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Bionic Arm
2006-09-14, 1:34 PM #1
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/13/AR2006091302271.html

Cool stuff, although it looks kind of creepy right now.
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2006-09-14, 1:39 PM #2
Looks cool, but it looks very delicate.
Nothing to see here, move along.
2006-09-14, 1:44 PM #3
I've actually been asked by the same institute if I would be interested in replacement limbs that would use the muscles I DO have in my body to control a partially bionic extension of my arm. The offer wasn't really all that serious, but more of a "suggestion" to me. They're not promising this technology any time soon, but letting me and a handful of others with dwarfism know that it's a possibility.

I'm very torn between the concepts. I'd love to have a fully functioning, nearly 2 foot long leg that had both output and input, as if it were my own functioning leg. Being able to feel with it would be amazing, and being able to walk, upright, like any human being would be... breathtaking. I'd give almost anything.

Except that I'd be partially artificial. I'd likely be the "first" in the experiment, and although it'd be free to me financially, I might end up with serious disfigurations, pain, or even cancer. They want to use us dwarves particularly because we often have strong, thick, large muscles in our limbs that could be drawn upon, instead of hijacked chest muscles. They'd be able to replace bone tissue, particularly joints, lengthening our limbs while retaining much of our feeling, possibly even creating mid-points that simply lengthen the arms, but keep even the skin and blood stuff all intact. The middle place may or may not receive touch sensation.

We've been given first dibs at this, and I know of at least 3 or 4 who are completelly and wholly interested. I don't know if I necissarily am. What would you do? Granted, you're not all confined to wheelchairs and have never walked... but still.

oops... thread hijack :-/
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2006-09-14, 1:45 PM #4
Interesting.

And this quote seems rather apt.

Quote:
KRYTEN: Right, concentrate, sir. I want you to think: "arm - pick up the ball".
LISTER: Okay.
KRYTEN: Now just think: "I will pick up the ball"
LISTER: I will pick up the ball.
KRYTEN: That's right, good, now, concentrate.
LISTER: *I will pick up the ball*.
KRYTEN: Okay, now *really* think: Hand --
LISTER: I will pick up the ball.
KRYTEN: -- pick up the ball. That's right, that's right.
LISTER: *Pick up the ball*.
KRYTEN: Pick up the ball. Hand, pick up the ball! That's right, now *keep* going, sir! Pick up the ball! Now, focus down onto that and keep the thought, sir! Hand, pick up the ball!

As KRYTEN offers verbal support in ever increasing volume, LISTER strains and grunts, effort twisting his feature as the hand lies motionless

KRYTEN: That's right, sir, now keep going, now *really think*, now. Hand, pick up
the ball! Now let's really get it going, sir! Pick up the ball! *Pick up the ball*! REALLY START TO GO NOW, SIR! HAND, PICK UP THE BALL, NOW LET'S KEEP MOVING! KEEP ON, SIR, YOU *CAN* DO IT! HAND, PICK UP THE BALL! YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT HAND, SIR! YOU'RE *GOING* TO MOVE IT! MOVE THE HAND, SIR!! HAND! PICK UP THE BALL!! PICK UP THE BALL!! YES SIR! YES! WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE, NOW! YES! IT'S DEFINITELY MOVING, SIR! YES!! Oh! Bravo, sir!!

KRYTEN tails off as LISTER successfuly moves the hand from its resting place to grab the ball which has sat motionless, three or four inches away from where he started

LISTER: Oh! The sweat's dripping off me!
KRYTEN: Oh, that was fantastic, sir! Absolutely marvellous, it worked like a dream!
LISTER: Is that it?
KRYTEN: Well, er, how do you mean, sir?
LISTER: Is that the best it works?? In other words, if I ever want to pick up a ball, am I going to have to take the morning off??
KRYTEN: It was a *tad* slow, I'm forced to admit.
LISTER: A tad? The only thing I've ever seen pick up slower is Rimmer in a disco.
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2006-09-14, 2:10 PM #5
Kirby:

Taking the risks associated with being one of the first in a field always requires a degree of altruism. Of course, unlike a purely altruistic act, you would also stand to benefit from this as an individual.

Technology is also pursued by that nasty "law of conservation of problems," where every advancement produces a new problem - all those you listed as the risks of being one of the firsts, as well as other unforeseen dangers. The new problems created by technology can many times be unpredictable.

Honestly, I don't know what I'd do. If I lost the use of my legs, I'd definitely consider something like this if it were offered to me.
2006-09-14, 3:20 PM #6
If I were to loose a limb, it would either be death or this.
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2006-09-14, 3:37 PM #7
Kung Fu is too hard without all your limbs eh?
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2006-09-14, 3:51 PM #8
Man, this is on par with that replacement eye thing. Soon we will have cyborgs. I wonder what sort of throughput a nerve gets. It'd be nice to directly talk with then via a really advanced DAC.
2006-09-14, 4:23 PM #9
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2006-09-14, 4:50 PM #10
Still awaiting the day when we can finally have cybernetic limbs similar to the one Luke received in Empire Strikes Back.

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