Massassi Forums Logo

This is the static archive of the Massassi Forums. The forums are closed indefinitely. Thanks for all the memories!

You can also download Super Old Archived Message Boards from when Massassi first started.

"View" counts are as of the day the forums were archived, and will no longer increase.

ForumsDiscussion Forum → I'm a little thompson, short and stout. This is my handle and this is my ***
12
I'm a little thompson, short and stout. This is my handle and this is my ***
2006-05-10, 4:00 AM #1
So any of you pshycopaths out here going to take action soon? This is getting stale. Suggie, you know people who know people... do something.

Quote:
Jack Thompson Seeks Talk Show Appearances Over Oblivion Re-rate:

Occasionally we receive a press release that's just too good to not publish, but this is the first time we've ever received one from a representative of Jack Thompson.

Probably because GamesFirst operates GamesFirst TV out of Buffalo, we received an e-mail this morning announcing Jack Thompson's availability for Talk Show interviews in regards to the Oblivion re-rating.

Normally we would just ignore this e-mail. However, reading over the details of the "talk show guest" offer, we couldn't help but notice some huge errors in their statements. You want to know why the mainstream media keeps getting the details all mixed up over issues like Hot Coffee? It's because of press releases like this.

It includes this sort of thing:

"This is not a modification or "mod" of the game by gamers. It is an unlocking of content that was put there by Take-Two with the unlocking code provided by the developer!"

If you're up for a laugh, or maybe just being a little pissed off, take a look at this press release. Any news agency willing to accept a guest speaker based on this information needs to reconsider their methods.


The Press Release:

"Last summer the video game industry was rocked by revelations that Take-Two Interactive, the makers of the hyper-violent Grand Theft Auto games, had illegally embedded in GTA: San Andreas graphic interactive adult sexual material. Take-Two lied and said it didn't do it.

The undersigned then prepped Senator Clinton for her "Hot Coffee" press conference, and all Heck broke loose. The House of Representatives voted 355-21 in asking the Federal Trade Commission to whack Take-Two for the fraud.

The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ordered a recall of all of the Mature-rated GTA: SA games, slapping an Adults-Only rating on it. The fraud cost Take-Two, conservatively, $50 million, which loss has resulted in class action shareholder lawsuits because of a plunge in Take-Two stock value.

You would think Take-Two would have learned its lesson, right? Wrong.

Its popular and newly released Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion has now been re-rated "Mature" and recalled by the ESRB because Take-Two and its co-publisher have been caught embedding nude figures and scenes in the game which can be unlocked with a code provided by the developer. This is not a modification or "mod" of the game by gamers. It is an unlocking of content that was put there by Take-Two with the unlocking code provided by the developer!

Expert guest, attorney Jack Thompson (and author of Out of Harm's Way, an expose on violent video games) is available to be your Talk Show interview guest to discuss this new scandal that has just exploded. During your interview, jack explains that this game is an even worse disaster than last year's' "Hot Coffee" scandal in that it has resulted in the re-rating of a "Teen" rated game that kids of all ages have already bought and secondly because it shows that the Take-Two and the ESRB and the industry as a whole learned absolutely nothing from last year's scandal.

Specifically, the ESRB has now admitted that it rated this game "Teen" without even reviewing the entire game, unlike the movie industry rating system that is based upon a movie seen in its entirety. The ESRB, which is supposed to be the guardian of kids, simply didn't even try to do its job.

The ESRB, once again, has been caught with its pants down. What Senator Clinton said last year, with the undersigned's help, is now more true than ever: "The entire video game rating system is broken."

It is also clear that Take-Two corporately and its senior officers, including CEO Paul Eibeler, individually, must now be prosecuted criminally for the knowing distribution of "sexual material harmful to minors" which is a felony in most states and nationally. The undersigned intends to work toward that end immediately.

Thompson, a graduate of Vanderbilt Law School, where he was a classmate of former Vice President Al Gore, shares with your audience how violent videos have a brain-altering effect that can lead to deadly results. During your interview, Thompson also gives antidotes from his new book, "Out of Harm's Way" (Tyndale House Publishers).

In Jack Thompson's new book, Out of Harm's Way, Jack puts the powerful video gaming industry in his cross hairs. Pointing to medical, scientific, and law enforcement evidence, the author shows how unhealthy and dangerous this popular "entertainment" has become-and how violent video games have been linked to the increase in school shootings. Lest the video gaming industry think Thompson is not capable of opposing their powerful stranglehold on the entertainment business, his history strongly suggests otherwise.

