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12 yr old dies after Rollercoaster ride...
2006-06-30, 2:23 PM #1
The Rock & Roller Coaster here at Disney World. I've been on it twice, and its that initial shock I tell ya, when it shoots u off. something like 5g's they said. I dunno for sure so dont quote me on that, and I who hate roller coasters. anyway poor kid died. his dad was a Green Baret and tried to save him but no use...

http://www.euro2day.gr/articlesfna/16880036/
2006-06-30, 2:26 PM #2
Oh man I love that roller coaster. The initial acceleration is actually only about 1G though.

Anyways it quite clearly says "THOSE WITH HEART PROBLEMS SHOULD NOT RIDE".
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2006-06-30, 2:26 PM #3
I always tell my friends and family rollercoasters are unsafe. Just one more bit of ammunition.
2006-06-30, 2:29 PM #4
It's a single incident out of how many people who ride the roller coaster? You're ammo supply is greatly out weighed by the number of people who ride roller coasters and don't die.
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2006-06-30, 2:31 PM #5
I'm pretty sure the chances of you dying is greater riding in a car on the road than going on a rollar coaster.
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2006-06-30, 2:36 PM #6
Originally posted by Echoman:
I'm pretty sure the chances of you dying is greater riding in a car on the road than going on a rollar coaster.

True.
I just don't like putting my safety into the hands of another, at least when I'm driving if something happens its most likely because I did something wrong or failed to respond fast enough.
2006-06-30, 2:41 PM #7
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2006-06-30, 2:41 PM #8
So if he died because of the initial shock, did he ride the whole ride before they noticed?

...That's certainly a way to propel yourself into the afterlife.
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2006-06-30, 2:53 PM #9
Originally posted by DracoZandros:
True.
I just don't like putting my safety into the hands of another, at least when I'm driving if something happens its most likely because I did something wrong or failed to respond fast enough.

So... you never ride as a passenger? You never travel by plane? Riding a rollercoaster is not putting your life into hands of others, the chance of injury is obscenely small. Most people that die on coasters die because of their own damn fault.
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2006-06-30, 3:23 PM #10
Originally posted by kyle90:
Anyways it quite clearly says "THOSE WITH HEART PROBLEMS SHOULD NOT RIDE".


Quote:
Russell told authorities his son had no previous health problems, according to the Orange County Sheriff''s Office.


Yeah, so i'm sure it was his fault.
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2006-06-30, 3:28 PM #11
I haven't been on a rollercoaster since I was 7. And I ate before that happened, big fat miskate.
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2006-06-30, 4:01 PM #12
I've ridden that roller coaster before....there is no way in hell it is 5 Gs.
2006-06-30, 4:04 PM #13
Originally posted by Dark__Knight:
Yeah, so i'm sure it was his fault.


Good job misinterpreting my post. Obviously it wasn't his "fault". I was just stating that to pre-empt the idiots who would come in with the "OMG ROLLARCOSTARS ARE UNSAFE" crap.
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2006-06-30, 5:07 PM #14
Originally posted by kyle90:
Oh man I love that roller coaster. The initial acceleration is actually only about 1G though.

Anyways it quite clearly says "THOSE WITH HEART PROBLEMS SHOULD NOT RIDE".



http://www.rocknrollercoaster.com/secrets.html

Acceleration
5 G's at launch, 4 G turns

that fact is at the very bottom

....................

plus the little boy didnt know he had heart problems, neither did his dad
2006-06-30, 5:16 PM #15
EDIT: Wikipedia also confirms "4 or 5 Gs". I retract my earlier statement.
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2006-06-30, 5:16 PM #16
Originally posted by DracoZandros:
True.
I just don't like putting my safety into the hands of another, at least when I'm driving if something happens its most likely because I did something wrong or failed to respond fast enough.


Thank you!!! Exactly. You know its either someone else driving or a mistake I made, but in a roller coaster the shock and all that. I just wouldnt want to go that way. But see, you and I think the same.

One time my friends tried to get me on rollercoassters at Universal they both broke down that same day.

The Hulk locked down as it shot the people out and they were dangling up in the air (not upside down or anything but in the initial launch ramp) until they broke them back in, they were there for a couple of minutes

and then Fire and Ice (Dualing Dragons) everyone wanted me to go on it, and I refused, so they went on Ice, we went back and they went to get on Fire, and when they were on Fire, ICE broke down!

