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"Max Payne's journey through the night will continue"
2004-06-11, 10:43 AM #1
Well, I just got around to finishing Max Payne 2. Some of the lines were lame in my opinion, but overall, but I think it was a very good continuation of the story and ended nicely.

To my surprise, however, the ending credits finished with this line:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"Max Payne's Journey through the night will continue."</font>

This thoroughly excited me. I love the series so much that I would play them past "Max Payne 12" and so on. About 3 /4 through the game, it seemed that Max was like a dying dog that needed to be shot. Or, one that was shot, but wouldn't die. To put it in Vlad's words:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"What are you doing, Max? You are miserable all the time. Why don't you do yourself a favor and just die?"</font>

In addition, how can there be a sequel who's title is "The fall" of the main character? But Max didn't "fall" at the end. He was quite peaceful in fact, but the story was unresolved. After doing some google searches, I found that Max Payne 3 is very much up in the air. The game didn't sell nearly as much as it should have, and a key CEO left Rockstar that backed the Max Payne series. Maybe it didn't sell well because it wasn't properly marketed; I didn't hear anything about the game until shortly before it's release.

Well, heres for hoping.

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2004-06-11, 10:49 AM #2
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
Some of the lines were lame in my opinion</font>


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2004-06-11, 11:03 AM #3
Max Payne 3 IS being made. Go to gamespot.com and look it up.
2004-06-11, 11:06 AM #4
I bought that for my PS2, but for some reason it wasn't working correctly. So I had to take it back. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-06-11, 11:11 AM #5
Lame. Max Payne 3 should not be made, the storyline is over. Plus Remedy has repeatedly said they aren't making another, which just means the liscense is going to someone else. It's a shame Rockstar is going to ruin such a great story; [http://forums.massassi.net/html/mad.gif]
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2004-06-11, 11:15 AM #6
Whats her face and Max are both still alive, so I guess it won't end till they die.

Also MP3 is going to suck, Rockstar is making it. They are changing around the controls and camera and EVERYTHING, because MP2 didn't sell as well as the first...idiots.

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2004-06-11, 11:28 AM #7
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CEO Jeffrey Lapin says a third gritty shooter is in the works, but uncertainty surrounds the game's developer.

After Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne was released last autumn, its title sounded eerily prophetic.

Despite critical acclaim, the sequel to Rockstar's popular graphic-novel-inspired shooter barely broke NPD's top 10 best-selling PC games. In February, Jeffrey L. Lapin, CEO of Rockstar parent Take-Two Interactive, went so far as to blame the publisher's lower-than-expected Q4 2003 earnings on Max Payne 2's lackluster sales.

Today, in Palm Beach, Florida, Lapin echoed those statements. "Max Payne [2] came out in November and did not do as well as we thought," he said. "In fact, it did fairly poorly compared to our expectations."

However, Lapin surprised some by confirming Take-Two's intent to make Max Payne 3. "There'll be another Max Payne," he said in a presentation at the 17th Annual Bear Stearns Media, Entertainment and Information Conference. "I think we'll take a few years to make the next one that much more spectacular is what we have to do. But it's clearly a brand that everybody knows."

Lapin's comments dispelled the clouds of doubt hanging over the third Max Payne game. Though some had seen Take-Two's registration of the URL www.maxpayne3.com as proof the game was coming out, others pointed out that the URL was registered in 2002, long before Max Payne 2 was even released.

While Max Payne 3 is now all but officially announced, confusion has emerged over who is developing the game. While the first two Max Payne games were developed by Finland-based Remedy Games, Lapin made no mention of them in his comments today. Adding to the uncertainty was a post on Shacknews.com from someone claiming to be Mikael Kasurinen, one of Max Payne 2's level designers. "FYI: We are not making Max Payne 3," read the terse post.

Efforts to contact Remedy were unfruitful as of press time. A Rockstar representative contacted by GameSpot said he had no knowledge that plans for Max Payne 3 were underway, let alone who was developing it.

GameSpot will update this story as developments warrant.

