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2006-04-18, 2:58 AM #1
why are there so many conspiracy nuts in the U.S. most conspiracy theories I see seem to be "the government is evil and every disaster is caused by them."

Also, the ones that say that people didnt do X event is insulting to the human race itself. If you knew about history, you would realize that the technology in the roman empire when it fell was not developed again (and quite often the rediscovered version is pathetic compaired to the roman version) for 100's of years.

So, does america have an unusualy large amount of parioned schitzophrenics (or other disorders that cause wild delusions) or is it something aout the american culture.

P.S. the moon landings are real, most conspiracy theories ony talk about appolo 11, and totally forget about the other missions that landed. and their proof is made up of stuff that anyone that knows a decent amout about photography techneques can rebut.

(this came up after reading a "flight 93 was shot down" conspiracy thread on an IMDB thread.)
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2006-04-18, 4:39 AM #2
Oh please. You make it seem like America is the only country where conspiracy nuts live. People like them live throughout the world.

You are making generalizations again.
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2006-04-18, 4:41 AM #3
There are no generalizations, only the truth, you filthy fat burgerboy capitalist swine.
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2006-04-18, 4:43 AM #4
Remember Communists? I wish we had Communists again. They were so much easier to hate.
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2006-04-18, 4:43 AM #5
then why is it that most conspiracy theorists in other nations seem to have theories based around the american government, or theories that are simmilar to those that exist in the U.S.

Most conspiracy theories that are unusual that are based outside the U.S. are either in nations in which the government is widely recognised as being untrusworthy, or there is actualy some logical thought processes put into them.
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2006-04-18, 4:43 AM #6
Finland is capitalist too.
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2006-04-18, 4:43 AM #7
I think they have an unusually large amount of people with internet connections and too much spare time.
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2006-04-18, 4:47 AM #8
Originally posted by alpha1:
then why is it that most conspiracy theorists in other nations seem to have theories based around the american government, or theories that are simmilar to those that exist in the U.S.

Most conspiracy theories that are unusual that are based outside the U.S. are either in nations in which the government is widely recognised as being untrusworthy, or there is actualy some logical thought processes put into them.


HMMM. You might have something there. Could it be, a conspiracy about conspiracies! Could it be, hmm, that the US and the American governement is planting all the conspiracies! But why does it seem America is behind this? It must be a sign!
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2006-04-18, 4:53 AM #9
Originally posted by Echoman:
Finland is capitalist too.


Ran by social democrats.

And aren't social democrats SOCIALISTS OMG :rolleyes:
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2006-04-18, 6:18 AM #10
We all know the US Government is a liar. So... we just assume they lie about everything.


Because a rocket hit the pentagon...
2006-04-18, 7:00 AM #11
A rocket with wheels, wings, and luggage.
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2006-04-18, 8:25 AM #12
Originally posted by Axis:
We all know the US Government is a liar. So... we just assume they lie about everything.


Because a rocket hit the pentagon...


tell me axis, why the heck do you think a rocket hit the pentagon when the damage pattern clearly shows that an object the shape of an aeroplane that was filled with a jet grade quality of gasoline was the cause of the damage. Not to mention the plane parts that were found.

Thinking that your government is evil and could turn against you is fine if there is a culture and setting for corruption t run rampant. but the U.S. is not one of those places.

BTW. anyone can make their image come up first on google image search. just give it lots of key words, and searchbot it.
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2006-04-18, 8:27 AM #13
For the same reason we have crowds of loud, obnoxious protesters shouting straw man fallacies at no one in particular.
2006-04-18, 8:30 AM #14
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you sure you posted in the right thread. that doesnt realy seem to go along with anything before. unless you are refering to the first post.
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2006-04-18, 9:25 AM #15
Originally posted by alpha1:
why are there so many conspiracy nuts in the U.S. most conspiracy theories I see seem to be "the government is evil and every disaster is caused by them."


I'd tell you why there are so many comspiracy nuts, but you'd never hear from me again.

Maybe it's a result of 9 seasons of the X-Files.