I was like, see right there! that proves my point about rollercoasters.

I dont know, just something doesnt feel right to me about plummiting in a cart towards the ground and purposely getting on it, and not having control. In a car, at least I have some control...yes im a chicken when it comes to rollercoasters.

I've been on Rock & Rollercoaster twice...hated it both times, was on Tower of Terror...freaky was on it once in 96 never got on it again, although I considered it when I was with a guy I liked.

Screamed like a little girl, on the dinosaur kiddy rollercoaster at Disney Animal Kingdom, Thunder Mountain, I actually could handle the Flying Unicorn (haha) and I was on The Mummy and I hated the last drop

So yea I've been on some rollercoasters but I still dont like them, but hey that's just me /rant
2006-06-30, 5:17 PM #17
More G's than a space shuttle launch? I don't think so. Mission Space is about 2.5 Gs and I can tell you from eexperience it is by FAR more forceful than Rock N roller coaster.
2006-06-30, 5:17 PM #18
Originally posted by Phantom-Seraph:
I haven't been on a rollercoaster since I was 7. And I ate before that happened, big fat miskate.



haha, yeah the very first time I went on Rock & Rollercoaster, I had just eaten a huge cookie, and I got off and felt nauseous(sp?) anywho yeah, but I didnt hurl, damn near close though lol...tmi hehe
2006-06-30, 5:33 PM #19
It says 5 gs, but I assume you don't experience it for very long. 2 gs feels kind of wierd/cool, 3/3.5 was pushing it for me - 5 must be tough.
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2006-06-30, 5:36 PM #20
I once lost my shoes on the Top Gun at Canada's Wonderland. You have your feet dangling in the air in that roller coaster, and when I always wore my shoes slacked up back then. They were airborne by the first loop, and they went right over and beyond to Wonderland boundary fences. Never saw them again. Have to buy really ugly slipper things at the souvenir shop >.<

Sad for that kid. :()
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2006-06-30, 5:57 PM #21
Originally posted by BoricuaDelight:
haha, yeah the very first time I went on Rock & Rollercoaster, I had just eaten a huge cookie, and I got off and felt nauseous(sp?) anywho yeah, but I didnt hurl, damn near close though lol...tmi hehe


I didn't throw up, as memory serves. But I was really full so my stomach knotted up and the Roller Coaster I rode on was really old and rickety. I recall laying on my back for about an hour afterward, trying to keep all of my guts in. I've never been on one since. . .though I haven't had the chance since then either.
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2006-06-30, 6:00 PM #22
[QUOTE=IRG SithLord]More G's than a space shuttle launch? I don't think so. Mission Space is about 2.5 Gs and I can tell you from eexperience it is by FAR more forceful than Rock N roller coaster.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I was on Mission Space a couple of times before they had to turn down the force cuz people kept getting hurt, that one doesnt bother me as much, the the plummiting in the rollercoasters and the initial shoot off in the Rock and Rollercoaster. But I still love Aerosmith lol
2006-06-30, 6:07 PM #23
I hate all these fancy new rollercoasters. Give me old school any day of the week.
2006-06-30, 6:16 PM #24
Originally posted by kyle90:
Good job misinterpreting my post. Obviously it wasn't his "fault". I was just stating that to pre-empt the idiots who would come in with the "OMG ROLLARCOSTARS ARE UNSAFE" crap.


Sorry kyle, I was just a little pissed off, and I just misread your post. I just didn't like the thought of people thinking that this was in any way the kid or his dad's fault. I mean, imagine how horrible that father must feel now :( Sorry, again.
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2006-06-30, 6:27 PM #25
Originally posted by BoricuaDelight:
Yeah I was on Mission Space a couple of times before they had to turn down the force cuz people kept getting hurt, that one doesnt bother me as much, the the plummiting in the rollercoasters and the initial shoot off in the Rock and Rollercoaster. But I still love Aerosmith lol


I don't think it was too much force. Some people are just too ignorant to listen to warnings.
2006-06-30, 6:28 PM #26
Originally posted by DracoZandros:
True.
I just don't like putting my safety into the hands of another, at least when I'm driving if something happens its most likely because I did something wrong or failed to respond fast enough.