In Thompson's engrossing memoir-an account of a modern-day David's battle against the entertainment business, there is a much needed call to arms. Writing as one who has been at the front lines of the culture war for the past two decades, often standing right in the line of fire, Thompson explains the moral, legal, ethical, and racial implications of this battle and why it is vital that parents-and anyone else concerned about the health, safety, and well-being of children-understand it-and join the battle to stop violent video games-dead in their tracks.

VIDEO GAMES TARGETED BY JACK THOMPSON:

All the Grand Theft Auto games
The Warriors
Halo 2
Blitz: The League (Jack was on Anderson Cooper 360 about this game)
Brothers in Arms
Earned in Blood 50 Cent
Bulletproof True Crime
New York City Bully (not yet out)
25 to Life (not yet out)

ABOUT JACK THOMPSON...

A 1976 graduate of Vanderbilt Law School, where he was a classmate of Al Gore, Jack Thompson is a former "hands-off-business libertarian" and "First Amendment absolutist" who subsequently became convinced that the entertainment industry must be forced into taking responsibility for the brain-altering and deadly results of the violence and indecency it is spewing into millions of homes, families, and minds.

An attorney specializing in litigation against the entertainment industry since 1987, he has been interviewed for hundreds of radio and TV programs about the link between violent video games and teen violence. His legal successes include: securing the first FCC decency fines (1989); securing the first verdict that a sound recording is obscene (2 Live Crew case in 1990); forced Time Warner to pull rapper Ice-T's "Cop Killer" from store shelves worldwide (1992); and received ACLU's "Top Ten Censors of the Year Award" (1992).

Recently, Thompson has represented parents of three girls shot at a school in Paducah, Ky., by a 14-year-old video gamer. He also got shock jock Howard Stern kicked off all Clear Channel radio stations and Clear Channel fined $495,000 for illegal indecent broadcasts. He also successfully predicted a "Columbine-type" incident on national television one week before it occurred, and he also predicted that the DC Beltway Sniper triggerman would be "trained on a sniper video game."

A frequent speaker on college campuses, Thompson lives with his family in south Florida where he is a lay leader in his Presbyterian church.

Suggested Interview Questions for Jack Thompson, author of "Out of Harm's Way":

Jack on Video Games:

* Do you really believe violent games lead to violence? What proof do you have?
* Can video games really permanently alter a persons brain?
* Isn't this really just a parent's responsibility, not the government's?
* Are you opposed to all video games or just some?
* Tell me one story that would be most likely to cause a listener to share your concern that video games cause violent behaviors?
* What is the solution to the play of so many violent games by kids?
* Are violent games really being sold to minors?
* Didn't you play cops and robbers as a kid?
* Are all violent games bad or just some?
* Do you think we're going to see more laws against the sales of violent games?
* Is this a Republican issue or a Democratic issue?
* Aren't Republicans supposed to be opposed to more government regulating our lives?
* Where does your regulation end? Aren't you putting us on a slipper slope of censorship?
* What are some of the video game companies that you believe are acting irresponsibly?"
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 4:55 AM #2
Wait, isn't the ACLU's "Censor of the Year Award" kind of a joke?

Also, stupid video game studies. :mad:
Ban Jin!
Nobody really needs work when you have awesome. - xhuxus
2006-05-10, 5:15 AM #3
Quote:
three girls shot at a school in Paducah, Ky., by a 14-year-old video gamer.


omg, no way! I'm a video gamer!

I bet he breathed air like me also :eek:
"DON'T TASE ME BRO!" lol
2006-05-10, 5:16 AM #4
Originally posted by Space_Bandit:
omg, no way! I'm a video gamer!

I bet he breathed air like me also :eek:


And had a penis.
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 5:16 AM #5
No way!

*runs*
"DON'T TASE ME BRO!" lol
2006-05-10, 5:23 AM #6
Originally posted by Space_Bandit:
omg, no way! I'm a video gamer!

I bet he breathed air like me also :eek:


hehe
2006-05-10, 6:27 AM #7
I think I'm confused.

