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Math?
2006-11-02, 10:22 AM #1
So im trying to figure out a problem that goes like this.


I have 12 characters or spaces and each character can be either a 0 or a 1

eg. 000000000000, 000000000001, 010101010101

How many total combinations can there be without repeating?

I think the answer is 144, because i think the formula is X^y. Where X is the number of spaces, and y is the number of possible values for a specific character or space. Does that make sense? Any help before sunday would be greatly appreciated. Tanks
2006-11-02, 10:23 AM #2
There will be 2^12 combinations, or 4096

EDIT: so yeah you were on the right track but you had the numbers switched around
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2006-11-02, 10:25 AM #3
Well it's more than that.

Your string is binary, convert it to decimal and 111111111111 is 4095 meaning there are 4096 possible

edit: Kyle90 is too fast :(
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2006-11-02, 10:42 AM #4
Wait. WITHOUT repetition? So you can't have all 1s or all 0s or any type of 1111... of binary string?

If so then your only combination is 1010101010101...

Right?
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2006-11-02, 10:47 AM #5
That has 13 digits, JG. (just being difficult :P)

If the repetition thing is handled that way, you could have 010101010101 or 101010101010.

But what's meant by no repeating? Girl-boy-girl-boy seating or that an entire sequence can't be repeated (rephrase as how many unique combinations are possible)? If the latter, then 4096 is still the standard.
2006-11-02, 10:53 AM #6
But wait... according to masc wouldn't there be like...

2 ways?
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2006-11-02, 1:37 PM #7
Yeah, its how many unique combinations.


Its actually for a football bet on 12 teams where the payoff is like 2100:1. I was seeing if I would bet on every combination and make money. I guess not, maybe Ill try with 10.
2006-11-02, 1:49 PM #8
Just so you know, if it was possible to make money from betting on everything everyone would do it.
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2006-11-02, 1:51 PM #9
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2006-11-02, 2:13 PM #10
Originally posted by Detty:
Just so you know, if it was possible to make money from betting on everything everyone would do it.

That works for the lotto, though ;)
A company a while back actually tried to get every single lotto combination. I remember that they didn't, I think that they ran out of funds, but they did hit the jackpot.
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2006-11-02, 2:33 PM #11
[QUOTE=Unknown User]Yeah, its how many unique combinations.[/QUOTE]

Then the rule is, for every binary number of N digits, there are 2^N possible unique values.

2006-11-02, 4:24 PM #12
Isn't the general case (number of possible values in each digit)^(number of digits), so Hex would be 16^n, Oct 8^n, Dec 10^n, and so on?
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2006-11-02, 5:13 PM #13
Ja
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2006-11-02, 6:28 PM #14
Originally posted by Ric_Olie:
Isn't the general case (number of possible values in each digit)^(number of digits), so Hex would be 16^n, Oct 8^n, Dec 10^n, and so on?

For cases of repetition, yes.

For cases w/o repetition, it's n! [forall][isin=n]Z[/isin][/forall]
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2006-11-02, 8:20 PM #15
i have no idea what that means.
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2006-11-02, 8:45 PM #16
It means that JG likes to use fancy math symbols.

The upside-down "A" means "all", the "E"-looking thingy means "belonging to the set", and the "Z" is "the integers".
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