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Burning Crusades...
2007-01-22, 6:20 PM #81
Hmm...never noticed.
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2007-01-22, 6:24 PM #82
I lack the money and the ghz for mmo's that cost money, cause free ones are crap.

yay, maplestory.
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2007-01-22, 6:34 PM #83
Originally posted by Vincent Valentine:
Anybody notice how they put Bow and Gun vendors outside the Blood Knight headquarters in Silvermoon, as if to mock us?


It's because the change from warriors to blood knight was a bit sudden, and they never got around to it. I'm not sure where the hunter trainers are.

However, rogues can use bows and guns as well.
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-01-23, 8:33 AM #84
The couple in the pictures are me and my rp friend's characters. The one with the giant floating gem with people sitting around it was my guild's meeting (Blood Elf exclusive) and the two with Sylvanas are part of the most beautiful moment I've encountered in the game in two years.
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2007-01-23, 3:53 PM #85
Originally posted by Alan:
I lack the money and the ghz for mmo's that cost money, cause free ones are crap.


You've never played Guild Wars, have you?

stfu
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2007-01-23, 4:14 PM #86
Originally posted by petmc20:
You've never played Guild Wars, have you?

stfu


Guild Wars sucks :\

And yes I've played it.

Plus: It's not an MMO.
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-01-23, 4:35 PM #87
Originally posted by Glyde Bane:



Plus: It's not an MMO.


Um, actually, it is
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2007-01-23, 5:09 PM #88
So I got the Burning Crusade, and started leveling my priest. All I can say is wow. Outland is AMAZING. It's constantly active, it doesn't have that feeling of unactiveness that the rest of the world has always. There's stuff falling from the sky, stuff attacking the towns, fire flying from the ground and sky. It's really, really amazing.
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2007-01-23, 5:10 PM #89
Originally posted by petmc20:
Um, actually, it is


Actually, it's not. The developers themselves have said hundreds of times that they are not an MMO. It's instances with a semi-massive town structure.
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2007-01-23, 5:23 PM #90
Originally posted by petmc20:
Um, actually, it is


It's as much of an MMO as Diablo II is.
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2007-01-23, 8:10 PM #91
Originally posted by Wolfy:
It's as much of an MMO as Diablo II is.


Well fine. I still get to keep my money though.
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2007-01-24, 5:02 AM #92
Not an MMO? Right, because its not played with several players, and its not restricted ONLY to playing online. :rolleyes:

Come on now, you guys should no better. Whether the developpers wish to admit it or not, its an MMO.

If I say my red car is blue, does that make it blue?
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2007-01-24, 5:11 AM #93
Originally posted by Jep:
Not an MMO? Right, because its not played with several players, and its not restricted ONLY to playing online. :rolleyes:

Come on now, you guys should no better. Whether the developpers wish to admit it or not, its an MMO.

If I say my red car is blue, does that make it blue?


Bad anology, because GW isn't an MMO. It's all instanced save for the 3d chat rooms.
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-01-24, 5:16 AM #94
You still play those instances in groups of players, AND you take part in fierce multiplayer PVP.

And it IS Massively Multiplayer whether you like it or not. You play with multiple people, and you must quest and pvp with several other people. Yes you can solo, just like can chose to do so in any other MMO.

I've played Guild Wars for quite some time. I've also played SWG, EQ2, and World of Warcraft for just as long. It was all the same bloody type of gameplay. You group and quest with others.

Whether things are instanced or not is just a twist to the gameplay style.

And by the analogy, I was simply stating that "The developers said so" is hardly an argument. Anyone to think otherwise is either a fool or a tool.
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2007-01-24, 5:25 AM #95
So, Diablo II is an MMO as well because you can group with others to get quests done or you can solo, and there's 'fierce' PVP in a predesignated area?
"Jayne, this is something the Captain has to do for himself"

"N-No it's not!"

"Oh."
2007-01-24, 5:41 AM #96
Hardly, because first and foremost at its base diablo 2 was a single-player game and with time it took steps towards being a multiplayer game. Did it takes steps towards the MMO genre? I say it did, yes.
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2007-01-24, 6:19 AM #97
I would say Guild Wars is a MORPG, but not a MMORPG.
2007-01-24, 6:25 AM #98
I thought this was interesting and relevant, from Wiki:

- MMOGs create a persistent universe where the game continues playing regardless of whether or not anyone else is.
- MMOGs host a large number of players in a single game world, and all of those players can interact with each other at any given time. ... Non-MMOGs ... are usually played on private servers.
- Neverwinter Nights (2002) and Diablo II are usually called online role-playing games, (RPGs) but are also sometimes called MMORPGs (a type of MMOG). Guild Wars has been called an MMORPG, but most of its gameplay involves small groups of players in private areas. The game's developer prefers the term "competitive online role-playing game".

The way I see it an MMO must have a persistant game world with a large number of subscribers on a single (or multiples thereof) company-owned centralised server.
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