SPOILER ALERT there may be spoilers in this thread.

Well, I rented the remade mini-series from Netflix and I really enjoyed it. I added the season 1 disks to my queue. But, last night, or recently, anyway, I was flipping channels and saw the show on sci-fi channel. I was extremely disturbed when it was in the middle of a pretty graphic rape scene. I turned it off, since I really hate watching that kind of thing.

Today, I searched the internet for more information on whether this is a persistent theme throughout the show, and it seems like it is. There are talks of gang-rape scenes and other types of things. There are also interviews with the makers of the show where he promises something like, "if you were disturbed by that, stop watching, because you ain't seen nothing yet."

Personally, these types of graphic rape scenes bother me and I have a real problem watching shows, movies, or even reading books with them in there. On one hand, I'm glad I saw it before I wasted any more time watching the show, but on the other hand, I am disappointed because the series had a promising beginning.

I don't see why sci-fi authors have to include things like prison and gang-rape scenes (or even gang-rape references) in their junk.

Argh.

I have never seen it, but I heard a lot of people saying its good, maybe they like a bit of pretty mouth.

I know hat scene you're talking about. There some pretty important context that you missed not having seen the rest of the episode or the show, for that matter. It's a brutal scene, but it's resolved quite well. Watch the episodes in order and ou won't be disappointed.

The characters attempting the rape aren't main characters and are dealt with in quite a deserving fashion

I'm a fan of the old series, so I'm definitely going to check it out.

The one I saw was a scene where an older dude was raping a female inmate (I think she's a major character in the show) - two guards caught him and killed him, and then try were trying to execute the guards for murder.

The one I read about (gang-rape) was some dudes raping a female cylon (which I think is a robot).

In general, killing a rapist doesn't really help his victims get over it

I remember that scene as well. I assure you, the rest of the series is nothing like that. Nothing at all. Whoever wrote that clearly didn't watch the rest of the show..

It's very good, different than the original for sure, but very good. It poses many philisophical, religious, and political questions that are very interesting.

And there's some good ol' fasioned Cylon butt kicking as well.

No, it doesn't, but that's one of the great things about the show. They take on some pretty serious issues like what you saw. The way different characters handle these very intense situations is such an integral part of the show.

I like to watch sci-fi to be entertained. Watching a woman screaming and crying during and after being raped isn't entertaining for me. If I wanted to see serious issues, I'd watch the news

Uhh...there's only two scenes that are harsh like that. One of them (Boomer) doesn't even get raped.

My suggestion is to not base your opinion of the show on scenes like that, disturbing how may they be. This is a series that has all the characters go through rough times.

Theatre isn't all about giving the audience what they want to see all the time. Drama and tragedy are there to make sure we don't get bored from the happy scenes. There must be drastic scenes. Without it the show will essentially be carebares...or just another space show.

Just my two cents.

I think you completely miss the point of what sci-fi is about then, the really good sci-fi almost always discusses difficult and controversial issues. Sci-fi isn't just the pop sci-fi like Star Trek, Star Wars and Star Gate (though they are all very enjoyable); it's all the Isaac Asimovs, Ian M. Banks' and Phillip K Dicks.

Sci-fi is just fiction based on a scienfitic premise, space travel being the usual choice. Sci-fi can also be set in the past, a novel about our world if dinosaurs had evolved to an intelligent level would be Sci-fi. It's not just lasers and black holes.

And space boobs

The rape scene has several purposes.

• It brings the Chief Tyrol and Helo together, who had been previously separated on the issue of Sharon
• This heightens the tension between Adama and Cain, starting the first of many stand-offs between the Galactica and the Pegasus as Adama attempts to board the ship and rescue Tyrol and Helo, who had been arrested, tried, and convicted for murder
• It helped Tyrol get over his differences with this copy of Sharon and solidify his relationship with her, possibly creating tension between Sharon, Tyrol, and Helo

The other (implied) rape scene is to simply there to further demonize the crew of the Pegasus and make the audience despise them that much more so that, when Cain dies , no member of the audience would really have any objections about it.

The writers of the TV series are fantastic, and they use these scenes, not to shock you, but to sway audience opinion and bring characters and story lines together. While I would definitely say that the attempted rape of Sharon is probably my least-favorite scene of the entire series, it definitely serves an excellent part in the story's progression.

Pegasusss Suxx

I REALLY ReALLY Didn't like that scene of that episode, but the finale of Pegasus part 1 made me feel like I was watching Lord of the Rings. The standoff between Adama and The other captain seemed rather epic.
I haven't seen any other scenes like it?

