Poetry Chapter tomorrow night. If I get top 5, I go on the radio that night, and then I go back for a final competition a few weeks later. If all goes well, I make it to the NEW YORK SLAM FINALS! This is a natinoal event... it's scary big.

To show you how BIG this actually is, if I get 3rd or 2nd or maybe even 1st, there are SEVERAL agents interested in doing business with me. I also have a publishing company in town here that has agreed to publish my work in my very own paper edition for the entire northland, and a lot of canada. I can also cut a CD for FREE, but no publisher has approached me yet.

Anyway, wish me luck! Everyone in town here seems to think that I can make it to nationals, so I feel like I have a lot to live up to. The mayor even said he'd pay for me to go to the slam finals in NY if I make it, as he wants me to represent duluth as "I always have in the past."

JediKirby
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2006-01-27, 7:28 PM #2
Good luck. Just remember though. A top 10 on the poetry charts means you've sold more than one book :p
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2006-01-27, 7:30 PM #3
*oscillates*
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2006-01-27, 7:30 PM #4
Hehe, you're a big little man, aren't ya! :D Seriously, wow, looks like you've accomplished a lot considering you're only 17 and are confined to a wheelchair. Go for it Kirbs, make us proud! I write some poetry myself as you know, share some of yours with me sometime. Best of luck to you, I'm sure you've got plenty of talent. Care to explain how your previous poetry slams have gone? ;)
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2006-01-27, 7:33 PM #5
I've gotten no less than 4th at every slam I've went to. Not to brag, but I got second at the first one I ever attended. I have 4 or 5 different "First Place" certificates/prizes from the adult slams, and I've NEVER lost a youth slam. Even up against seasoned veterains.

The pity points from the judges DON'T hurt :-P

I could post a recording of one of my performed poems, if you'd like?
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2006-01-27, 7:36 PM #6
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I could post a recording of one of my performed poems, if you'd like?

That would be great! ;)
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2006-01-27, 7:36 PM #7
Ashley sends her vibes!
2006-01-27, 7:40 PM #8
Originally posted by kyle90:
*oscillates*


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2006-01-27, 7:45 PM #9
Good Luck, Dude!
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2006-01-27, 7:51 PM #10
V-I-B-E-S!!!
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2006-01-27, 8:00 PM #11
Originally posted by Daft_Vader:
That would be great! ;)


LANGUAGE

Falling Out of the Treehouse

Code:
I touched myself 4 times today,
And not once did I think of you.

But I thought; Hey
Maybe we’re having a falling out,
Or maybe I’m falling out,
Or maybe–there wasn’t even a tree house to begin with?
We grew up in a tree house where we held down
Frank’s sister and told her she had to kiss the cutest boy.
So you kissed Jake and I broke your Barbie’s head off.

If this is the sort of poem a guy has to write
Just to break up with you.
Than maybe you need to realize that
You’re not exactly worth the words he’s wasted on you
The dictionaries he’s gone through
Looking for the perfect synonym for love
That you shove back at him because he
Still isn’t the cutest boy in the tree house.

And we are falling out
Because I have a secret for you:
I never wrote poetry because I loved you
It was because I didn’t
And I wanted to prove to myself
That I wasn’t just using you for the blowjobs

But I was.  And even then I wasn’t.
All you really did for me was
Make me feel like I didn’t need porn
Even though my collection grew 3 megs by
The time I wrote this.

But whatever.  The important part
Is that slivers from poorly put together
Tree Houses still sting 12 years later.
And I’ll always be six years old.

They fairy tailed they were Pirates protecting you 
from Frank because little boys can’t kiss little girls
But pirates protecting princesses could.

Or snow-forts and snot-nose winters
With cheek kisses and we melted the snow
Around us with the heat from our breath
Avoiding Minnesota death
And I couldn’t ever go down the hill head first.
Your snowballs always hurt worst.