Is it Take Two's fault? Wasn't Bethesda the one that actually made Oblivion?
2006-05-10, 6:38 AM #8
I love how nudity is more of an issue than violence :rolleyes:


Can anyone actually explain why nudity is bad? Even to a minor... I dont understand. I guess I can kinda see why sexual acts are considered bad for minors to see but nudity being 'bad' always confused me. If society diddnt make such a big deal out of nudity it wouldn't be an issue.
TheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWho
SaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTh
eJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSa
ysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJ
k
WhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSays
N
iTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkWhoSaysNiTheJkW
2006-05-10, 6:38 AM #9
Quote:
Thompson also gives antidotes from his new book, "Out of Harm's Way" (Tyndale House Publishers).



please tell me that is actually how the press release reads
eat right, exercise, die anyway
2006-05-10, 6:41 AM #10
Its neither's fault.

This article claims that it was some unlockable feature with a provided code, which is bull****. I'm in that community and I saw how the modders who developped that topless mod did it.

Bethesda's orginal female skins were naked and had nipples, but the game was codded to place unremovable undergarments over the top of the breasts and crotch area. It was a modder who removed them through coding and some altering of the skin.

The statement in the above Press Release is thus wrong. They claim that it could be done without the use of a mod and through some code similar to unlockables on consoles. Also note that this is not something that could happen on the 360 version. The ESBR ratings made a big deal out of something minor, and now Thompson and his crew are twisting words to fuel their war against video gaming.
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 7:06 AM #11
Remember the WWF warzone on the N64?

You can get topless models in that with Gameshark.
2006-05-10, 7:07 AM #12
I hope Jack Thompson dies. Honestly, people that stupid do not deserve to live.
2006-05-10, 7:09 AM #13
If people would just ignore him this wouldn't be a problem. He's like a huge troll, and people keep taking the bait.
2006-05-10, 7:12 AM #14
Lets feed him pepto bismol tablets.

If he's anything like a pigeon, his stomach will explode.
2006-05-10, 7:12 AM #15
Why should I sit around while some ignorant ******* tries to have my rights to play a video game of my choosing taken away?
2006-05-10, 7:14 AM #16
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
If people would just ignore him this wouldn't be a problem. He's like a huge troll, and people keep taking the bait.


Wrong. He would win and we'd lose our right to play videogames.
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 7:17 AM #17
I bet he goes after masturbation if he ever finishes with video games.

"Columbine was caused by masturbation. THOSE KIDS LOVED TO MASTURBATE TO PRETTY GIRLS, AND THATS WHY THEY SHOT THEM."

"They shot guys too..."

"THEY WERE ALSO GAY. WHICH IS A PROBLEM I'LL TOUCH UPON LATER BECAUSE I JACK THOMPSON AM A STUCK UP LUNATIC WITH SEEMINGLY NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PISS INNOCENT PEOPLE OFF."

Well actually, now that I think about it. Masturbation whould be a privelage, and not a right.

Imagine how much more productive people (especially men) would be if you had to EARN the right to come home and masturbate because your significant other won't put out.
2006-05-10, 7:24 AM #18
lol
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 8:02 AM #19
I've got a new favorite Rob post!
Ban Jin!
Nobody really needs work when you have awesome. - xhuxus
2006-05-10, 8:08 AM #20
Oh god I hope I qualify.
Stuff
2006-05-10, 9:22 AM #21
Quote:
* Do you really believe violent games lead to violence? What proof do you have?
* Can video games really permanently alter a persons brain?
* Isn't this really just a parent's responsibility, not the government's?
* Are you opposed to all video games or just some?
* Tell me one story that would be most likely to cause a listener to share your concern that video games cause violent behaviors?
* What is the solution to the play of so many violent games by kids?
* Are violent games really being sold to minors?
* Didn't you play cops and robbers as a kid?
* Are all violent games bad or just some?
* Do you think we're going to see more laws against the sales of violent games?
* Is this a Republican issue or a Democratic issue?
* Aren't Republicans supposed to be opposed to more government regulating our lives?
* Where does your regulation end? Aren't you putting us on a slipper slope of censorship?
* What are some of the video game companies that you believe are acting irresponsibly?"


I would like to see Jack's answers to these questions.
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2006-05-10, 9:29 AM #22
You know, I'd like to see this guy do a one on one with Jon Stewart. It would be like Crossfire all over again!
Ban Jin!
Nobody really needs work when you have awesome. - xhuxus
2006-05-10, 10:00 AM #23
You know someone is an idiot when they willingly attempt to associate themself with Al Gore.
Democracy: rule by the stupid
2006-05-10, 10:23 AM #24
Originally posted by SMOCK!:
You know, I'd like to see this guy do a one on one with Jon Stewart. It would be like Crossfire all over again!


