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sabre technique
2006-04-12, 4:16 PM #1
Was jsut watching episode 3 again recently and I was wondering what the name of the sword technique they use for the sabres is called.

Would be a neat workout routine if you can find training.
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2006-04-12, 4:21 PM #2
I happen to like the 'opus' technique.

But it's more of a 'saber' technique than a 'sabre' technique.
2006-04-12, 4:21 PM #3
Tea Bagging?

Or how about just swordery... with SWORDS!
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2006-04-12, 4:26 PM #4
Originally posted by saberopus:
I happen to like the 'opus' technique.

But it's more of a 'saber' technique than a 'sabre' technique.


It can be spelt both ways :D
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2006-04-12, 4:31 PM #5
[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]It can be spelt both ways :D[/QUOTE]

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2006-04-12, 5:18 PM #6
It's just choreographed action to loock cool. Any fencer would own them in a second. (Ignoring force of course)
2006-04-12, 5:20 PM #7
You say that Obi, however:

"Haha, I have prodded your chest, 1 point to m..."

*VWING*
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2006-04-12, 5:20 PM #8
well I fence epee so maybe I'm not quite as well informed on sabre, but as far as I know they just call it sabre, (ie "I fence sabre") not any kind of techinique, unless you're talking about one particular move.

...again, I've never even tried sabre. Yay for the lazy person's weapon
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2006-04-12, 5:24 PM #9
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
It's just choreographed action to loock cool. Any fencer would own them in a second. (Ignoring force of course)


Its based on real fighting styles.
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2006-04-12, 8:26 PM #10
Originally posted by Ruthven:
Tea Bagging?

Or how about just swordery... with SWORDS!


"Use of a... s'what?"
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2006-04-12, 8:30 PM #11
[QUOTE=Glyde Bane]It can be spelt both ways :D[/QUOTE]

sabre/saber can, but lightsaber is only spelled one way
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2006-04-12, 8:37 PM #12
Originally posted by MBeggar:
Its based on real fighting styles.



Yeah, with big hacking swords. Something weightless like that would have amazing point control. An epeeist could nail someone on the hand and it'd be all over.
2006-04-12, 9:01 PM #13
Hmmmm... nail someone on the hand... I don't think that's ever been done with a saber at all.
From what I understand, there are... like, 9? 9. Yeah, 9 specific styles of saber combat. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

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2006-04-12, 9:19 PM #14
Also, lightsabers have no guards. In a real fight, fingers would be flying.
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2006-04-12, 9:33 PM #15
Originally posted by bearded_jarl:
Hmmmm... nail someone on the hand... I don't think that's ever been done with a saber at all.
From what I understand, there are... like, 9? 9. Yeah, 9 specific styles of saber combat. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

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he was talking about epee, not sabre. In epee your main target is the hand, wrist and arm.
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2006-04-13, 1:03 AM #16
Originally posted by MBeggar:
Its based on real fighting styles.


Yeah, it's based on kendo, tennis and wood chopping.

At least that's what Nick Gillard said in some Ep1 interview.
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2006-04-13, 8:43 AM #17
I can't stand the fight sceens in Ep 3. I get the impression it's more basd in baton twirling and cheerleading than acualy fighting.
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2006-04-13, 10:20 AM #18
There is a point in Ep 3 where Anakin and Obi Wan literally just stand there and twirl their sabers in front of each other and don't actually do anything. Just before they smack each other each side of the room with force push.
2006-04-13, 10:43 AM #19
Originally posted by Recusant:
There is a point in Ep 3 where Anakin and Obi Wan literally just stand there and twirl their sabers in front of each other and don't actually do anything. Just before they smack each other each side of the room with force push.


It was just a big feint to see if the other would fall for it. At least I think so
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2006-04-13, 11:01 AM #20
Connery: "I'll take swords for $400."
Trebek: "It's actually not swords, sir. These are word that begin with 'S'. The answer is: 'Popeye is this sort of man.' [Reynolds buzzes in] Burt Reynolds."
Reynolds: "What is...Popeye?"
Trebek: "No. [Connery buzzes in] Sean Connery...and remember these are words that begin with 's' not swords."
Connery: "Sabre!"
Trebek: "No."
Connery: "It began with a bloody s!"


(I couldn't resist.)

I remember there being all sorts of different styles. I don't know if any of them were totally real. Mace's style was very unique. The Sith styles were different than the Jedi. A couple moves reminded me of some of the styles in JO and JA.
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2006-04-13, 12:03 PM #21
Mace uses Form VII (I think the name is vaapad), which is about as badass as you can get.
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2006-04-13, 1:51 PM #22
The real life choreographers for the fighting scenes in Ep. III were aweful. Especially Palpatine's.

Ugh.
2006-04-13, 2:42 PM #23
I still think Fav of mine is Darth Maul vs. Obiwan end of episode 1. That looked epic.

So, so far ive seen listed Kendo, and Form VII.

