was meeting people like this...

I am glad that my former teacher was nothing like this animal, and my teacher would have kicked his *** with out a second's doubt. But I have met, and seen people like this, and they make me mad.

I don't see anything wrong?

I see a download flash 8 message...

I really wish Adobe would hurry up and make a version for Linux.

That guy needs a haircut.

I wanna see some huge dude walk in and slap that little ***** around. What a jack ***.

Hitting kids with rods until they bleed for no visual reason at all isn't wrong?

Not if you're learning it where they are. This has been a practice for hundreds of years. Western Society just doesn't do it because we can't, and it will ruin business.

Now we replace hitting with "doing 25 push ups" if we do something wrong.

25 Push ups isn't hard, doesn't make you bleed, and doesn't cause trauma. In fact if you can do 25 push ups at any given time, you are in a pretty good physical condition. Now, I doubt that every teacher would approve that method. The rod isn't going to make the student better, it will in fact, make him a monster. Its child abuse really.

1.) Picking someone up off the street and throwing them is hard.
2.) You will bleed in a street fight.
3.) You will most likely be "traumatized" the same as someone hitting you with a kendo stick.

If you sing up for a fighting class, you must be prepared mentally and physically. Learn to take beatings.

That's still pretty extreme.

A dojo isn't the street.

I have tooken beatings, that were dealt to me by fellow students, not by my instructor.

A dojo should prepare you for the street.

Fight the master to learn from him.

First I've ever heard about dojo's being required to prepare you for the "street" by beating the crap out of you. Sure as heck doesn't go on in Judo.
That guy just goes round treating his students with contempt. There's one guy he wants to show him a kick, so the student does one and then gets ready to repeat it and the sensei just front kicks him square in the gut. That's not teaching in any sense, it's just bullying.

Hehe...like I said, they won't beat you up here.

You fool of a took (tooken, lawl)

[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]You fool of a took (tooken, lawl)[/QUOTE]

lawl

Somewhere along the line, your vision of what martial arts is became totoaly perverted You can learn what it's like to be in a fight without having someone walk around and beat you with a stick.

You misunderstand me. I don't share his teaching methods.

I thought you quit going to kung fu because you had too many awesome parties with hot chicks who were all over you. Oh yeah, and your block's gang needed a leader so you could show off your kung fu skills to all the other kids in middle school. And that whole "making my own game engine" debacle.

No, it's not even in the nature of judo to hand out beatings like that. We have randori so the students throw each other around instead.:P
That sort of thuggish behaviour from a teacher only leads to loss of respect and ultimately the loss of his students as they go elsewhere. They're there to learn, in the process you might fight other students and take beatings that way, but not from some arsehole who's way more experienced than you beating on you without being able to, or allowed to, defend yourself. I might've understood it if he was showing them something, but he just cracks em over the head with a cane.

Anyone else smell... that... the stink of lies.

Here's my required "by the way, if anyone hasn't noticed, this guy is Japanese and this is therefore probably unrelated to "kung fu" (cma)" post.

The History of Martial Arts!

Eastern Martial Arts had schools all over the country. Teacher-apprentice disicipline was important to these schools, as the more disciplined your students are, the more they learn, the more your school is respected. The more your school is respected, the more students will join. To learn discipline, you must teach your students to be perfect in everything you do.

With teaching them perfection, they learn patience to deal with how you teach them.

So, Sifu's/Kyoshi's developed a "if you fail this move, you must pay for it" type of attitude. Some were light and only did a flick to the nose, while others started fighting novices one to one. The philosophy of fighting techniques for students to learn is purely based on the master. The master determinds how his school is ran.

This obviously evolved, and now here we are in the 21st century, where some of these philosophies obviously reached an extremist view.

[EDIT:] Minihistory: Hank Slomaski

Hank ran his school of 拳法 to where when you're done with flight training/making your rounds, you enter a tent to learn martial arts.

You come out bloody, no matter what.

You then go to get a drink with whoever tried to kill you 20 minutes ago.

Randomly beateing some one with a stick is a really stupid way ot teach you something. And if you think 25 push ups is a bad as getting beaten with stick, than you're retarded. Have you even done 25 push ups? It's really not that bad at all.

I thought I would never have to say this:

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I never said it was hard or harder to do than taking beatings. I said doing 25 pushups is a replacement.

Also, I think fighting with sticks is a great way to learn how to use a stick.

Especially when you don't have a stick, and fight a man with a stick. The students, cannot fight back, so they are learning to get beat up. Getting beat up is easy: just go into a bad neighborhood, walk up to a couple on a couch, and do something to them.

Nah, through their own special way, they're learning discipline.

Discipline is relative. Those who do not discipline themselves fail. Its bad enough to be laughed at when something goes wrong in a lesson. Humiliation is a pretty good punishment for failure.

This is all sorts of ironic that I can't even begin to describe.

Oh please try...

Too many people will not understand.

Sorry, but anyone who thinks the purpose of modern martial arts is to "train you for the street" is delusional. Martial arts are only actively used in competition, not gangfighting or whatever the hell you think they're for--'cause, y'know, there are these things called guns.

Yeah, everyone knows the only gangfights that happen are like the ones in Thriller.

Duh.

Perhaps you were being a tad ambiguous. Elaborate?

[QUOTE=Dj Yoshi]Yeah, everyone knows the only gangfights that happen are like the ones in Thriller.

Duh.[/QUOTE]Well well well, that might indeed be true! ! ! All I am certain of is they don't happen like the ones in Big Trouble in Little China.

Except for the part where there was a guy with a machine gun. And Lo Pan walloping ***.

They won't. The next version available on Linux will be 9.

Since when were all fights not in a competition gang fights?

Yeah, I saw this a while ago. That guy is pathetic. I mean, if this is the military, I'd understand. If not - then WTF, mate? All his students are going to end up pissed off troublemakers wanting to take out their frustration on someone else. Those who won't would've quit after the first lesson from that guy.

extremely effective. They'll learn.

Aye.

I'm not connecting:

(why I stopped King-Fu) and (some student abuse at some dojo)