I feel compelled to post this picture, just because I can.



The cartoon isn't especially funny, but the response to it is hilarious.

Cartoonist draws a cartoon suggesting muslims are violent.. muslims respond by violently storming an EU office. Does Islam condemn irony?

Edit: Try now

Link didn't work, and I'm too lazy to mess with it. :p

I'm not surprised, though.

Yeah, when I saw all the fuss about this on the news I thought of 2 words. Mountain and molehill. Seriously, if you're offended by something don't read it. It really is that simple.

I heard about this. The power of one cartoon!

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I think something in my brain just snapped when I read imsoshort's post. OUCH

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[quote=me on some other forum]
I'm somewhat split over the whole subject. On one side I see a bunch of idiots blaming an entire country for the work of a newspaper. In the middle east they regularly have similar cartoons in their own newspapers lambasting the US, Israel, Judaism etc. In fact, all major religions have been satirised in the past, why make a special rule for Islam?
On the other hand I see a bunch of scribbles that had they been pictures of black people with giant red lips and watermelons in hand or had it attacked the sacred cow of Judaism it would have been decried as racist or anti-semitic world-wide. Yet for some reason this is allowed to pass under the banner of free speech while the others may not.
Personally I defend the paper's right to publish these images even if they are reprehensible because I don't see why religious ideas should be outside the circle of debate or satire. Race is something you cannot change but religion and culture are totally diiferent. They're a collection of ideas and habits that can be held or practiced by anyone. To make them off-limits to criticism is to place certain types of ideas outside the realm of debate.[/quote]

Imagine if they got copies of Family Guy and American Dad.

Link isn't working.

I think the link I made should be working though if Mort's is acting up

This is about those dutch guys that made the comics right? Yeah, I got it now. Hilarious.

For what it's worth, the cartoons originate from a Danish newspaper not Dutch

Ah, that's right, my bad. I knew it was a D, and assumed it was Dutch...Danish sounds right. Thanks for the correction

I say we make lots and lots of Mohamed cartoons. We could even have a comic strip featuring Mohamed. It could replace Garfield. The comoic it self wouldn't even have to be funny. The funny would come from watching the muslums. :p

In all seriouslness, though, it's one thing to not be insulting to people but these guys are so hypocritical I don't feel at all sorry for them.

Speaking of which, on another forum I read, someone discovered that if you remove all of Garfield's dialogue from the comic, it becomes oddly surreal and hilariously funny.

Someone needs to post the picture of the Irony Tree. Danish comic insinuates that all muslims are terrorists, muslim world responds by burning down danish embassy and threating to kill all the danes in the middle east.. because they're angry about the comic that suggested that they're violent.




I don't know whats worse, the response or the perversion of Islam that allows the response.





In addition, modified Garfield strips are the best.

Yes.

http://www.blonnet.com/2002/12/16/images/2002121601081301.jpg

This one?

Yeah.

it probably doesn't help that according to islam, depicting Allah or his prophet in any pictures in any way is considered blasphemy. that and the fact that in some of the ones published Muhammed was not only drawn (strike one) but drawn as a terrorist

Though of course, voilence is always the best way to show that you're not voilent, as we all know.

As requested. Though I think I'll borrow someone elses bargepole for this topic kthnxbye.

You completely misunderstand sugarless. Islam is a religion of peace . You left wing crazy types can't get this through your head. They are a peaceful religion, the prohphet muhammad talked about nothing but peace.

I smell sarcasm but it's hard to tell.

You see, good friends, there is a difference between church and gospel. While the 'church' or culture of islam is bat ****ing looney, the gospel, IMO, is quite peaceful. The passages in the Qu'ran about killing infidels are taken as out of context as the passages about killing Canaanites in the Old Testament. Out of cultural and historical context things are bad bad bad.

I kill canines. Is that close enough?

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]I kill canines. Is that close enough?[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude, it is like the same.

If you are Chinese.

Are you Chinese?

Because I think Yoshi was Jewish. He is after all green.

Doesn't he have a yellow brother?

Yeah. He's more Chinese than Jewish though.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Yeah. He's more Chinese than Jewish though.[/QUOTE]

That's cool man, thanks for clearing that up.

Islam is the religion of peace and I'll ******* KILL ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES!

The only reason most countries and media companies won't lambast Islam is because the Arabic residents of those countries will grow violent. Ultimately if they want to picket and protest against free speech, they're using their right to free speech and peaceful discord. That's fine. It's ironic and highly retarded, but fine. It's when they get violent that it shouldn't be tolerated anymore.

The problem here isn't Islam: it's Arabic culture. Their culture is a poison and it's very obvious, to me, that the overwhelming majority of Arabic immigrants have no intention of assimilation. They do not want to cooperate as productive members of our society, they want to bring it down from the inside. Riots in France? "Peaceful" protests in other European nations? Burning down embassies?
They do not ascribe to western ideals because their own home country is so backwards that they cannot understand them. They come into our countries and protest against our ideals, but they don't understand that our ideals are what let them do this.

The only reason Arabic culture has survived is because we give them oil money. The Arabs throw that money at their problems, patching them over and cementing their power. In Europe our ancestors didn't have this luxury: to continue being productive we had to throw off the shackles of an obsolete government. We had the renaissance and the industrial revolution. Because of our interference, the Middle East never went through these very important growing steps. They never learned the importance of free speech and equality to social stability.

By welcoming the Middle East into the global community we're putting a medieval despot on the same level as ourselves and expecting him to get along with everybody else. By allowing Arabic emmigration we're trying to bring 15th century Puritans into the modern world and expecting no witch burnings. The damage can't be repaired, and our only option at this point is to put them in their place with heavy arms.

Sorry, that's just my opinion about the matter. A long time ago I wouldn't have agreed with a single word I said, but I'm growing increasingly aware of just how far behind the Middle East is.

So back it up with quotes out of the q'oran. Or make your scarcasm more obvious.

I'm not aware of any time in the Koran that Muhammed committed violence against an individual that didn't start it - i.e., in the defense of Medina against the Meccans, against the Medinan Jews that tried to betray him, etc.

On the matter of the comics, the Danes shouldn't have published those comics - there's a difference between criticism and ridicule. The Muslims shouldn't have overreacted. Not all Muslim immigrants are terrible people.

(Furthermore: Arabs only make up 15% of the Muslim community, so don't always associate Muslims with Arabs)

Here's a link to a page that proves that Mohammed has been drawn/painted/printed before not only in the West but also in the originating Middle Eastern countries. Some of the images further down are in badtaste because they are confronting the cartoon controversy, but it gives you an overall sense of what's going on.

Extremists are using this as an excuse to break a few bones.

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/

I think the image that says the most is the cartoon with The Nazi Jew and Mohammed. But I'm not going to link to it. It's in the link above.

And... is it true that Mohammed took a 6-year old bride named Aisha? Because that's pretty ****ed up and gross.

She gets younger every time I hear about it.

I read somewhere that she was 6 when he married her and 9 when he consummated the marriage. I have no idea whether that's true or not or what so I won't argue the point.

yeah, they were engaged when she was six and he married her at the age of nine. By modern moral standards that's ridiculously early, but back then over there, I have no idea how much it would be frowned upon considering how young most girls would have been married off.



There kinda is one already: Jesus and Mo *LANGUAGE WARNING!*

The italics and faulty reasoning doesn't do it already?