By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot POSTED: 03/10/04 12:04PM
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2004-06-11, 11:38 AM #8
Hrmm...I'm with Mystic0, even though I'm still in the middle of MP2. I'm loving the game though--fresh graphics, great ambience, love the new system for bullet time, etc. I think I'll be a diehard Max Payne fan for a while yet. I even have the mousepad from the first game--it's the one I use XD.

And who says that just because Rockstar's producing it it will wuck? We won't be able to see until it comes out. Red Dead Revolver, produced by Rockstar if I'm not mistaken, was a good game, not great, but good. Got good reviews at least.

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2004-06-11, 11:43 AM #9
The thing is they want to turn MP into some uber crap Grand Theft Auto game.

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2004-06-11, 11:47 AM #10
...just curious, SAJN, where are your sources for this info?

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2004-06-11, 11:54 AM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mystic0:
...just curious, SAJN, where are your sources for this info?

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2004-06-11, 11:58 AM #12
I'm not saying it will suck because it's coming from another developer, I'm saying that the story arc is done, another one will just mess up the great ending (not the alternate ending mind you) of MP2.
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2004-06-11, 12:02 PM #13
Well, that's what I thought after the first game. Max killed horne, and his loved one's were avenged. Yet the second game was still very good. The second one ends with resolution as well, but there is definatly room for another game.

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2004-06-11, 12:10 PM #14
I like rock*, alot. I don't think there should be a MP3, though.

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2004-06-11, 12:33 PM #15
I would just like to add that until the end, the entire Max Payne series made me depressed. At the end of Max Payne 2, expecially if you watch the credits and relax while thinking about what happened, it gives you a very happy and relieved feeling.

This resolution would make you think that it is a good time to end the series, yet I love the game so much that I can't help but desire a sequel.

edit: sorry, see Tofu's post.

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2004-06-11, 12:47 PM #16
Don't give away the alternate ending, or at least warn people first.
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2004-06-11, 12:58 PM #17
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil_Tofu:
I'm not saying it will suck because it's coming from another developer, I'm saying that the story arc is done, another one will just mess up the great ending (not the alternate ending mind you) of MP2.</font>



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2004-06-11, 1:03 PM #18
Don't give it away

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2004-06-11, 2:52 PM #19
Rockstar makes good games. they made Vice city, and that game still kicks a** even though its been out awhile.

Just be happy that modern-day Lucasarts isn't making it.


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2004-06-11, 3:26 PM #20
Personally I am still waiting for a Kung Fu mod for MP2.
2004-06-11, 6:27 PM #21
SPOILERS

Both Max Payne's are great fun Vlad is an awesome bad guy.

"What the f*ck is wrong with you, Max?!"

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2004-06-11, 6:40 PM #22
i just like killing crack addicts with cocktail bombs in MP1

"YARRREHHHH!H!H!H!H!!!"

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2004-06-11, 6:45 PM #23
It's coming... it's coming... the flesh! the flesh!

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2004-06-11, 8:21 PM #24
I greatly enjoyed both games, though to be honest I didn't heartily recommend the second to anyone. Why? It was ridiculously short for a game with no multiplayer component to provide replay value. Full price games are bloody expensive, you can get DVD box sets for cheaper, so if Max Payne 3 is as short as it's predecessor I'll be waiting till it hits the bargain bin no matter how good it is.

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2004-06-12, 4:35 AM #25
Same, I didn't buy it until it was half price at $25.

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2004-06-12, 6:13 AM #26
I just have one thing to say: Vlad is an ***. I really liked him in MP1, but then he turns on you in MP2. Russian *****.

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2004-06-12, 11:59 AM #27
Yeah, I was rather dissapointed, because I liked his charecter in the first game. He seemed like a witty and practical kind of guy who was always your "friend".

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2004-06-12, 1:04 PM #28
I didn't think the writing was nearly as good as the first, and I personally enjoyed Same Lake as Max Payne in the graphic novels better. However in terms of gameplay I enjoyed Max Payne 2 it a good deal more. Both of them are still in my list of all time favorites.

Edit: Oh and the lip synching in the second really pissed me off too, considering it was hardly implemented at all.

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