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Mario's in for a big surprise...
2006-05-17, 8:32 AM #1
Thanks to certain people on this site, I have become a regular reader of Dinosaur Comics. Ryan North, the comic's author, was recently interviewed by The Torontoist, which mentioned a rather interesting incident...

Originally posted by The Torontoist:
You were recently involved in the arrest of some 15 year old girls in Ravenna, Ohio. What happened?

A friend of mine who goes by the name “Posterchild”, because some of what he does is technically illegal, made these three cubes and painted them so they looked like the question blocks from Mario Brothers and put them up in Windsor. The politics behind it was that public spaces can be grey and uniform, especially in a town like Windsor. Why is it that you can put up an advertisement in a park or street, but you can’t put art there? His idea was that instead of putting art in a gallery, he’d put art in the streets. People react and respond to it: you get the public engaged in their environment. I put up a website a year ago with instructions, and people made their own blocks all over the States, Australia and the U.K. I found one in Toronto, it’s up in my living room right now.

On April 1st this year, these girls in Ravenna made some boxes and people who saw them called the police. The anti-terrorism squad got called in to diffuse them, as if they were bombs.

[Torontoist and Ryan snicker]

I shouldn’t laugh. I ended up updating the site, warning that if you don’t know what the Mario Brothers are, a big box with a question mark on it might seem like a bomb. From what I heard, the Mayor of Ravenna was pissed that they had wasted the bomb squad’s time and money and wanted to find a way to make the girls pay for it. They were trying to find something they could charge the girls with and throw them in jail, but they couldn’t because there wasn’t a law prohibiting it. Since the press was watching the story, the town said that they wouldn’t charge the girls if they wrote a letter of apology to every law enforcement agency involved saying that they wouldn’t do it again. The girls said they were making t-shirts for themselves and some teachers that had been supportive with a question block on the front and the phrase “NOT A BOMB” written on the back.

When the story broke, I started getting 4-5 e-mails a minute. The story ended up getting reported on all the major cultural websites, and I even got an e-mail from Jack Thompson, the video game crusader, who called ME a jerk. But he’s belligerent and crazy.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
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2006-05-17, 8:37 AM #2
I want instructions on making the question blocks. What is the site that was mention?
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2006-05-17, 8:39 AM #3
Ooh, question boxes.

I wonder if you can get them to spit out coins :)
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2006-05-17, 8:44 AM #4
Originally posted by Echoman:
I want instructions on making the question blocks. What is the site that was mention?


It wasn't specified in the interview, but I'm sure a cursory search of qwantz would link the site.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2006-05-17, 8:50 AM #5
OH NOS. SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB.


the internet is serious business
free(jin);
tofu sucks
2006-05-17, 8:52 AM #6
"and I even got an e-mail from Jack Thompson, the video game crusader, who called ME a jerk. But he’s belligerent and crazy."

Hehehe. :)
2006-05-17, 8:53 AM #7
http://www.qwantz.com/posterchild/
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2006-05-17, 8:53 AM #8
Question boxes with bombs in them?

Someone call Batman, the Riddler is afoot!
nope.
2006-05-17, 9:17 AM #9
Hey, this is like my idea for the Mystery Box, but it uses Mario stuff! Cool!
Ban Jin!
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2006-05-17, 9:29 AM #10
The thing is, their boxes loosely look like the question marks from Mario. Had I not known before what I was looking at in the pictures, I can't honestly say I would make that connection.
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2006-05-17, 10:19 AM #11
There are some really good ones on the site, though.
Hmm... string up a few of these around campus... :em321:
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2006-05-17, 10:27 AM #12
I might do it... then again, comments like these are a big turnoff (taken from Ohio newspaper site)

Quote:
Comments
I think the girls should be charged, whether it was harmless or not, it caused alarm in the community and the time and effort of the police department, the bomb squad and the hazardous materials people. What if there would have been a real emergency and they were all tied up with dealing with this nonsense. You people that think this is funny are sick. Some older person could have had a heart attack from fear. Lock em all up!!!!!!

