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Grammy Awards
2006-02-08, 6:18 PM #1
I can die a happy man.

Best Hard Rock Performance: System of a Down - B.Y.O.B.
Best Rock Album: U2 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb

Anyone else watching the Grammy Awards? I usually don't, but there are actually a lot of performances I wanted to see this year.

(Wasn't sure what forum this belonged in. Move it, if it needs to be moved)
Think while it's still legal.
2006-02-08, 6:18 PM #2
Dragonforce > SOAD

*dodge*
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2006-02-08, 6:28 PM #3
I'm only watching it for Fiona Apple >.>
(and Paul just sang, yay)
/me facestabs Clarkson
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2006-02-08, 6:35 PM #4
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]

Best Rock Album: U2 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb

[/QUOTE]


Oh Great, MADDOX WILL BE HAPPPY! :rolleyes:

I used to love U2, but now they really blow.
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2006-02-08, 7:19 PM #5
Best of stuff that's on the radio.

Yeah, sounds fun.
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2006-02-08, 7:21 PM #6
I was hoping Winger would get something.

I guess it's unrealistic to expect an 80's glam rock band to grab a share of the pie these days.
2006-02-08, 7:21 PM #7
BYOB best Hard Rock performance?

Ugh. I've heard a lot better Hard Rock songs last year than that. Disappointing really.

And I despise U2.

Hell, whoever's on the judge's panel needs to choke on something sharp. I'll leave it at that.
D E A T H
2006-02-08, 7:39 PM #8
I am so glad that BYOB won best hard rock performance. Chop Suey! was nomminated at the 2001 Grammy Awards, but didn't win, and I'm glad to see that BYOB took the prize this year. BYOB turned into a hit over night. It's still being played on the radio like it just came out. It's amazing. It's one of those songs that got attention from all kinds of people. Coldplay thanked System of a Down at the MTV awards this year, and Kanye West said earlier in the year that Mezmerize was his favorite album of the year. So not only did System of a Down grab the attention of it's fans in 2005, it also grabbed the attention of artists from all genres of music. THAT is why BYOB deserved to win Best Hard Rock Performance. It was a mind blowing song that topped the charts and brought the sounds of hardcore, metal, and disco and crammed them all into one hell of a ride.

As for everyone hating on U2, all I can say is...why?! Everyone keeps telling me that the 'new' U2 sucks compared to the much better 'old' U2. I had never really listened to U2 until Atomic Bomb, but when I heard the album I was amazed. It was one of the first albums that I had ever heard that in my mind was perfect. All the songs flowed together, and all the music was memorable. People kept complaining that Vertigo was way to 'poppy' for U2? What the hell? Who cares who is playing the damn song. If they made it, it obviously isn't too poppy for them! The song is catchy, and it sticks in your head after you hear it like super glue! I would like to bet that half the people who insulted U2's latest album haven't even listened to the entire album. If you don't like Vertigo, that's fine. The rest of the album is a lot less 'poppy'. Overall it's insane that U2 is still rocking out after all these years, and they must be doing SOMETHING right if they are selling albums and winning awards like they are.
Think while it's still legal.
2006-02-08, 7:42 PM #9
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Overall it's insane that U2 is still rocking out after all these years, and they must be doing SOMETHING right if they are selling albums and winning awards like they are.[/QUOTE]

Marketing?

Just kidding lawlz
2006-02-08, 7:44 PM #10
Although I still rather like System of a Down, each album that comes out is a little worse than the one before it.
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2006-02-08, 8:16 PM #11
Originally posted by SiliconC:
Although I still rather like System of a Down, each album that comes out is a little worse than the one before it.

Could NOT agree more.

I think Healthy Distrust should've won Album of the Year. Maybe even Demon Dayz. But of course neither would EVER win album of the year because the only thing the Grammies looks at is popular artists. Even though A Healthy Distrust carried a heavier political fist delivered with much more force than Mezmerize OR Hypnotize (not only that but it was done by someone who actually had a clear political message), but it also was just an amazing compilation.

Demon Dayz was a phenomenon and a great experiment in electro-funk. It reached across nations and oceans and became a hit INSTANTANEOUSLY and STILL is rather large.

I may even give the award to an amazing amalgamation of music by El Ten Eleven, a small upstart band in the Post-Rock genre. Their music is amazingly inspiring, and rivals that of the other giants in its genre (Explosions in the Sky, Mogwai, Godspeed You! Black Emperor). The wholly instrumental music conveys emotion better than anything I've ever heard. But I doubt anyone on the committee for the Grammies has even heard of these guys.