(not exact quotes)
"Captain, why are you launching vipers?"
"Please arrange the return of my men"
"Are you threatening to attack my ship?"
"Take it as you'd like, but I'm getting my men back"
*que violin music
*que military drum music

And Brian... that scene isn't in the first season, it's only in the second. Also, the rest of the episodes in season 2 totally make up for it anyway (especially the finale)

I have to say... if you enjoyed the mini-series and you liked it so much to want to order the first season, go for it, watch it and give it a shot, if after that particular episode it throws you off of the entire series, fine, but don't condem an entire series just because of one or more scenes that deal with a graphic nature.

I have not seen the show myself, I don't have Sc-fi and I don't want to download it, so i have to either wait until SPACE starts re-runs again or rent the DVD's, but my friend and a co-worker both say it's an overall awesome show.

Yeah, dude, do NOT write off Galactica just because of that one scene. The show kicks SERIOUS ***. One could also point out that it's critically acclaimed for a reason, you know?

I'm hyped for Season 3, and utterly annoyed that I have to WAIT until October for it. It's practically the only show I've ever watched where I've never felt like there was a dull episode. Some are slower than others, but it's constantly moving forwards, there's never really a "bad" episode.

I like this new BSG series.

I'd like it more if Finnish TV didn't have a 2 year delay, though.

You really shouldn't be completely turned off by that one scene, you're missing one hell of a show. Personally, I think they handled it well. That scene the events surrounding it could have been done much worse. Also, my memory has never been great, but I thats the only rape or even rape-esqe scene in the show so far.

Anyway, I can't freaking wait for the next season, although what they do on the first episode can really set the season down a bad road, or a really good one.

That's it in a nut shell.

So does it not actually happen?

The implied rape scene does, yes, but it's only mentioned in passing - i.e., "she was abused by the crew", etc. The rape of Sharon does not happen, though.

Yeah, Wolfy's right.

Also, am I the only person not distrubed by scenes like that? I understand fully how horrible rape is, but watching a short, implied "cut back" scene does not bother me at all. Just curious...

I was moved

No. It was pretty obvious that Tyrol and Helo would get there just in the nick of time to save the day (and thus stop any actual rape). And like everyone's saying, the torture of Number Six was only referenced in dialogue.



I like the new BSG, but I think that the creators love their show just a little too much. I couldn't sit through the commentary on my Miniseries DVD...it was all "hey, look what we did! We're special!"

But yeah, on the whole it's a pretty great show, though it's a bit heavy-handed at times. I've only seen the miniseries and about half of season two. I've got to get the DVDs to catch up.

What I've found interesting and enjoyed thus far is how they don't seem to be terribly afraid to kill off characters you frequently see. The Priest lady and Billy being two rather nice examples of that. You seem them so often, get used them being around, and then they're suddenly killed off. Adds more of a sense of realism I guess.... Like it's showing that someone could go at any time. None of them are these immortal untouchable characters.

meh. Maybe I'm just talking out my ***. It's late, and I've had a really long day.

Did I ever mention that Katee Sachoff (Kara Thrace/Starbuck) is one hot face melter?

I love this show.

I get goosebumps just thinking about seeing it... but it's not on TV (not even reruns) till frickin october.

This thread really should have come with a spoiler warning in the first post. I haven't seen any of season two yet since I've been waiting for it to be released in its entirety on DVD. I didn't read much of this thread to avoid spoilers and I don't know if the rape scene on the Pegasus is from season two or not but I'm looking forward to seeing what all the comotion is about.

First post didn't have any spoilers other than that there is a rape scene in the show somewhere (is that a spoiler?). I guess I should be able to predict the future.

Given that the season is about a year old, expecting people to post spoiler alerts is kind of silly. It's on the same vein as not dicussing the plot of a movie recently released on DVD.

I agree but I've been gone for a year so I haven't seen it yet. No big deal. Goes along with a line of conversation I've had with people lately about how our lives over here, personal lives anyway, seem to be on pause and we kind of expect to just go home and pick up where we left off but back home an entire year has passed and many things are different.

Yes, you should. I guess you're right, it was just the more that I started to read I realized I was getting much more information than I wanted to know. Certainly not your fault though. I just didn't realize until further into the thread so I figured a warning at the begining would have been appropriate but you're right that you didn't have any spoilers. And, like I said, it didn't seem to me like such an old show because of my screwed up perception of time.

I can edit it and put a notice.

"Yes, you should." was in reference to being able to predict the future, if you thought I meant otherwise.

i'm the same. as long as i know it's not real, i'm not effected by it.

this show it ****ing awesome! i can not wait for season 3!