Love is so ****ing simple at age 10,
When we could find a flower 
Found in the grass as the symbol of us
And that’s all we needed to stay alive.

So many others our age
Still live like that and it’s sick.
I’m sick of living like that.
We are only together because
No one could drive yet
And loving you from down the street made sense.
We’d meet at the tree house to Make-out;
And the whole time I was still secretly a pirate.

Close distanced relationships don’t work;
They slave drive.
Trying to stay alive because the ups and downs
Of this hill hell town is founded upon
How long I’m grounded
And that’s no way to love someone;
Between classes.

We took timeouts together only to talk about
How better we were than to have listened to the rules
And rebellion is the lonely heart’s charity.

I only like music I can be smarter than.
And you were the only tune they played
On cold Minnesota days when MTV
Wasn’t playing music and
You’re obviously getting sick of the cold
Sick of falling out of the tree house
Sick of the bruises and the broken bones and the wood ticks
And the splinters and the sand in your shoes and
You used me.  Use me until the snow melts away from the base beams.

Gas Prices shot up with our age, and wages 
Down with our stages of perpetual innocence.
50 cents change and nothing stays the same.
3 miles outside of town and the sound of
Your song long and ghostlike on the one working speaker
Takes me back to everything and the gas pedal closes distance
Between me and the white noise of lost FM reception.
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2006-01-27, 8:02 PM #12
Originally posted by JediKirby:
The pity points from the judges DON'T hurt :-P

Along with the shotgun blasts to the knee-caps.

Good luck, Kirby. *Falls off chair whilst making an odd humming noise*
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2006-01-27, 8:09 PM #13
Emo Kids must envy your gift of writing REAL poety.

Thats right, I complimented someone on their poetry, and seeing as how I really hate poetry in general, and seeing as how I read all the way through it, understood, and replied to it.....well ...logic dictates its bloody good.

nice work.
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2006-01-27, 8:12 PM #14
Originally posted by JediKirby:

Wow, that's really quite good. Completely different format and style from anything I've ever attmepted. Your poem almost seems to border on prose (it's free verse, right?) The story, diction, and constant variation in flow makes for a good read. I haven't listened to the recording yet! :p
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2006-01-27, 8:15 PM #15
Originally posted by Daft_Vader:
Wow, that's really quite good. Completely different format and style from anything I've ever attmepted. Your poem almost seems to border on prose (it's free verse, right?) The story, diction, and constant variation in flow makes for a good read. I haven't listened to the recording yet! :p


Very free verse. I usually write a bit more structured, but I wrote that poem after hearing a FANTASTIC Free Verse poet at a featured slam [which I won, and he congradulated me at... wow]. I went home and wrote the poem in a similar fashion to his, and I haven't gone back since.

ACTUALLY, you can hear the poem that inspired me on his website: The poem is called "Luke."

http://elliot.superharmonbros.com/joust.html
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2006-01-27, 8:32 PM #16
Interesting. I've always been more into rhyming poems myself, and I recall reading how you despise that and think it's horribly contrived. :p

Sometimes I would agree with you, and I definately see the impact of a poem like this, but I've always been more interested in the fun things you can do with flow, rhythm and rhyme. Maybe I can share some of my stuff with you sometime and you can show me some more of yours. I am definately very impressed with your style, maybe you could get me started on something more like that, I like plenty of variation in my poems. :)
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2006-01-27, 8:34 PM #17
I like rhymes, but they REALLY can't be forced. I've written several rhyming poems, and almost all of my poems contain elements of rhyme and rythm in them... I just don't depend on it to carry my poetry, like some rhyming poems do. THAT'S what I don't like.
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2006-01-27, 9:15 PM #18
Falling out of the Treehouse is quite good.


