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John Karr this JonBonet that...
2006-08-24, 6:59 PM #1
Anyone else think the guy is getting way too much coverage? Seems the Israel-Lebanon War is suddenly thrown out of the picture with the introduction of John Karr. Oh and is it just me or does he resemble the T-1000 from Terminator 2? He has that same cold emotionless stare and that large forehead.

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2006-08-24, 7:04 PM #2
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2006-08-24, 7:09 PM #3
^win^
2006-08-24, 8:45 PM #4
Why the hell was this case a big deal to begin with all those years ago? I didn't care then and I sure as hell don't care now.
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2006-08-24, 8:58 PM #5
Tons of people are killed every day, and the media latches on this one. It's been years! Who the **** cares anymore?

Who the **** cared to begin with?
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2006-08-24, 9:07 PM #6
Originally posted by Darkjedibob:
Tons of people are killed every day, and the media latches on this one. It's been years! Who the **** cares anymore?

Who the **** cared to begin with?


Victim's family/freinds? Ever think about them? Or just about yourself?

EDIT: I agree news all seem to jump on particular cases, but I bet if they could, they would jump on all of them.
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2006-08-24, 9:19 PM #7
Originally posted by SF_GoldG_01:
Victim's family/freinds? Ever think about them? Or just about yourself?

Who cares about them? They aren't connected to me, so I don't care.

Almost any one of us could die tomorrow, and the world would not budge. Our families and friends would grieve, then move on. Almost all of us are expendible.
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2006-08-24, 9:26 PM #8
Originally posted by Emon:
Who cares about them? They aren't connected to me, so I don't care.

Almost any one of us could die tomorrow, and the world would not budge. Our families and friends would grieve, then move on. Almost all of us are expendible.



So I guess you wouldn't care if I sexually abused and murdered your children?

Too many people thinking about themselves and not about others. The fundamental flaw of humanity.
2006-08-24, 9:30 PM #9
Ah you need to read more carefully, he WOULD care because his children are connected to him. :psyduck:

But seriously, I'm sure the media is giving this particular murder special attention... for reasons they've probably forgotten.

2006-08-24, 9:38 PM #10
I apologize, I was trying to convey more along the lines of:

Someone rapes and murders your children. Would you not want other people to care? Hell if noone cared about other people, why should the police solve murders? Why should they waste their time trying to catch the murderer? Also would you not want to raise awareness of child safety in the community?

Sure there is a bit of media overreaction but this is attributed to the fact that Karr may not be the killer. There is alot of consensus that one of the parents did it.
2006-08-24, 9:45 PM #11
Originally posted by CavEmaN:
I apologize, I was trying to convey more along the lines of:

Someone rapes and murders your children. Would you not want other people to care? Hell if noone cared about other people, why should the police solve murders? Why should they waste their time trying to catch the murderer? Also would you not want to raise awareness of child safety in the community?

Sure there is a bit of media overreaction but this is attributed to the fact that Karr may not be the killer. There is alot of consensus that one of the parents did it.



The only problem I find in your post is that you actually consider the time police spend catching and solve crimes as a "waste". I'd rephrase if I were you.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-08-24, 10:02 PM #12
Originally posted by CavEmaN:
So I guess you wouldn't care if I sexually abused and murdered your children?

...I never said nor implied anything of the sort. I was pointing out that, no matter what happens to individuals, the world moves on.

It's not that I don't care about other people, it's that I don't care about other people that I don't know.
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2006-08-24, 10:06 PM #13
Originally posted by CavEmaN:
Someone rapes and murders your children. Would you not want other people to care?

I would want them to understand, but no, I would not want or expect other people who aren't connected to me to care.

Originally posted by CavEmaN:
Hell if noone cared about other people, why should the police solve murders?

Because they can move on to harm others, which damages more than an individual.

Originally posted by CavEmaN:
Also would you not want to raise awareness of child safety in the community?

You mean to tell me that people aren't aware that children shouldn't be left alone, need to be watched for, cared for, etc? That we actually need to raise awareness about what our inherent parental instincts already handle?

Originally posted by CavEmaN:
Sure there is a bit of media overreaction but this is attributed to the fact that Karr may not be the killer. There is alot of consensus that one of the parents did it.

I didn't even read the article. I was just replying to Gold's post.
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2006-08-24, 10:06 PM #14
Also, that guy = T1000.
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2006-08-24, 10:07 PM #15
T-1000 says "Never leave any child unattended!"
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2006-08-24, 10:08 PM #16
Originally posted by CavEmaN:
I apologize, I was trying to convey more along the lines of:

Someone rapes and murders your children. Would you not want other people to care? Hell if noone cared about other people, why should the police solve murders? Why should they waste their time trying to catch the murderer?


Why should we waste our time caring about strangers?

If we did, we'd have to mourn everyone who died to avoid hypocrisy.
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2006-08-24, 10:10 PM #17
It reminds me how we dug up some 1960s murder case in 2004.

There should be more news and footage of Israeli army blowing UP stuff, though. Or they should start blowing UP more stuff and film it.
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2006-08-24, 10:14 PM #18
Blowing stuff up, my dear Finnish friend.
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2006-08-24, 10:15 PM #19
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
Or they should start blowing more stuff and film it.