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2006-05-17, 10:59 AM #13
old people have heart attacks all the time, they need to stop whining
2006-05-17, 11:31 AM #14
i live near ravenna.

its a backwards little hick town.

frankly i'm suprised even the younger generation had even heard of Mario.
My girlfriend paid a lot of money for that tv; I want to watch ALL OF IT. - JM
2006-05-17, 12:32 PM #15
I think I will do this at school.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2006-05-17, 12:52 PM #16
Bull ****! The law screwed up, the law should pay for it. There never was an indication or a threat of a bomb. They screwed up, and they should be writing the apology letters.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-05-17, 12:55 PM #17
1. People are paranoid.
2. People are especially paranoid of enticing mystery boxes left in public areas.
nope.
2006-05-17, 1:08 PM #18
Originally posted by Baconfish:
1. People are paranoid.
2. People are especially paranoid of enticing mystery boxes left in public areas.


1.- There was no danger
2.- There were no threats or indication of such
3.- People were wrongfuly arrested

Its apparent to me, that they want to try and not make themselves look worse than what they already are by making them write an apology letter, and promise to not do it again. The only problem of this is, what are they going to apologize for? In no moment did they break the law. What are they never going to do again? They did nothing wrong, and yet again, they did not break the law. On the other hand the police should write them an apology note for disturbing their peace, arresting them for no true reason, and the humilation they must have gone through, they are still going through. Trust me, the police are in the wrong. Its like when you punch some one and later find out it was the wrong person, and still you want them to apologize for the misunderstanding.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-05-17, 1:17 PM #19
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
1.- There was no danger
2.- There were no threats or indication of such
3.- People were wrongfuly arrested


1. That wouldn't have been known until the bomb squad arrived because people had their suspicions, and nobody in their right mind would go near there. Even mexicans with kung-fu ninja skills.
2. Yes, because when the intent is to harm someone, they always warn you.
- "Hey, hey Abe, can you turn around from watching the act, I'm going to shoot you now."
3. Disturbing the peace. Oh, and what was mistaken probably cost people money to bring law enforcement agencies about, so although not arrest, they should probably have been given a fine.
nope.
2006-05-17, 1:24 PM #20
Don't bomb-ombs come out of those blocks in SSB or SSBM?
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2006-05-17, 1:27 PM #21
Originally posted by Baconfish:
1. People are paranoid.
2. People are especially paranoid of enticing mystery boxes left in public areas.

shut up. there could have been drugs in that box. Or guns. Guns would have been cool.

:|
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2006-05-17, 1:48 PM #22
Originally posted by Baconfish:
1. That wouldn't have been known until the bomb squad arrived because people had their suspicions, and nobody in their right mind would go near there. Even mexicans with kung-fu ninja skills.
2. Yes, because when the intent is to harm someone, they always warn you.
- "Hey, hey Abe, can you turn around from watching the act, I'm going to shoot you now."
3. Disturbing the peace. Oh, and what was mistaken probably cost people money to bring law enforcement agencies about, so although not arrest, they should probably have been given a fine.


A fine for what? The are not guilty of anything. My whole point is, the girls do not deserve any form of punishment and should not apologize to anyone.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-05-17, 2:19 PM #23
they may be guilty of littering...
*shrug*

depending on how the laws are written. If not, though, then I have to say I agree with SF_Gold.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2006-05-17, 2:25 PM #24
Its called street art.

Its not their fault that people freaked out about a box with a question mark on it.
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2006-05-17, 4:20 PM #25
They're not being prosecuted. Link

On a related note I was scrimmaging through the original website ...

