The picture above proves my point. If there's not a penis down there, there should be. I never said that she was ugly (maybe you're confused with the person that said that Dakota Fanning was ugly?). I said that she looks like a man. Her body and facial features are closer to that of a man than that of a woman. And no, I don't have extremely high expectations of what a woman should look like. My girlfriend of 6 years is slightly overweight by most standards, but I think she's beautiful, and she certainly doesn't look like a man. My point was never to make this an anti-Keira Knightly thread, it's simply to show that Massassians are the last people in the world that should be talking about who is ugly and who isn't. Even Keira Knightly has made statements regarding how she dislikes her figure.