I prefer writing prose ( I'm a creative writing major at California State University, Long Beach) so any poetry that I write has to be literally forced out of me, in the form of a class assignment or something similar. Even then, I can only write free verse--I never could make rhyme and meter work properly.
2006-01-28, 3:14 AM #19
Woobles for you.
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2006-01-28, 3:16 AM #20
Complex destructive interference to transform all vibrations into your resonant frequency.
2006-01-28, 3:41 AM #21
Why do they call it "slam" poetry?
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2006-01-28, 6:07 AM #22
OK, I'm leaving NOW! I'm so excited, and VERY nervous! EEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Slam Poetry]
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2006-01-28, 11:00 AM #23
*Vibes*

By the way, you spelled Vibration as Vibrition.
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2006-01-28, 11:12 AM #24
This is how I vibrate.
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2006-01-28, 12:06 PM #25
Good luck!

A poetry slam seems like a wannabe of a rap battle.
2006-01-28, 12:30 PM #26
Kirbs, is that topic title some summoning ritual for Tee?
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2006-01-28, 3:30 PM #27
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Way cool. You're seriously talented.
2006-01-29, 12:45 PM #28
So how'd it go?
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2006-01-29, 1:17 PM #29
HORRIBLY

OK, here's how the entire trip went:

My mother invited Ellen, [If you can remember,this is the woman who "baby sat" me when my parents were away almost a year ago.] and her 2 kids, Niko and Hannah.

The ride down was OK, minimal arguing [Although NO arguing would have happened were it just me and my mother; we get along just fine.] and only a few trip-ups in the time. We got down there just fine. On the way, we stopped off to see my girlfriend's 1 act play, which she did WONDERFUL in, getting BEST ACTRESS and her play getting second.

Anyway, we get down to the hotel, hang around for a while, then go to the slam.

We wait around at the slam for a while until it finally starts. 3 or 4 poets go up. Nearly ALL of them are rapping, something that's sort of iffy in REAL slams, but this, my friends, is a youth slam. Things are a little different here.

Almost EVERY SINGLE SLAMMER talked about being beat, or their mother's being beat. At a REAL slam, we'd call this PITY POETRY. It wouldn't have gotten anything more than a 6, maybe an 8 if the rhymes were any good, and the presentation was wonderful. These poor souls were getting 9s and 10s... all because they were beat as kids.

I'm sorry, but being beat and writing a poem about it isn't slam poetry, or even good poetry in itself. If you've got a message, or you say something important along with the poem, then damn, good poem. You LEARNED from your hardships.

Only ONE of the pity poets actually had a message to their poem. The rest of the poems were either racial or feminist poems. A lot of BAD poetry, basically. In almost ANY other scene, they would have gotten ****Y scores.

So I get on stage for my poem, right? No mic. They PROMISED there'd be a mic. the way the judges are, they won't hear me. I have a quieter voice because, like ANY REAL POET KNOWS:

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO YELL FOR YOUR POETRY TO BE GOOD!

That's WHY we have mics at slams. That's even one of the KEY things they say on the ORIGINAL slam rules! The FOUNDERS of slam support the concept of using mics.

But no, they don't have mics. So I BELT my poem out, NOT how it's supposed to sound [This is the poem I uploaded for you guys to hear, by the way. Notice how I don't belt out any of it?] Anyway, the audience was ROLLING. People shook my hand after the entire slam and told me I was the funniest person they'd ever met. This is partially due to my second poem, but I'll get to that.

I got 1 9.5, and 4 8.5s. These are horrible scores for what my poem usually gets in ADULT slams, with people who've been doing it for 6 and 7 years. 8.5s are PITY points, usually.

So I immediatly start writing. I write a real fast fancy poem called "A note to the judges." where one of my key lines is "I don't need your pity to read poetry. Give this poem 2s and 4s, because I'll walk out the door with my dignity." The poem was HILARIOUS, and also said that "I don't need to have my dad beat me to write poetry" The judges got the entire satire in my voice, as I also went up to them and shook their hands to make sure they were cool, but I GUESS 2 or 3 of the poets didn't like this. Whatever, I really don't care.