Quote:
CASPER, NY, USA:Alexis made some question blocks to put up in his town, but discovered that someone named Hyena had discovered them, replaced them with a mobile of coins, and demanded a ransom of five more blocks. Alexis left a note saying she doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Here's a larger picture of the coin mobile.
2006-05-17, 4:40 PM #26
Its understandable that people got woried about Boxes marked "?". Most other times id be annoyed that they were being forced to write apologies
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2006-05-17, 5:02 PM #27
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
On the other hand the police should write them an apology note for disturbing their peace, arresting them for no true reason, and the humilation they must have gone through, they are still going through. Trust me, the police are in the wrong.


Actually, the girls said they turned themselves in immediately.

Also, the police aren't the ones at fault, really, it's more the people who called in the police.

When the police receive a call about a possible bomb threat, they are obliged to investigate it. What do you think the public response would be if someone called in and said, "There's a bomb on the church doorstep!" and the police said, "No, you're full of it."

That may be the case, but what then would happen if it actually WERE a bomb? People can hide dangerous things in innocuous places (e.g. razors in Halloween candy, opening your mailbox to find exploding chemicals). While the idea of putting art in public places is always a noble idea, the notion of a "mystery box" only invites the natural fear of the unknown.

The police are there to serve and protect, if they just looked at the box and brushed it off, people would be even more outraged. Also, in bringing in high-tech equipment and not risking lives by investigating a bomb claim, the police do incur a lot of costs. It would have cost more if someone had just opened the box and it had exploded in their face. Since the police are probably not going to expect two teenage girls to finance the use of their bomb detection unit... they held them and asked for a letter of apology. The fact that they USED a bomb squad unit to investigate question mark boxes is admittedly ridiculous - the person who called in the bomb claim should feel embarrassed about that.

While as an innocent-minded young adult, I would be quick to take a mystery box for fun, in no way do I expect someone older who may have been burned by false hopes in the past and through greater experience to react the same way.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2006-05-17, 5:05 PM #28
Originally posted by MBeggar:
Its called street art.


Which is dubiously illegal. Mystery boxes are one thing, but if you allow those, they you allow things like garish letters, often with gang symbols or obscenity, do not "brighten up" an urban scene. Most communities feel that they are an eyesore.
Cordially,
Lord Tiberius Grismath
1473 for '1337' posts.
2006-05-17, 5:50 PM #29
I live in Windsor, it never gets mentioned in anything.
2006-05-17, 6:01 PM #30
Originally posted by Baconfish:
1. That wouldn't have been known until the bomb squad arrived because people had their suspicions, and nobody in their right mind would go near there. Even mexicans with kung-fu ninja skills.
2. Yes, because when the intent is to harm someone, they always warn you.
- "Hey, hey Abe, can you turn around from watching the act, I'm going to shoot you now."
3. Disturbing the peace. Oh, and what was mistaken probably cost people money to bring law enforcement agencies about, so although not arrest, they should probably have been given a fine.



Anyone smart enough to make a bomb would not be dumb enough to put it in a mystery box in the middle of he park.
2006-05-17, 6:17 PM #31
Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
Anyone smart enough to make a bomb would not be dumb enough to put it in a mystery box in the middle of he park.


This is the kind of single-mindedness that gets people killed.


Here's a scenario; Someone sees a mystery box, gets scared thinking it could be a bomb, and calls the police. The police come, call in the bomb squad, all of that. They find out that the mystery box is nothing but a joke by some girls who thought it would be funny. Like what actually happened, right?

Then another box pops up in the same fashion. Someone calls the police. The police get there, see the "mystery box" and say, "Oh, it's just one of those again. Nothing to worry about." and leave.

Mr. Crazy gets an idea. Mr. Crazy then sets up another mystery box, in an identical fashion to the last two, except this time it IS a bomb. Again, people shrug it off, thinking it's just another joke, and don't do anything about it.

Boom. People die.