BYOB is arguably the WORST song on Hypnotize, and not only that but it has no real meaning (or rather, what little meaning it does have is silly and not something I'd ever take seriously), but it also made me die a little on the inside the first time I heard it.

I hate on U2 because they SUCK. Their songs are bland and...well...annoying really. Bono may donate hundreds of thousands to charity and do a lot of other neato stuff, but that doesn't make him a good musician. It has everything to do with my opinions, something you cannot grasp yet SAJN.

Also, I'd trust Kanye West's taste in music the day that George Bush starts hating black people. According to common sense, not according to Kanye.

But that's the problem with giving awards to music--you're awarding something that's based PURELY on someone's taste in music and their own outlook on it. I really don't support that kind of thing because there's only one thing you can award--sales. Everything else is pretty much up to interpretation.
D E A T H
2006-02-08, 8:21 PM #12
I avoid award shows like the plague.

No, seriuosly, they give me hives. The doctor says it's probably an allergic reaction to all the bull****.
2006-02-08, 8:26 PM #13
I love the U2 song 'Beautiful Day'. It's amazing. The others are 'alright' by comparison.
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2006-02-08, 8:26 PM #14
I was going to post a rather lengthy rant about the declining quality of big-label music, but I decided against it.

I will however say that people need to start looking outside of the big labels for good music. It would very much help if independant artists/labels started getting the recognition that radio music has gotten. I'm not an indie rock snob, but there are so many great musicians and albums out there, better than big-label music, that don't get the recognition they deserve.

For instance, listen to Arthur Yoria and compare him to one of the popular artists that do they same style of music, such as Jason Mraz (who sucksbad) or OAR. Arthur Yoria is definately better.

Or take Roots of Rebellion who rock just as much if not more than the rock bands recording for big labels. Or maybe Somadrone or Atomic Opera.

And these are just some bands that could afford to record. This doesn't even scratch the surface of the great artists out there who can only afford to do demo tracks. I haven't even touched on music from beyond the United States either, but needless to say there are many more artists that are simply ignored because they don't have the marketing engines of the big labels to promote them.

When the Grammy Awards and the other award shows start expanding their music libraries and rewarding the artists that really are the best in their particular genre, then maybe I'll watch.
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2006-02-08, 8:27 PM #15
Me too, but right as I was about to turn off the tv I heard "with Performances by [names],Fiona Apple,[other names]" and thus was stuck watching
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2006-02-08, 8:32 PM #16
[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]Dragonforce > SOAD

*dodge*[/QUOTE]


YES.
2006-02-08, 8:34 PM #17
Dragonforce is the same sound looped with keyboards. It sucks. I seriously don't understand the hype.
D E A T H
2006-02-08, 8:42 PM #18
Green Day won best record. Springsteen performed. I liked it.
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2006-02-08, 8:48 PM #19
Quote:
BYOB is arguably the WORST song on Hypnotize, and not only that but it has no real meaning (or rather, what little meaning it does have is silly and not something I'd ever take seriously), but it also made me die a little on the inside the first time I heard it.


BYOB was on Mezmerize not Hypnotize. Also, how is it the worst? No meaning? Silly? Pffft. There be no hope for ye my son.

Quote:
Dragonforce is the same sound looped with keyboards. It sucks. I seriously don't understand the hype.


It has everything to do with peoples opinions, something you cannot grasp yet Yoshi.
Think while it's still legal.
2006-02-08, 8:50 PM #20
I think he's wondering why people have these opinions. Maybe
2006-02-08, 8:52 PM #21
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]BYOB was on Mezmerize not Hypnotize. Also, how is it the worst? No meaning? Silly? Pffft. There be no hope for ye my son.[/quote]
My mistake. I wasn't really paying attention for the entire rant.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]It has everything to do with peoples opinions, something you cannot grasp yet Yoshi.[/QUOTE]
moneyobie hit it on the head--a lot of people like Screamo Metal too. I wonder how/why. I'm not saying they're wrong or anything...but I hate it and I'm seriously at a loss as to how anyone can like it.
D E A T H
2006-02-08, 8:52 PM #22
U2 won best Album, and Greenday won best Record...what's the difference between a record and an album?
Think while it's still legal.
2006-02-08, 8:54 PM #23
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]U2 won best Album, and Greenday won best Record...what's the difference between a record and anal bum?[/QUOTE]
One has covers.
D E A T H
2006-02-08, 9:02 PM #24
There is no difference. It's just a way to give out more awards.
Pissed Off?
2006-02-08, 9:07 PM #25
I don't know, but Boulevard of Broken dreams is not an 'record' unless single=record. American Idiot is the album that BoBD was on.