Plus, I've noticed that most IMDB threads are moronic. Stay away from them, or you might get some on you.
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2006-04-18, 9:50 AM #16
Haha. And alpha said he never made stupid comments.
D E A T H
2006-04-18, 10:26 AM #17
Originally posted by alpha1:
why are there so many conspiracy nuts in the U.S.

It's mainly because... you know... people think about stuff... make deductions.... and form theories. Why is that hard to figure out on your own?
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2006-04-18, 10:46 AM #18
Originally posted by alpha1:
Most conspiracy theories that are unusual that are based outside the U.S. are either in nations in which the government is widely recognised as being untrusworthy, or there is actualy some logical thought processes put into them.
What about the Illuminati? The Knights Templar? Rumors of Soviet Russia experimenting with psychics, UFO technology, and other supernatural phenomenon? I've yet to see any logical proof of any of these, yet they seem to be quite popular worldwide.
2006-04-18, 10:48 AM #19
Originally posted by alpha1:
then why is it that most conspiracy theorists in other nations seem to have theories based around the american government, or theories that are simmilar to those that exist in the U.S.

Most conspiracy theories that are unusual that are based outside the U.S. are either in nations in which the government is widely recognised as being untrusworthy, or there is actualy some logical thought processes put into them.



Oh, I don't know. Maybe it has to something to do with the US being the most powerful nation in the world, which makes it an easy target for conspiracy theoires?
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2006-04-18, 10:57 AM #20
Can't you all see what's happening? Governments are causing us to fight each other! w00t for ten years of anarchy! :D
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2006-04-18, 12:28 PM #21
Quote:
(this came up after reading a "flight 93 was shot down" conspiracy thread on an IMDB thread.)
I actually wouldn't be surprised to find out that the plane *was* shot down. Not that I'd go on record saying either, but call records can be faked, and if you were leading a government and two planes had just flown into buildings and a third was off course and not responding to radio hails, what would you do?

I'd shoot it down in a heartbeat.

And, having said that, conspiracies do happen. There's a lot more going on in our government than the common man knows about. Even so, it doesn't really bother me, because whatever they're doing, they're doing for the good of the nation (99% of the time). For example, assuming that they did shoot down the plane, the advantages to having done so greatly outweight the consequences of letting it complete its journey.

Scenario 1. The plane is shot down. Losses include, the plane, the lives of the people on the plane, the missile used to shoot down the plane, and the fuel consumed by the jet/jets that shot down the plane.

Scenario 2. The plane is not shot down. It reaches its target and smashes into a large populated area. Losses include: the plane, the lives of the people on the plane, the lives of the people in the building that was destroyed, and the building itself. Overall, significantly more losses.
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2006-04-18, 12:51 PM #22
Originally posted by alpha1:
So, does america have an unusualy large amount of paranoid schizophrenics (or other disorders that cause wild delusions) or is it something aout the american culture.


It's human nature to question and doubt, some people just take it too far. I avoid situations by being overly paranoid. Someone says "The government covered it up" and I reply with "Piss off, they're too busy following me to do **** over there."

Usually shuts down conspiracy theorists... or at least the lazy ones.
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2006-04-18, 3:48 PM #23
[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Haha. And alpha said he never made stupid comments.[/QUOTE]

ummm...

and what does this contribute to the thread.

9and also, i actualy admitted that i had made some stupid comments in the past.) :rolleyes:

please stop your constant attacks on me, or I may just have to report you for harrassment.
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2006-04-18, 3:51 PM #24
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I actually wouldn't be surprised to find out that the plane *was* shot down. Not that I'd go on record saying either, but call records can be faked, and if you were leading a government and two planes had just flown into buildings and a third was off course and not responding to radio hails, what would you do?

I'd shoot it down in a heartbeat.

And, having said that, conspiracies do happen. There's a lot more going on in our government than the common man knows about. Even so, it doesn't really bother me, because whatever they're doing, they're doing for the good of the nation (99% of the time). For example, assuming that they did shoot down the plane, the advantages to having done so greatly outweight the consequences of letting it complete its journey.

