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I find this interesting because I did a speech on it Monday |:

Well I say the RIAA can kiss my ***.

RIAA Headquarters: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Hahaha. Like I'm going to buy DRM'd versions of albums that I already own.

How does the RIAA effect Canadians, anyway? Does anyone know?

Well since it's the Recording Industry Association of America. I wouldn't think it would affect y'all up there.

Unless there are Canadian recording companies part of RIAA.

All like... 2 canadian recording companies?

RIAA basically dominates 99.9% of all record companies. If they make some f*cked up rule, you basically have to follow it if you like buying things.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I'd be bound by their policies if I bought something from one of their labels.

As far as I understand, when you buy the CD, you agree to the terms of use set by the label, which come from the RIAA. The "of america" part is just because the record labels themselves are in America, it's not where and where not the laws apply.

"SCREW THE SYSTEM" -mohawk kid at school when asked how to find the area of a square.

Seriously, let's tear it down. And then we can become the new whores. Like Bill Gates.

The RIAA doesn't perceive "you all" as a threat.

We are the RIAA.
Lower your firewalls and surrender your music.
We will add your musical and technological distinctiveness to our own
Downloading is irrelavant
Lawsuits are irrelavant
Resistance is futile.

Crap like this makes people like me (who buy CDs) think that perhaps they should just download music, since it's apparently illegal to rip a CD to MP3 anyway..bleh.

YOU'LL NEVER ASSIMILATE ME RIAA! TAKE PICARD INSTEAD!!!!

Precisely.

Maybe I should d/l music & mail the artist a $10 check for each CD. w00t.

Resistance is futile. You must comply.

Then they would be making approximately $7 more than usual.

Also a problem if they are dead.

Almost all the music I listen to is from artists that are currently alive. They should get more money than the record companies anyway.

/rebellion

Rebellions are irrelevant. Resistance is futile.

You will be assimilated.

MUHAHAHAHA!

*severs JG's connection to the collective*

They try to lobby here, but the house literally laughs them out of the building.

Canadians bend over and take it from the US on a daily basis. Between unfavorable trade agreements and the US violating its own treaty (supporting US industry protectionism in spite of NAFTA) we aren't terribly interested in listening to what an American music cartel has to say.

Downloading music is legal here. The RIAA doesn't like it, but there isn't anything they can do about it. Well, that's not true: they could get every other country in the world to block Canada's internet access and stop shipping music CDs here, but then they actually would be losing real money that exists instead of the imaginary money of imaginary losses due to imaginary music piracy. Which is what the RIAA would actually try to do if any of their claims held any merit. Which they don't.

Wow. Well, the RIAA can officially kiss my ***. They've pretty much alienated any public support with a statement like that.

I hate the RIAA. They should all die, seriously.

They are greedy b******s who have been ripping artists off for years, and then they have the AUDACITY to go after people for "stealing" music. The RIAA are the real thieves.

I believe that artists should get 50% of ALL profits their cd releases make, not just a small royalty on cd sales. If a progressive label forms and does business that way, it would be worth their while to lose half of the profits b/c the sheer amount of artists wanting a fair slice would more than make up for it.

The real reason why the music execs are so pissed off at file sharing is it gives people a chance to decide what they like for themselves, effectively sidestepping the RIAA's expensive promotion efforts.

*coughmagnatunecough*

It's just a shame that their growth rate isn't staggeringly fast. Probably because not enough people know about them. That, and their biggest draw is their classical music department. Though their rock and metal selection is nothing to scoff at.

In any case, the RIAA lost my monetary vote quite a while ago.

Resis--resist futile irrelevant assimilaaaoooorrr

-_-

That looks pretty good, though like you say, their weakness is their promotion (or lack thereof).

If there is an indie radio station that plays unsigned artists somewhere out there, a partnership between the two would be ideal for both.

Another problem that indie labels have is a lack of money to support artist tours and the like. Magnatune is working on promotion in various ways, but sponsoring touring of their artists is not something they can afford. I love going to live shows, and I would probably pay pretty good money to see a few of their artists such as Arthur Yoria, Brad Sucks, Mandrake Root, Fluid etc. live.

Well it sucks. But its not as bad as those assbutts who are now saying that macking tablature of music is piracy also.

Personally, I have never bought a single CD. No tapes, no records, nothing. And by the looks of it, I never will.

I don't listen to what they have to say anyways.

It usually only takes about 5 minutes of google to circumvent whatever crap they want to throw in my face.

The question we should be asking is why we are even listening to these RIAA douches in the first place when they try to pull s*** like this. They are a music cartel, not a court. Therefore, they have absolutely no direct authority whatsoever when it comes to determining the range and extent of fair use. What they say about fair use means nothing because they have no legal authority in and of themselves to back it up.

All this RIAA talk reminds me of a song and a few lines from it:

"40,000 records sold, 400 grand
**** a middle man, I won't pay anyone else
I'll bootleg it and sell it to the streets my self
I'd rather be that than signed and stuck on a shelf
And because of this executives try to diss me?"

They can say what ever the heck they want. You don't sign an EULA. You can do what ever you want with your music as long as you don't give copies to someone else.

I hate when companies do this. It wont help them make money in the long run and probably not even in the short term. basicly they are saying to everyone who tries to do the good and legal thing of buying CDs and not pirateing that they can stuff it, and the one who are pirateing music won't be affected anyway.

This dosn't help business, basicly they are hurting their customers and not affecting anyone else. (note: that is not a good business practice.) Why do companies fail to see that good customer support, and not restricting your customer for no good reason, is good to business.


I don't like apple for that same reason. I use iTunes when I need to b\c they have some music that I can only find there. (like Nobuo Uematsu) but they restrict you to like using your music on 5 computers and only iPod players.
Ok they try to restrict you.


I have a Creative Zen, which I use for my CDs and my MP3's that I got from iTunes and I will continue to do so, I payed for the music it bogus that they can try to tell people what format to use it in. Is file convertion illegal now?

And this is why I never listened to what they said in the first place.

RIAA R TEH ST00P

They can voice any opinion they want. It doesn't change the fact that the law says something different.

We may be informed but what about the rest of the public? They'll eat it up and believe it is law. Furthermore, if someone does try to challenge it, I'm pretty sure the courts will side in their favor...maaabye except the 9th Circuit.

Boy, what would you guys have done, say, 2000 years ago. The only time you'd hear music is if you played it yourself or went to hear a performence. The way you guys go on about music you'd think it was flowing flowing through your veins, providing life-support or something.

I say if you don't like it, do something about it. Boycott them. Support artists who don't deal with the RIAA.

You can't boycott the RIAA. I don't think you realize how far-reaching their grip is. I guarantee you probably every signed artist you listen to is signed to an RIAA label.

That doesn't mean they're not enablers to the problem.