It's kind of lame but I think Greenday deserves it, whatever award it is.
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2006-02-08, 10:01 PM #26
So did Fiona Apple actually perform?
2006-02-08, 10:03 PM #27
U2! Woohooo! I love ALL their music, new, old, in between, whatever. They're one of the most accomplished bands of all time, and I know not everyone likes them, but you got to admit, they're amazing. They've been around for 30 years and they get 5 grammy's in their 30'th year. Thats what I call crazy cool and dedicated. I am kicking myself for not going to their concerts in the vertigo tour. Oh well. I am sure they will do plenty more tours.
They had some pretty good performers this year, out of what I watched. U2, Coldplay, and Paul McCartney was cool, although the woman who came in with U2 to sing "One" didn't do the song justice... she just didn't show the emotion in her voice at the level bono can in that song...
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2006-02-08, 10:07 PM #28
SOAD's self-titled will always be the best.
2006-02-08, 10:12 PM #29
U2 blows.

Queen is where it's at.
2006-02-09, 3:15 AM #30
I didn't see it. In fact, I didn't even know it was on tonight. But, if American Idiot is winning awards, it probably wasn't worth watching anyway.

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]Overall it's insane that U2 is still rocking out after all these years...[/QUOTE]

No, what's insane is that The Stones are still rocking harder than U2 ever will.
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2006-02-09, 3:31 AM #31
[QUOTE=Chaz Ghostle]No, what's insane is that The Stones are still rocking harder than U2 ever will.[/QUOTE]
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2006-02-09, 4:01 AM #32
Originally posted by genk:
I'm only watching it for Fiona Apple >.>
(and Paul just sang, yay)
/me facestabs Clarkson


I'm too lazy to type out my own comment, so I'm just going to say that I agree with Genki.

I hate new U2, though. They used to be awesome.
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2006-02-09, 4:37 AM #33
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Dragonforce is the same sound looped with keyboards. It sucks. I seriously don't understand the hype.[/QUOTE]

Go to a live concert. It's not all looped ;)
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"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2006-02-09, 5:58 AM #34
[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]Go to a live concert. It's not all looped ;)[/QUOTE]
I didn't specify electronically.
D E A T H
2006-02-09, 8:50 AM #35
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]
Hell, whoever's on the judge's panel needs to choke on something sharp. I'll leave it at that.[/QUOTE]

It's voted on by members of some group. Basically, any musician can pay something like $25 to register as a member and have voting rights. It's really quite stupid. But honestly, how do the Grammy's impact your life? Are you mad because your favorite band didn't get recognized and the same 5 bands are up for Grammy's every year? It's all political. Bono could probably take a **** and shrink wrap it to win a grammy. Same with Green Day.
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2006-02-09, 9:33 AM #36
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Dragonforce is the same sound looped with keyboards. It sucks. I seriously don't understand the hype.[/QUOTE]

I thought so too at first. It takes me about 3 listens of each song to enoy them. Once you've listened to a song a few times you realise how awesome they are.
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2006-02-09, 9:57 AM #37
accualy Dragonforce and SOAD are completly diffrent sounds. Dragonforce is pure 80's type speed mettal (only even faster). where are SOAD has aspects of it but if you listen to Question (Better than BYOB) or any of their stuff really you can see that they are sort of a style unto themselves. If you listen for simply the speed then DF is alot better but if you listen for composition you'll probably go with SOAD.

I personaly enjoy both, but they both have their shortcomings.

I take part of that back, I didn't like anything form Vally of the Damned, I thought Sonic Firestorm was much better.
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2006-02-09, 10:04 AM #38
[QUOTE=Chaz Ghostle]No, what's insane is that The Stones are still rocking harder than U2 ever will.[/QUOTE]

I guess you missed the Super Bowl, huh? ;)
2006-02-09, 10:23 AM #39
Originally posted by Wuss:
I guess you missed the Super Bowl, huh? ;)


I think he is including that performance as well. It would still make sense that way.
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2006-02-09, 10:39 AM #40
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