I just finished watching the pilot for Firefly again.

All this time and you guys never forced me to watch it?

HATE

It's not our fault you were slow.

And if you think the pilot's great, just wait until you see the other episodes.

I saw that series last time in 2004, it should get übercheap so I could get it.

Well...uh...

Watch Firefly?

And Farscape...and Scrubs...and 24...and The Office, and My Name is Earl, and...uh... Boy Meets World.

All the Firefly/Serentiy whoring when the movie came out should have been a clue to you.

I was just thinking about Firefly today for the first time in a few months...

*cough*

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You should've persuaded her to take off AT LEAST her outer sweater thingy, man.

Serenity is the best sci-fi movie ever.

Hmm. To be honest, I thought the movie to be rather mediocre. The series, however, is rad.

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Serenity is the best sci-fi movie ever.[/QUOTE]
If you disregard Johnny Mnemonic, then yeah.

I liked 'Farscape Peacekeeper Wars' more than Serenity (which was still neat)... yet I should see the mini-series rather than the movie edit :\

I still need to watch The Peacekeeper Wars...

Thanks for reminding me.

It was pretty good, but Serenity was awesomer.

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]Serenity is the best sci-fi movie ever.[/QUOTE]

You need to see more sci-fi.

The series was top notch though.

To be honest I thought Firefly was good and all, but I still much prefer Farscape. Something about the universe just seems more...complete. Plus the concept is nifty.

But Serenity was excellent.

Firefly was alright. The thing that put me off it was the whole cowboys thing. Sure the whole cowboy attitude fitted nicely but the costumes, language and architecture? No, it was way to cheesy. That and the fact that almost all of the worlds they visited were technologically behind everything else. They diddnt have cars or anything. The cowboy thing was completley overdone imho. I enjoyed the episodes which diddnt have such a cowboy theme (mostly the later ones in the series like the one where they broke into the hospital).

I think the show is terribly overrated. It's mediocre at best.

As for Sci Fi series. TNG still gets my vote :p

The backwater theme had a lot to do with the huge war that happened before the show started.

WELL I HATE YOU TOO.

I really liked the series and the movie. I thought the cowboy theme was cool, it made it different and interesting. I think they went to the crappiest non-technological planets because they were wanted everywhere else. They were on the outer rim of civilization.

I also liked how there were no weird aliens.

TNG? Speaking of cheesy...

D:

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]TNG? Speaking of cheesy...[/QUOTE]TNG is unique because it has some kind of strong moral, ethical, or philosophical issue every episode.

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]TNG? Speaking of cheesy...[/QUOTE]
Them's fightin' words!

Well ok some of it is cheesy but I still grew up with Picard & co.!

Spread the word of the Ori-err Firelfy.

Oh, I've seen the other episodes.

All at least four or five times. In the last two weeks.



And as for Western Cheese, I much prefer Western Cheese to Star Trek cheese. The costumes didn't seem too western cheesy to me. But then again I'm from Utah. More than 3/4s of the people in the show are sci fi or eastern clad. And I must be missing the western architecture somwhere. The language, however, is kind of how I grew up talking, so STFU. Well, no chinese, Yiddish was more likely to sneak into my speech.

DJ Yoshi, I venture that it feels incomplete because it didn't even really finish a season. Course, who knows, maybe you would have felt that way after a long time.

It's obsession, methinks.

No it's not. Ever seen Farscape? They deal with strong moral, ethical blah blah blah issues all the time. There's a lot of series that do that. TNG is unique because it had a good cast of actors, that's it. The story was fairly cheesy, the plot was fairly cheesy, hell just about everything about it screamed cheese when I saw it.

Though, don't get me wrong, Farscape is ridiculously cheesy at times, it's also got a lot more character development and support in it I believe, and the relationships between the characters is just amazing. The writers really knew what they were doing there.

For sure. TNG didn't have any kind of plot outslde of the individual episode, and the closest thing the character development that existed was with Data's quest to become more human.

It makes sense for the outer planets to be backwards like that. It's only been 500 years since they left earth; every planet isn't going to be fully developed. They even mention in one episode that the Alliance will dump settlers on a planet with nothing but the bare essentials, so you're not going to be seeing sky scrapers and flying machines any time soon.

Compare that to Tatooine, which is an incredibly backwards planet, even though space travel has been around in that galaxy for thousands and thousands of years. Which series is more realistic?

I think Firefly was great because of the backwaterness. It shows reality. (well, the future probably wont be a western... but still) not every place is going to be a utopia.

Though I am curious as to what Book really was. He was most likely a former alliance something-or-other. but what. was he an assasin? a high ranking military man? I wish we knew.

I think he was the PRESIDENT OF THE GALAXY.

Or more likely I think he was an operative like the guy in Serenity.

Ya, sorry that's what I meant by assasin. I just couldn't remember what it was really called.

I agree on him being an Operative

[QUOTE=Vincent Valentine]It makes sense for the outer planets to be backwards like that. It's only been 500 years since they left earth; every planet isn't going to be fully developed. They even mention in one episode that the Alliance will dump settlers on a planet with nothing but the bare essentials, so you're not going to be seeing sky scrapers and flying machines any time soon.

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The architecture and clothing stlyes still dont make sense though! Western style language even less.

They also went on random rants in Chinese. Besides, there are people who talk like that in parts of the US.

Maybe Season 2 ? They want us to pay for it. I would.

Farscape is fantastic, I am just now going through the seasons (in the middle of season 3). I personally find aliens with prosthetics, etc. to be very cheesy, but Farscape really has good story lines and great characters. I, however, like Firefly better because of it's more realistic angle, and just it's general feel. Trying to make money, get food, survive, without a particular goal.

What architecture are you talking about? The clothing makes more sense than any fuddy Sci Fi clothes I've seen. Mostly since it's not Sci Fi or western. It's a mish mash of everything. Which IIRC is what the world is.

And "Western" language, as you like to call it, makes even more sense. Ever hanged (hahah see I ain't book larned duhr) out with people who have a bit more physicality in their lives than you? Go to any far in the US, most military units, and 90% of small town America and you can hear ain't and reckon and people droppin' gs (haha did it) off the end of their words. In fact, using the term "western style language" makes you look like a spoiled dandy! Not really, that was to highlight the irony in my post. When someone can use spoiled dandy in a sci fi show and have it more or less fit, you know they've got something going.

To summarize my last paragraph, I think you're wrong.

EDIT:IMO, book probably had something more to do with the insidious Blue Sun than the Alliance, even though they kind of seem the same.

Also, I just watched the Farscape episode "Scrach N' Sniff" and it might have been the best so far. Freaking brilliant.