I then read the poem I had PLANNED to read that night, and the audience loved it. I wheeled of stage with a standing ovation from the crowd. THAT'S how a slam is handled. Raw truth. That's the ENTIRE idea, is to say what people DON'T want to hear.

So I zoom outside with niko to catch a breath of fresh air, as I was VERY hot from performing. His mother FOLLOWS ME OUTSIDE AND BEGINS YELLING AT ME. She SCREAMS how selfish of a little **** I was, saying that I was beng rude by leaving and not listening to the rest of the poets [I had only planned to go outside for a few seconds for this exact reason, I was just burning up.] and that they 'came all the way down there for me' and that I'd let them down and whatnot. Mind you, she cussed her head off the entire time. All I repeatedly said was 'Go away.' and 'I don't have to justify anything to you.' I said 'I never invited you, so deal with it.'

So the slam gets over, I talk to several people, just to make sure they're not sore. MANY people, poets included, came up to me laughing saying "Man, you're a funny guy." and stuff like that.

We get back to th car. Ellen SCREAMS at me for a half of a ****ing hour. Her son gets out of the car, not wanting to listen to us argue, and kicks the tires and such trying to get us to go home. I attempt to argue my case, and say that I meant no disrespect and that overall, I was being satarical, which MANY people understood. My mother agreed with her, but was very adult like about it.

I endure a half an hour of being called names and whatnot, being told I'm acting like a 10 year old, and that the one time in my life that I wasn't handed something on a silver platter that I had to act like a dick about it. I remained respectful, didn't raise my voice, and replied to all of her points with pure logic.

What. The. ****.

When we FINALLY drop them off after a 3 hour car ride home the next morning, me and my mother talk.

My mother TOTALLY agrees with me that, yes, what I did was rude, but it was MY choice, and what I wanted to say. If Ellen hadn't been there, my mother would have said, very respecfully that she thought what I did was rude, and we would have discussed it like adults. I felt like Ellen was MORALLY POLICING ME, trying to tell me how my morals should be.

At one point I said "Our opinions differ, then. Let's leave it at that." Ellen's response was "**** you, you're wrong. That's why I'm yelling at you. You're WRONG." I even apoligized to her, and said I'd be e-mailing the poets in case they were offended and let them know I was joking. Her reply? "Obviously, you aren't sorry, because you left the room and totally disrespected the poets. **** you." I'd like to note that she REPEATEDLY said "**** you." and called me names.

I shouldn't have to justify myself or my actions to anyone but MYSELF. If any of those poets had come out there cussing at me, I would have understood. They had a right to. SHE, however, DIDN'T. You reep the seeds you sew, and I would have had to deal with whatever my actions ended in, right? Instead, I have to justify myself to the moral police, Ellen.

My entire amazing weekend went horrible because of this woman. I would have been totally cool with not getting in the top 10. In fact, I didn't really CARE about my score, I was just having fun, SLAMMING the judges, like you know, you're SUPPOSED to in a slam.

Anyway, I feel increadably attacked, and very disrespected right now. The worst part about it, is that I was the one who was respectable the whole time. The 17 year old "*******" that didn't care about anyone but himself, that "little ****."

JediKirby
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2006-01-29, 1:27 PM #30
That sucks man...

I agree with you on every account, and the poem written to slam the judges was a joke, and it seems like the judges realized that.

Talk to your mom or someone, and get them to talk to this psycho *****. I mean, going through you mom could be considered being a wimp or something, but seems like she won't listen to you so see if you can get your mom to help you argue with her. At the same time, mind you, not have your mom call her up one night and tell her she doesn't agree with what she did.

But it sounds like you had fun except for that, so hope it wasn't a completely horrid weekend..
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2006-01-29, 1:29 PM #31
no, my mother agrees with me, as do ellen's 2 kids, so I don't really care what she thinks. I just feel like I'm being treated like a kid simply because I'm younger. I was, in EVERYONE'S eyes but her's, correct. So I don't need to justify **** to her.
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