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Vista vs OSX
2006-12-16, 8:17 PM #1
Hehe, this is a pretty clever comparison of Vista and OSX. The link is a mile long, so click here .

Geez. That was a ridiculous mess of a hyperlink.


[Link is fixed. I think.]
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2006-12-16, 8:21 PM #2
Wait uh.. that directs me to a movie about two folks' marriage.
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2006-12-16, 8:38 PM #3
To be fair, Mac didn't pioneer most of these things they were just the first to ship them in a commercial OS.

Apple stole the original windows thing from Xerox, Microsoft licensed it from Apple for Windows 1 (but not subsequent versions which is where the legal issues started). Firefox and Opera copied tabs from a browser that used the IE control before Microsoft copied Firefox and Opera. My point? Everyone steals each others ideas and it's the implementation of those ideas that's most important.

The video is amusing, but I personally think NYTimes should be a bit less tabloidy and actually get their facts straight.
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2006-12-16, 8:55 PM #4
So I guess Sean Kim is like Vista and Kathy is OSX?

Does that mean Vista and OSX are getting married?

I wonder who the best man will be.
2006-12-16, 9:20 PM #5
[QUOTE=Lord Kuat]So I guess Sean Kim is like Vista and Kathy is OSX?

Does that mean Vista and OSX are getting married?

I wonder who the best man will be.[/QUOTE]
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2006-12-16, 11:44 PM #6
Detty hit the nail on the head. The number of idiots that commented on that video is staggering. Also, the journalist for not realizing Apple didn't invent those things either. And for not even touching on the important aspects like security, stability, and speed.
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2006-12-17, 5:25 AM #7
Originally posted by Detty:
...Apple stole the original windows thing from Xerox, Microsoft licensed it from Apple for Windows 1 (but not subsequent versions which is where the legal issues started)....


Youve got that backwards -- Apple licensed the technology from Xerox, Microsoft stole it from apple.

But then again, "stole" is a bit of a harsh word. "Ripped-off" is more like it.
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2006-12-17, 5:37 AM #8
I don't have it backwards.
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2006-12-17, 6:32 AM #9
WIMP is the worst thing that ever happened to GUI. It's so clumsy.


Apple never licensed PARC, but Xerox was sold Apple stock in exchange for technical information. Microsoft was originally working on software for the Macintosh and never strictly licensed any of the GUI technologies. Windows 1.0 actually didn't support overlapping windows because Apple claimed to have IP for that, among other features. When Apple, HP and Microsoft went to court it was pretty much discovered that Apple didn't own ****. By the time Xerox went to court against Apple for their IP violations, though, the statute of limitations had passed and it was too late.
And then there's the fact that X uses a client-server model, which was "stolen" by Microsoft and Apple once commodity bitmapping hardware became fast enough to run it. :rolleyes:

Nobody really stole anything. I know people want to hate Microsoft, but for the most part their programmers approach the problem the same way pharmaceutical researchers do. There might be competing products on the market, but if everyone is using similar TCP stacks or graphics server models or HID drivers or hotkeys and basic function it helps everybody.

And now Xerox's patents have expired and all of that delicious IP is in the public domain.

The only suits that are still around are 'look and feel' suits, but every major OS vendor, GUI toolkit and desktop environment have enough 'look and feel' property to bury anybody who tried to sue them.
2006-12-18, 6:46 PM #10
Originally posted by phoenix_9286:
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Actually the best man would be Tux. He dresses nicely, too.
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2006-12-18, 7:36 PM #11
[QUOTE=Double Helix]Actually the best man would be Tux. He dresses nicely, too.[/QUOTE]
meh. All the same to me.
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