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Is it me or is FOX news extremely conservative
2004-07-09, 8:34 PM #1
I'm not saying that its bad, but i just noticed this morning that it is. All glory to them, the have some good shows on the network. Or maybe I think its conservative because O'reilly has such a huge conservative vibe that it rubs off on the whole network? Who knows.

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2004-07-09, 8:37 PM #2
It might come as a shock to you, considering the rest of the media is all liberal. No it is not entirely conservative. They try to be pretty balanced, which they do a pretty good job at most of the time. And to my knowledge O'Reily is/votes independant.

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2004-07-09, 8:38 PM #3
I've noticed that too. It's odd considering that every other network is blaitantly liberaly biased.
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2004-07-09, 8:39 PM #4
Oh, I didn't know that about O'reily. Thats cool. And I do have to agree with you on the fact that the rest of the media is liberal

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2004-07-09, 8:44 PM #5
... My *god* you're observant...you should work for the CIA with that sort of skill!
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2004-07-09, 8:53 PM #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
... My *god* you're observant...you should work for the CIA with that sort of skill!</font>


Nay, the NSA!

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2004-07-09, 9:03 PM #7
That's why I primarily watch Fox. Sometimes they can get pretty biased. I know people think the whole "fair and balanced" thing is bull, but they seem to take it as if they're presenting themselves as opinionless. They do let people from the otherside get their opinions in.

Someone I know actually called Fox liberal, that was one of the best laughs I've had in a long time.

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2004-07-09, 9:23 PM #8
As far as I am concerned, even if they are somewhat conservatively biased, so what? They are no competion for every other network out there. Liberals already own the TV networks. So what if there is one conservative network that shows things the way they are, and with actual facts. That is not the way that they operate. I bet you see something on FOX that is a fact, and immediatly take it as being biased. Well you just cant. The fact is that is the way conservatives tend to operate, with the facts.

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2004-07-09, 10:07 PM #9
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by finity5:
As far as I am concerned, even if they are somewhat conservatively biased, so what? They are no competion for every other network out there. Liberals already own the TV networks. So what if there is one conservative network that shows things the way they are, and with actual facts. That is not the way that they operate. I bet you see something on FOX that is a fact, and immediatly take it as being biased. Well you just cant. The fact is that is the way conservatives tend to operate, with the facts.

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2004-07-10, 3:42 AM #10
heh, the other channels are liberal by american standards. In other words; they're just less conservative conservatives. You know, kinda like the democrats.

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2004-07-10, 7:07 AM #11
While they lean conservative, I wouldn't say they are 'extremely conservative'.

The best part of Fox is having the debates between democrats and republicans, conservatives and liberals. They allow both sides to talk.

But compare it with any other news like ABC with Peter Jennings...

The reason FOX seems so conservative is because the rest of media is so liberal. Plain and simple
2004-07-10, 7:36 AM #12
fox = a honest attempt to be as balanced as possible, seems conservitave in comparison to almost all other media.


the editorial shows vary on the polutical scale, tending towards right, but they are editorial and not news shows. even when the the news say somthing subjective, they make a very blatent distiction, liek a big fanfare and visial efects.

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2004-07-10, 7:45 AM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flexor:
heh, the other channels are liberal by american standards. In other words; they're just less conservative conservatives. You know, kinda like the democrats.

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If the rest of the world gets more liberal than the typical "american standard liberal," I don't ever want out of the US.

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2004-07-10, 7:54 AM #14
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sine Nomen:
... My *god* you're observant...you should work for the CIA with that sort of skill!</font>


The funny thing is he could.
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2004-07-10, 8:15 AM #15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare:
But compare it with any other news like ABC with Peter Jennings...</font>


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2004-07-10, 8:21 AM #16
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare:
The best part of Fox is having the debates between democrats and republicans, conservatives and liberals. They allow both sides to talk.

But compare it with any other news like ABC with Peter Jennings...</font>


That's the great thing about Fox. Other networks, liberal networks, lie and show things from only one dimension. They're spin doctors. If Fox was the same, they'd be no better than the rest. But they give the other side the chance to speak their minds equally, a chance they would NEVER recieve from Peter Jennings or Tom Brokaw.
Any such fairness in today's media is an all but dead principle and a precious asset.
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2004-07-10, 10:03 AM #17
I can't stand Peter Jennings. His voice makes me plot his assassination. SO. IRRITATING.

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2004-07-10, 10:12 AM #18
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly

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2004-07-10, 10:18 AM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Correction:
If the rest of the world gets more liberal than the typical "american standard liberal," I don't ever want out of the US.

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2004-07-10, 10:32 AM #20
That site was great. Obviously not "fair and balanced," but pretty damn funny.

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2004-07-10, 11:18 AM #21
Fox News has been known to express liberal and consevative editorial commentaries, but it's news is truly non-partisant. Just 'cause a network's news topic focuses on a positive Bush acheivement, when other networks will ignore it or just make it out to be a blip, doesn't make that network conservative. It makes it honest.