I sell those types of movies. >.>
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2006-08-24, 10:18 PM #20
You just earned this thread a five-star rating, FGR. Congradulations.
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2006-08-24, 10:18 PM #21
Edit Edit Edit Edit

Argh

:(
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2006-08-24, 10:26 PM #22
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
:(


/me manlurvs

<3
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2006-08-24, 10:46 PM #23
Some clarity with the miscommunication,

Originally posted by Emon:
Because they can move on to harm others, which damages more than an individual.


This is assuming they care about the safety of others or community interest.

Originally posted by Emon:
You mean to tell me that people aren't aware that children shouldn't be left alone, need to be watched for, cared for, etc? That we actually need to raise awareness about what our inherent parental instincts already handle?


This is assuming that everyone in the world is smart and intelligent. From experience we know this is not the case.


Yeah I think my use of care was a bit too vague. I'm not saying that we should all buy flowers and dig holes in the ground. My point is that people need to show some compassion and understanding. Too many apathetic views posted.
2006-08-24, 11:07 PM #24
I think that this particular murder generated so much press attention mainly because of the child model factor. The wealth of the parents and the convoluted story of the discovery of the body (found within the house many hours after her mother reported her missing and after the initial police search) helped to fuel the fires, but it was the idea of the parents parading her around that got people fascinated. I've seen the videos, little girls dressed up in fancy adult-like clothes strutting around in competition. It's all very creepy. JonBenet won many such contests, and then she ends up dead in her own house while her parents were sleeping, apparently killed by someone with intimate knowledge of the house's layout.
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2006-08-24, 11:57 PM #25
Originally posted by Emon:
Also, that guy = T1000.

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2006-08-25, 2:03 AM #26
Originally posted by finity5:
^win^

Seconded. Motion passes :D
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2006-08-25, 2:49 AM #27
To me, the problem here is not whether or not anybody cares (which nobody does). It's that the media puts priority on this, with the world in it's more current state (which doesn't have to be bad). Sure it's sad, but there are more important things I'd rather worry about or lose sleep over.
2006-08-25, 4:05 AM #28
I care. I don't necessarily want to see it taking over the news on every station, but I certainly would like to have an avenue (most likely the web) to see the latest news on the subject.
2006-08-25, 7:01 AM #29
Originally posted by paladinZ:
To me, the problem here is not whether or not anybody cares (which nobody does). It's that the media puts priority on this, with the world in it's more current state (which doesn't have to be bad). Sure it's sad, but there are more important things I'd rather worry about or lose sleep over.

This is what I was trying to point out before Gold tried to paint me as a cold insensitive *******. Why the hell should we be forced to care with the media shoving it down our necks. So the kid was murdered et al, sure it's sad but it happens, deal with it, add her name to the list. The media only cares because "OMG it's a child! And she did beauty pagents!" so they think the rest of the world gives a flying **** and broadcasts about it every chance they can. This isn't the first insignificant story the media has latched onto, and it sure as hell won't be the last.
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2006-08-25, 7:37 AM #30
The media is only going to care if:
a) You're famous or get killed by someone famous
b) You die along with a large group of people
c) You're photogenic enough for people to go "How could someone kill such a pretty girl?"
d) It's part of their current fad for scapegoating something (eg the British press kept writing articles about dog attacks for a while before the Dangerous Dog Act was introduced.)
2006-08-25, 8:04 AM #31
Originally posted by Recusant:
The media is only going to care if:
a) You're famous or get killed by someone famous
b) You die along with a large group of people
c) You're photogenic enough for people to go "How could someone kill such a pretty girl?"
d) It's part of their current fad for scapegoating something (eg the British press kept writing articles about dog attacks for a while before the Dangerous Dog Act was introduced.)


True. The media tends to cater to the public's interest in the sensational, and the public likes to hear about the rich, famous, and powerful being suspected of wrongdoing. If they can be implicated in something creepy, such as child modelling, so much the better. I suppose one could find evidence of scapegoating here as well. The coverage attempts to force the case into a larger story, which may or may not be true, the idea being that whoever comitted the murder, it was motivated in part by pedophilia related to the world of child beauty pageants.
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2006-08-25, 11:58 AM #32
Who cares about this idiot. I hate bull**** like this that gets top news coverage. Who even gives a **** other than their family now anyways? It should stay between the family and the feds.

And dont you idiots say I dont care about others and assume that if this was my kid I wouldnt care. Of course I would, but even I in that case would agree its a waste of time/money/coverage to cover a story about me at that time or even a DECADE LATER. No one other than immediate friends or relatives should even care about this story. It doesnt involve them, theres no consipiracy or any other effect that can affect them in their lives, so why the hell should I care?
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2006-08-25, 1:15 PM #33
I like what Jon Stewart said about this:

"There's a break in the case of JonBenet Ramsey, which in cable new is known as oxygen."

Its a cold case, and this just seems like a publicity stunt for something people know the media will drool over.
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2006-08-26, 6:56 AM #34
four words, "missing white woman syndrome". these sorts of cases get heaps of meadia hype compaired to other people that go missing or are murdered.

scott peterson case anyone?
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