I vote for a three-way between Thompson, Colbert, and Stewart. That would be a spectacle.
Marsz, marsz, Dąbrowski,
Z ziemi włoskiej do Polski,
Za twoim przewodem
Złączym się z narodem.
2006-05-10, 10:40 AM #25
Originally posted by Jepman:
So any of you pshycopaths out here going to take action soon? This is getting stale. Suggie, you know people who know people... do something.


I could be wrong, but I think that only works when putting a hit on a guy who's been an ******* to a woman/girl. Or if you're me, which may or may not be the same thing <_<
The Plothole: a home for amateur, inclusive, collaborative stories
http://forums.theplothole.net
2006-05-10, 10:59 AM #26
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I could be wrong, but I think that only works when putting a hit on a guy who's been an ******* to a woman/girl. Or if you're me, which may or may not be the same thing <_<


Well she did offer it to me after my ex was a ************************breath********* to me. Ridding us of Jack Thompson is good for all genders, animaldom and the whole of the universe.
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 12:49 PM #27
I dont know who this jack Thompson is, but i'm perfectly willing to jump on the bandwagon here and say...

OMG JACKTHOMPSON SUCKS Y'ALL LOLZ!!11
Code:
if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}
2006-05-10, 12:54 PM #28
Originally posted by Ruthven:
I dont know who this jack Thompson is, but i'm perfectly willing to jump on the bandwagon here and say...

OMG JACKTHOMPSON SUCKS Y'ALL LOLZ!!11


But wez didzn't zayz it likez that yo. :( LOLZ!!11
Was cheated out of lions by happydud
Was cheated out of marriage by sugarless
2006-05-10, 1:06 PM #29
Originally posted by TheJkWhoSaysNi:
Can anyone actually explain why nudity is bad? Even to a minor... I dont understand. I guess I can kinda see why sexual acts are considered bad for minors to see but nudity being 'bad' always confused me. If society diddnt make such a big deal out of nudity it wouldn't be an issue.


Because America's morals are descended from religious values, which generally oppose such things? :p
2006-05-10, 1:09 PM #30
BUT ADAM AND EVE WAER TEH NEKKIDS!
Think while it's still legal.
2006-05-10, 1:10 PM #31
BUT THEN TEHY SINED AND WERE NEVAR ALOWED TO BE NAKEDD AGAIN
2006-05-10, 1:20 PM #32
I still don't understand why jack thompson is still alive. Since he's been attacking games (and gamers), and since playing videogames OBVIOUSLY leads to extreme acts of violence, then shouldn't he have been killed by now?

I mean, really. If we're all bloodthirsty homicidal maniacs, wouldn't he be our primary target?
Moo.
2006-05-10, 3:05 PM #33
Does that mean I should buy Oblivion now before they patch it up to stop the naked females?
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2006-05-10, 3:10 PM #34
Originally posted by Oxyonagon:
Does that mean I should buy Oblivion now before they patch it up to stop the naked females?

Depends. Are you so inept at finding porn that you have to use nude models in video games? ;)
2006-05-10, 3:30 PM #35
No, I just don't like seeing giant gran-sized underwear when I change armours. I prefer seeing .. uh.. other stuff.
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2006-05-10, 3:33 PM #36
Gran-sized?

Either these models are huge, or your gran is tiny.
nope.
2006-05-10, 3:35 PM #37
well I dunno, morrowind's ones were pretty awful.
Sneaky sneaks. I'm actually a werewolf. Woof.
2006-05-10, 4:27 PM #38
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
If people would just ignore him this wouldn't be a problem. He's like a huge troll, and people keep taking the bait.


Not really. The problem is not that people get angry at him and give him attention. The problem is that people believe what he's saying.
If you think the waiters are rude, you should see the manager.
2006-05-10, 6:07 PM #39
Yeah... like Hillary Clinton, and other people who don't matter. Who believes him who actually has an iota of intelligence? (Hillary has an itoa of intelligence, she's just trying to create an issue just to get votes. I doubt it'll work.)
2006-05-11, 1:18 AM #40
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Yeah... like Hillary Clinton, and other people who don't matter.

Yeah, because no one listens to Hillary...
omnia mea mecum porto
12

↑ Up to the top!