The point is, the police can not take that kind of chance. They can not afford to screw up or slack off, because when they do, people die, and lives are infinitely more important than time or money.
Moo.
2006-05-17, 7:10 PM #32
Originally posted by Lord_Grismath:
Which is dubiously illegal. Mystery boxes are one thing, but if you allow those, they you allow things like garish letters, often with gang symbols or obscenity, do not "brighten up" an urban scene. Most communities feel that they are an eyesore.



click the following link for garish letters, gang symbols, and obscenity:
http://www.woostercollective.com/



Honestly, I understand what you mean. But there is another side to it that has nothing to do with gangs.
[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.
2006-05-17, 7:32 PM #33
If life is soo important to them than why are they soo interested in getting a bloody fine or apology letter? Sure time and money was lost... but a life is a thousand times more important than these. Plus, thats where tax funding goes to, and thats what the police is for. So they served and protected the community. Served the community and protected it from nothing.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-05-17, 7:56 PM #34
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
If life is soo important to them than why are they soo interested in getting a bloody fine or apology letter? Sure time and money was lost... but a life is a thousand times more important than these. Plus, thats where tax funding goes to, and thats what the police is for. So they served and protected the community. Served the community and protected it from nothing.


You just discreditted your own point.

No lives were saved, so the money that they spent was completely wasted, so naturally they'd want some sort of compensation.
Moo.
2006-05-17, 8:40 PM #35
You know what they say: "You can never be too safe." I think the police did the right thing in this case even though the boxes weren't bombs.
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2006-05-17, 8:49 PM #36
Originally posted by Lord_Grismath:
Which is dubiously illegal. Mystery boxes are one thing, but if you allow those, they you allow things like garish letters, often with gang symbols or obscenity, do not "brighten up" an urban scene. Most communities feel that they are an eyesore.


FYI, almost no "art" graffiti (and by that I mean just about anything that isn't just spraypainted line-letters--stuff that had work put into it) is gang-related. Gang graffiti is usually done quickly, to mark territory.

Also: nobody who wants to blow stuff up will put the bomb in a big question mark box. :p
2006-05-17, 11:08 PM #37
What has the world come to? Pretty soon we'll be paranoid of tennis balls because they "could have grenades in them!" :rolleyes:
2006-05-17, 11:54 PM #38
Originally posted by Delphian:
What has the world come to? Pretty soon we'll be paranoid of tennis balls because they "could have grenades in them!" :rolleyes:


People didn't used to be afraid of unattended backpacks until they started exploding.

The marines in Iraq didn't used to be afraid of abandoned cars, or even roadkill, until people started putting bombs in them.


Point is, if someone is trying to hurt us, be it terrorists, lunatics, or what have you, they're going to find the most efficient way to do it. More often then not, that means taking us by surprise. In the case of bombs, it means planting them in ways, and in places, that we wouldn't normally expect.

Things like that have already happened, and lives have already been lost. As I've already said, the police can not take that kind of chance anymore.

Would you rather them be too careful, and ***** about false alarms, or would you rather them slack off and ignore a real threat, and watch people die?
Moo.
2006-05-18, 5:03 AM #39
Originally posted by A_Big_Fat_CoW:
Would you rather them be too careful, and ***** about false alarms, or would you rather them slack off and ignore a real threat, and watch people die?

I would rather they do their job and be suspicious, but do not force us to limit ourselves. Their job is to allow us to lead our normal lives as safely as possible, not to restrict freedom. I don't mind them taking the things down because they scare some people, but they should not punish the girls. I wouldn't mind if they gave them a little talking to about not scaring people, but the girls were just trying to lighten the mood.
Ban Jin!
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2006-05-18, 5:08 AM #40
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']Also: nobody who wants to blow stuff up will put the bomb in a big question mark box. :p


What about the Riddler?

Plus, if the intent was to harm, wouldn't it be smart for them to put some kind of switch on the bomb inside so that it goes off when the lid is removed?

The question mark arouses curiosity.
nope.
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