If you believe that, you'r in for a surprise. You can be the best driver in the world and still get into a really bad accident.
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2006-06-30, 7:58 PM #27
Originally posted by BoricuaDelight:
... ICE broke down!

I was like, see right there! that proves my point about rollercoasters.

That doesn't prove **** about the safety of coaster. The only thing it proves is that it's a large mechanical device that isn't perfect. Does a car break down every now and then? Yes. Coasters are some of the simplest rides in practice. It's all gravity and momentum after it leaves the bay.
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2006-06-30, 7:58 PM #28
When I went to universal.

I rode Dueling Dragons 11 times
Spiderman once
Hulk once (huge huge line at night)
and a bunch of other stuff

Nothing broke down that day though. So my point is that sometimes (somedays) stuff breaks. I've never had a roller coaster shut down while I was riding it.
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2006-06-30, 7:59 PM #29
(PSST! His dad is an Iraqi vet!)
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2006-06-30, 8:10 PM #30
The site says the kid may have had some heart defects. Not his fault, but not really the rollercoaster's either. I mean, they don't require extensive tests before riding, and you shouldn't need to do any yourself. It's an unfortunate accident, but it happens.

As for rollercoasters in general, I love them. I used to live in Ventura, CA, and my father and I would visit Magic Mountain at least once a year. Last time I went was through my middle school when Riddler's Revenge was brand new. Holy crap was that one fun. Though I really want to try out X. :v: A year earlier, on a similar trip with the middle school, two friends and I ended up riding Psychlone at least a dozen times because there was no line for it. Colossus was still better in my opinion. More recently, I've been to Six Flags St. Louis. It's a poor park as far as Six Flags parks go, but the coasters are ok. Batman is the same as in Magic Mountain, and Ninja here is similar to Viper, though smaller.

A favorite is Mr. Freeze, seen here. One of my friends used to work at the park in high school, and he said the most fun days were the ones where the coaster didn't make it back around that top turn. See, what happens is at the end tower there are electromagnets which lift up the train by pulling and pushing on the metal blades on the sides of the cars. The operator of the ride controls the magnets on the tower. Some days, he lets go of the button too early, and the train doesn't go high enough to build up enough momentum to make the turn. They have extract everybody at the bottom, then send a slow-moving electric train to push the riding train back to the station. All in all, about a 3 hour ordeal.

[edit]It should also be mentioned, that when you are 12 or 13 and think it's really funny to mess with the height of the restraints on Riddler's Revenge, and it happens to lock at the point when you're just shy of standing on your tip-toes, it makes for a rather uncomfortable ride. :ninja:
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2006-06-30, 8:15 PM #31
X is freaking awesome.
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2006-06-30, 8:21 PM #32
Originally posted by Dark__Knight:
Sorry kyle, I was just a little pissed off, and I just misread your post. I just didn't like the thought of people thinking that this was in any way the kid or his dad's fault. I mean, imagine how horrible that father must feel now :( Sorry, again.


Hey, don't worry about it. I just thought you were trying to be a jerk, which I now see was not the case.

And yeah... that would suck. Take your kid on a rollercoaster and it kills him. Christ, this world isn't fair.
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2006-06-30, 8:29 PM #33
It's even WORSE when you're an Iraqi Vet !
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2006-06-30, 8:33 PM #34
Roller coasters should be more deadly.
2006-06-30, 8:38 PM #35
Can we please rename the thread "12 yr old dies after Lolarcoaster ride.."

The current one sounds so depressing.
2006-06-30, 8:47 PM #36
Originally posted by Rob:
Roller coasters should be more deadly.


Agreed. No upstops for you!
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2006-06-30, 9:04 PM #37
Hey guys, wouldn't it be even more of a shock if this horrible tragedy happened to the son of an Iraqi Vet? I mean, I know it's already sad, but that'd make it even MORE sad. They already have a hard and honorable life.

Hey, you guys think he might be an iraqi vet?
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2006-06-30, 9:05 PM #38
You just want attention because you can't ride any of the rides.
2006-06-30, 9:06 PM #39
Originally posted by Rob:
You just want attention because you can't ride any of the rides.


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2006-06-30, 9:07 PM #40
I can ride the rides at the fairs! You know what my favorite one is?

The one where the guy draws your picture while everyone else goes on the rollercoaster! That one is.. fun.

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