Any maybe non-related sword styles people recomend? I just want to try really different workout routines, Im not a "go to the gym" kinda guy.
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2006-04-13, 2:46 PM #24
I recommend the japenese sword style called Kendo. Almost all lightsaber battles in Star Wars are based off it also.
2006-04-13, 2:55 PM #25
Originally posted by DesertPike:
I still think Fav of mine is Darth Maul vs. Obiwan end of episode 1. That looked epic.

So, so far ive seen listed Kendo, and Form VII.

Any maybe non-related sword styles people recomend? I just want to try really different workout routines, Im not a "go to the gym" kinda guy.


More or less unrelated to swordness, but...

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http://www.warriorforce.com/nevergymless.html

Two teacherswho propose gymless exercise. Because I hate gyms. Bronzebow is more fitness and healthy, while Ross (warriorforce) is more athleticalyl oriented.

Bronzebow also is a big visualized resistance thing. Basically, you flex your muscles and move around. Can be so intense... I've gotten two extra pullups from just stopping pullups for a few days, and doing 'imaginary pullups'. I really think that you can get as strong as you want without weights.
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2006-04-13, 3:02 PM #26
Well, there's supposedly 7 forms of saber fighting, which are all detailed about on here, but I think that's mostly an EU thing that began surfacing around Episode II. As I find it a rather odd idea, even within a single discipline, such as Kendo you'll still find that nearly each practitioner develops his own "style" in the end. Even Nick Gillard mills on developing a form of fighting that suits the character being portrayed, rather than pondering "I wonder if he should use Soresu or Shien here."

But yeah, in the original trilogy the fights were much closer to kendo, in the prequels alot of acrobatics and indeed, inspirations from other sources such as tennis got involved.
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2006-04-13, 3:06 PM #27
Originally posted by Anovis:
I recommend the japenese sword style called Kendo. Almost all lightsaber battles in Star Wars are based off it also.

Especially prevalent in ESB... that one scene in the carbon freezing chamber just screams kendo. :)
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2006-04-13, 3:42 PM #28
Originally posted by Spook:
More or less unrelated to swordness, but...

[url]www.bronzebowpublishing.com[/url]

http://www.warriorforce.com/nevergymless.html

Two teacherswho propose gymless exercise. Because I hate gyms. Bronzebow is more fitness and healthy, while Ross (warriorforce) is more athleticalyl oriented.

Bronzebow also is a big visualized resistance thing. Basically, you flex your muscles and move around. Can be so intense... I've gotten two extra pullups from just stopping pullups for a few days, and doing 'imaginary pullups'. I really think that you can get as strong as you want without weights.


You can't build muscle without resistance...? I think. :-P. So if you're getting that through your flexing you can, but it would take longer...

I'm far from an expert
2006-04-13, 7:48 PM #29
In JK, the saber technique widely used was the "joust" technique. It involves charging at your opponent while doing a double swing and praying that you'll land a hit.

In JO, swinging your saber wildly like a fool while running in circles around your opponnent was the popular technique. Every now and then people would put their back towards their opponent and pray that a back swing will connect and kill them.

In JA, the JO style is adapted but with a few modifications. Spamming the super saber attacks and twiling the saber around hoping someone would stay still long enough to get hit were added to the mix.
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2006-04-13, 8:05 PM #30
Originally posted by SavageX378:
In JK, the saber technique widely used was the "joust" technique. It involves charging at your opponent while doing a double swing and praying that you'll land a hit.

In JO, swinging your saber wildly like a fool while running in circles around your opponnent was the popular technique. Every now and then people would put their back towards their opponent and pray that a back swing will connect and kill them.

In JA, the JO style is adapted but with a few modifications. Spamming the super saber attacks and twiling the saber around hoping someone would stay still long enough to get hit were added to the mix.


I *hate* people in JO that just use Fast and never let go of Attack. Those people have no skill whatsoever, and the practice is frowned upon. I use Fast, but in the sense of precision strikes. I make a hit and back off, until they're lying at my feet.
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2006-04-13, 8:10 PM #31
Originally posted by Koobie:
Also, lightsabers have no guards. In a real fight, fingers would be flying.

YES THEY DO!!! ITS MAGIC!!! :mad:


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2006-04-13, 8:31 PM #32
Originally posted by saberopus:
You can't build muscle without resistance...? I think. :-P. So if you're getting that through your flexing you can, but it would take longer...

I'm far from an expert


"Resistance" from an outside source is not a requirement for muscle improvement. Muscle tension is. All weights, calisthenics, and the rest do, are force your muscle to contract.

Also, it is important to learn to flex at maximum tension. People do not use 100% of the fibers in their muscles. Much of strength trianing is more 'practicing strength' than actually building muscles. When your muscles get smarter, and can recruit more muscle fibers, you can perform more work.

If you learn high muscle tension without needing a weight to provide it, you can build muscle equal, or better. It's not easy though.

The other neglected thing is isometric exercise, which not only strengthens tendons, but can really increase size quickly.
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