I was in Manhattan just prior to the 2000 election, and a CBS reporter was asking a few passer-bys their opinions on the canadates. I had my opprotunity to give my 2 conservative cents... as did many more, as I stood by and watched. Prolly about 50% had conservative opinions. I watched the news that evening to see if my mug made the cut... but I didn't. In fact, only the Gore supporters did. Not one conservative opinion. Go figure. Fox News would never do that, and I've only watched that station ever since.

I've known many to consider Fox News to be conservative... but they're only liberals how can't stand to see the news unless it's delivered from a blaintently liberal perspective.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">heh, the other channels are liberal by american standards. In other words; they're just less conservative conservatives. You know, kinda like the democrats.</font>


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2004-07-10, 11:21 AM #22
When your argument is weak, attack people personally, and do so in an immature and vulgar manner. That pretty much sums up the article posted above. I suppose that people aren't allowed to have patriotism or pride in themselves or their workplace these days. Kinda sounds like penis envy to me.

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2004-07-10, 11:22 AM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by halucid:
I was in Manhattan just prior to the 2000 election, and a CBS reporter was asking a few passer-bys their opinions on the canadates. I had my opprotunity to give my 2 conservative cents... as did many more, as I stood by and watched. Prolly about 50% had conservative opinions. I watched the news that evening to see if my mug made the cut... but I didn't. In fact, only the Gore supporters did. Not one conservative opinion. Go figure. Fox News would never do that, and I've only watched that station ever since.</font>


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2004-07-10, 11:32 AM #24
I'm glad there's at least one network that decided to take a more conservative path. People ***** about it, but they're super left wing liberal who think Fox News is a conservative conspiracy to ake over the world or something

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2004-07-10, 12:12 PM #25
To liberal media everything is black and white. If you don't agree with them and do what they do, then you are a conservative. Doesn't even matter if you were directly contradicting them or not. If you're different, you're conservative.

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2004-07-10, 5:03 PM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kieran Horn:
To liberal media everything is black and white. If you don't agree with them and do what they do, then you are a conservative. Doesn't even matter if you were directly contradicting them or not. If you're different, you're conservative.</font>


And change every instance of 'liberal' to 'conservative' and vice versa, and you still have a true statement.
2004-07-10, 5:13 PM #27
enter Rush Limbaugh

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2004-07-10, 6:53 PM #28
if you want a non biast news cast, watch PBS

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2004-07-10, 6:56 PM #29
Personally, I've found PBS to be extremely liberal on issues. I'd rather stick with FOX.
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2004-07-10, 6:59 PM #30
Hang on, PBS? ohhhhh... ok, yeah. They're balanced. Yeah, they're cool.
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2004-07-10, 9:48 PM #31
Hardly. News agencies like the AP, Rueters, etc, are the closest thing you'll find to unbiased news and even they, they have their bias

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2004-07-11, 6:23 AM #32
You're forgetting who really owns the media. It's not the liberals, it's not the conservatives, it's the Jews. Now don't you forget it.

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2004-07-11, 6:29 AM #33
And aside for the Othrodox Jews, most lean liberal. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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2004-07-11, 7:10 AM #34
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You're forgetting who really owns the media. It's not the liberals, it's not the conservatives, it's the Jews. Now don't you forget it.
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2004-07-11, 7:43 AM #35
Yes, because verbally abusing liberal intervewees is very fair and ballanced. And what about hanneity and colmes! I mean, put an ultra-conservitive and a moderate that you call a liberal on the same show! Thats fair and balanced.

Fair and balanced my buttocks .

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2004-07-11, 7:57 AM #36
I don't like Hannity. Everyone calls Bill O'Reilly arrogant and cocky, but I don't think he is anywhere near Hannity and Limbaugh. And Colmes doesn't seem like a moderate to me. He just isn't as outspoken and flamboyant as the typical liberal analyst.

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2004-07-11, 8:32 AM #37
Colmes is pretty much hannety's ***** anyway. Colmes almsost gets no air time, and hes not very outspoken in any of his views.

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2004-07-11, 10:35 AM #38
Fox News is hilarious to watch. We got Fox News after the WTC attacks and throughout the Iraq invasion, and it really made both events quite amusing. The whole "fair and balanced" slogan has to be a parody. The whole thing is like a televisional editorial from The Sun.

BBC News used to be pretty much the mouthpiece of the government, up until quite recently, but the BBC has split off from the Government over some disputes, such as the Dr. David Kelly thing. While it is easy to assume that the BBC would be blatantly anti-Government, that isn't always quite the case, as reputation is very important for the BBC. I would much rather rely on the BBC as a single source than any American media.
Unless I was researching something specifically American, such as the presidential elections.

I also do like local news, and Al Jazeera is good for Middle Eastern news, though it's sometimes difficult to get the latest stories in English. Al Jazeera is very different from any western media, and shows the cultural differences too, and it doesn't have the internal censorship and shows the news as it is. Yes, it does reflect the anti-American sentiment in the Middle East, that's the way to sell papers, but the bias of Al Jazeera pales in comparison to Fox News.
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2004-07-11, 10:44 AM #39
I just want to let people know that shows like Hannity and Colmes, Greta, and O'Reilly are not news shows. Those are politcal talk shows.

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2004-07-11, 1:54 PM #40
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mort-Hog:
Fox News is hilarious to watch. </font>


I say the same about the rest of the liberal dominated media out there

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