Scenario 1. The plane is shot down. Losses include, the plane, the lives of the people on the plane, the missile used to shoot down the plane, and the fuel consumed by the jet/jets that shot down the plane.

Scenario 2. The plane is not shot down. It reaches its target and smashes into a large populated area. Losses include: the plane, the lives of the people on the plane, the lives of the people in the building that was destroyed, and the building itself. Overall, significantly more losses.


dude, that theory is actualy far less conspiracy nut than the one i read. (i.e. you arnt insulting people for not beleiveing it). If you were to have read that thread, you would see just how crazy some of those theories are. (well, more their so called evidence for their thoery)
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2006-04-18, 3:56 PM #25
Originally posted by alpha1:
ummm...

and what does this contribute to the thread.

9and also, i actualy admitted that i had made some stupid comments in the past.) :rolleyes:

please stop your constant attacks on me, or I may just have to report you for harrassment.

Uh...go for it? I'm not really scared about being "reported". And you said you never make them anymore. This thread proves that little theory of yours false.

But actually, I ENCOURAGE YOU to report me. Please. It would make my week to know that you care so much about what I say that you decided to report me for something so...trivial.
D E A T H
2006-04-18, 4:06 PM #26
None of you know what you are talking about

Stop it
2006-04-18, 4:08 PM #27
Originally posted by alpha1:
dude, that theory is actualy far less conspiracy nut than the one i read. (i.e. you arnt insulting people for not beleiveing it). If you were to have read that thread, you would see just how crazy some of those theories are. (well, more their so called evidence for their thoery)

eh, well.. I don't really buy into conspiracy theories. The theory that I put forth is more of a speculation based on what a government would probably do in that situation. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that's what happened, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out that I'm totally off. I just don't really care enough to take a stand either way.
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2006-04-18, 4:31 PM #28
Originally posted by Primate:
What about the Illuminati? The Knights Templar? Rumors of Soviet Russia experimenting with psychics, UFO technology, and other supernatural phenomenon? I've yet to see any logical proof of any of these, yet they seem to be quite popular worldwide.


but most of the people that beeive in those are not conspiracy nuts. Also, anything to do with theories about what a secretive, oppressive government has done is not really a conspiracy theory.
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2006-04-18, 4:33 PM #29
Originally posted by alpha1:
but most of the people that beeive in those are not conspiracy nuts. Also, anything to do with theories about what a secretive, oppressive government has done is not really a conspiracy theory.

Uh...you're flat out wrong. Sorry, but those are all very popular "Conspiracy theories". And you're completely wrong about the definition of conspiracy theory itself.
D E A T H
2006-04-18, 4:41 PM #30
please yoshi, if you have nothing useful to contribute other than attacking what I say, then please leave the thread.
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2006-04-18, 4:45 PM #31
...

Are you blind or something?
D E A T H
2006-04-18, 4:48 PM #32
how is attacking me a contribution. there are many opther posts here as well as mine you know. and usualy it is only my posts that you attack. so excuse me if I feel that you have some sort of personel vendetta against me.
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2006-04-18, 4:49 PM #33
Great defense. He challenges that you have a mistaken view of the topic and you respond by saying that you're being attacked.
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2006-04-18, 4:51 PM #34
I dont see him talking about anything else in the thread. not to mention that this also refers to the fact that some of his posts did not even refer to the topic in question.
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2006-04-18, 4:52 PM #35
The phrasing may have been a tad rude, but the content wasn't an attack :/.
2006-04-18, 4:52 PM #36
GUYS I DID NOT STRICTLY ADHERE TO THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD.

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D E A T H
2006-04-18, 4:54 PM #37
Quote:
Haha. And alpha said he never made stupid comments.


that looks like a personal attack to me.
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2006-04-18, 5:03 PM #38
That's because it is. But you're still wrong about conspiracy theories. :p
2006-04-18, 6:42 PM #39
Originally posted by alpha1:
but most of the people that beeive in those are not conspiracy nuts. Also, anything to do with theories about what a secretive, oppressive government has done is not really a conspiracy theory.
A. I really have no clue what you're trying to say here.
B. Conspiracy Theory

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