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MLA help
2006-05-29, 10:40 AM #1
Does anybody know how to 'works cite' something from Wikipedia. Its a web site but its also an encyclopedia. Ive been googling for hours trying to find some help :mad:
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2006-05-29, 10:46 AM #2
Cite it as an online cource without an author.
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2006-05-29, 10:51 AM #3
So how would I internally cite that?
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2006-05-29, 10:59 AM #4
Look for "Cite this Article" down on the left panel

it should give you a page with several Citing styles, for example, MLA on Greece

MLA style

"Ancient Greece." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 28 May 2006, 20:53 UTC. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 29 May 2006 <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ancient_Greece&oldid=55625416>.
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2006-05-29, 10:59 AM #5
For important papers, isn't Wiki not such a good place to cite?
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2006-05-29, 11:05 AM #6
Yes, since the information isn't always accurate. You know, because pretty much anyone can go in and edit the pages.
2006-05-29, 11:17 AM #7
You should go to the links that the wiki article has cited and cite those instead. Some teachers/professors won't even accept wikipedia as a valid source.
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2006-05-29, 11:19 AM #8
[url]www.easybib.com[/url]
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2006-05-29, 11:33 AM #9
Using Wiki as a source isn't what he was asking about. Why even bring it up?
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2006-05-29, 11:44 AM #10
Encyclopedias are generally inaccurate anyway, as are academic papers or anything else. Any source is valid as long as it is supported by others. For every fact your papers (or whatever) use, it should be found in at least two independent sources.

At my university, we are allowed to use anything as a source, but over-reliance on any single source results in a mark penalty because it means we haven't done the research properly.

But, anywho. As Genk said, there's a link for citing wikipedia articles.
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2006-05-29, 12:09 PM #11
How would I internally cite something without an author? For example:

blah blah blah blah (Author pg. number)

That's how we cite for a book. I wanted to know how you do that for a website.
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2006-05-29, 12:12 PM #12
17. Unknown Author. “Proof of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic” Accessed Feb. 2006 http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/ProofOfFundamentalTheoremOfArithmetic.html

That's a web reference from an essay I wrote recently. The important thing is the date of access because web content can change.
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2006-05-29, 12:20 PM #13
I think he meant in text. You use the article title if there is no author, then the web address for the article i think.
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2006-05-29, 12:23 PM #14
Well, i'd use numbered references as it makes things easier to read. Then you can use footnotes or endnotes.
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2006-05-29, 12:29 PM #15
Yeah, that would make it easier if you're dealing with online sources with no authors.
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2006-05-29, 1:29 PM #16
Originally posted by spud:
Yes, since the information isn't always accurate. You know, because pretty much anyone can go in and edit the pages.



Quote:
THE clash of the publishing titans continues. Encyclopaedia Britannica has hit back at a study by Nature published in December 2005 claiming that its accuracy is only slightly better than the free online resource Wikipedia.

According to the survey, in 42 matching pairs of science entries on topics from Agent Orange to the West Nile virus, Wikipedia made 162 errors, which "comes close" to its competitor's 123.

Britannica angrily disputed the results on its website, and has run half-page adverts in major newspapers in the US and the UK this week. "We rebutted the Nature study because it was done badly," says Tom Panelas, head of corporate communications at Britannica.

Nature stands by its findings. "We reject those accusations," says Jim Giles, co-author of the report, "and are confident our comparison was fair."

One of the biggest threats to printed encyclopedias is the availability of information online. With over a million articles, compared with Britannica's 65,000 in its print version and 120,000 online, Wikipedia eclipses its competitor in terms of sheer number of entries. It has, for example, an entry on Encyclopaedia Britannica. The gesture has not been reciprocated.

New Scientist, 30 March 2006

So pretty much what Detty said. Wikipedia is a perfectly good source, as long as it's not the only one you're using. Anything you take from there, google it to back it up with another source.
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2006-05-29, 2:13 PM #17
Why don't you check your MLA book?

Mine (6th ed) on inline citations:

Quote:
If you wish to cite an entire work--[... such as] an electronic publication that has no pagination or other type of reference markers--it is usually preferable to include in the text, rather than in a parenthetical reference, the name of the person (e.g., author, editor, director, performer) that begins the corresponding entry in the works-cited list.


So basically, cite the article properly in your list of works cited, then do something like (this is the MLA example):
Quote:
William J. Mitchell's City of Bits discusses architecture and urban life in ...


(This all can be found on pgs. 242-3 (section 6.4-6.4.1) in the MLA 6th edition)
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2006-05-29, 2:43 PM #18
Originally posted by Echoman:
For important papers, isn't Wiki not such a good place to cite?

NEVER!!! I will never listen to that dumb librarian telling me google sucks and all of wikipedia's information is wrong... Its so annoying! And every time a teacher books time in the library, she gives us a 30 minute speech (THE EXACT SAME ONE EVERY TIME!) about how to use the internet. IT SUCKS. She takes away so much class time, and won't shut up. "Oh and one for thing" again and again. AHHHHHHHH! You'd think that high school students know how to use the internet! I understand that wikipedia is a source that should be regarded wearily, but the false information that gets posted gets changed almost immediately. K... my rant is over.
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2006-05-29, 2:48 PM #19
When I was doing my physics A-level coursework, I cited Wiki a number of times.

I just used:

“Permeability (magnetism)”. Wikipedia. 24 Mar. 2006
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_%28electromagnetism%29 >

Page title, location, date of access, URL. Did me fine.
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2006-05-29, 4:00 PM #20
[QUOTE=Double Helix] I understand that wikipedia is a source that should be regarded wearily, but the false information that gets posted gets changed almost immediately. K... my rant is over.[/QUOTE]

The problem is the course I take, it is required that sources have to written by a professional in the field. While there are fact-checkers, you don't know if they are really in the field.

Oh and: http://www.noodletools.com/tools.html
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2006-05-29, 4:07 PM #21
Most of the time, you want peer reviewed sources as the foundation of whatever you're writing. Using something like Wiki in addition to those sources and it's fine.
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2006-05-29, 4:10 PM #22
Alright thanks for the help guys. I used bits and pieces of everyone's advice :)
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