NewEgg is pissing me off. They recently started offering UPS shipping, and since then, Fedex is usually always twice as much for the comparable UPS shipping. Except UPS sucks and I always thought that they were better. I had a package that was scheduled to come in today. It arrived here in Austin at 9:00 in the freakin morning, and yet they couldn't stick it on a truck any time today. Since it just rolled in to the 9th, the tracking thing no longer says "ON TIME" for the status and no longer gives a scheduled delivery date. It wouldn't be such a big deal if they would just give an accurate delivery time. I hate expecting a package and it never coming. If they would have just said that it was coming on the 9th, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

So vote I guess.

USPS. Can't beat their Priority Mail.

I deliver it myself, because I like long drives.

Driving up to Colorado to give someone an unopened pokemon booster pack
= win

I have yet to have any problems with any of the shipping services.

USPS is cheapest for media mail and their flat rate envelopes.

UPS was nice because when I had my TV Tuner card delivered, I wasn't home when the truck came. I called into the shipping center, and they let me come in a half-hour after they had officially closed to the public and pick it up.

I've never had any problems with FedEx. DHL usually goes as far as the USPS office, and then USPS delivers to my home. Everything has always been on time then.

I've just lucked out I guess.

Your shipping level determines the priority placed on your package.

Moral of the story? Ground service is probably what you picked and ground service blows.



I don't like Fed Ex because I've seen how they work, and I've seen their equipment. Infact, their air cans are SO CRAPPY that rather than replace them alot of the time they just rent ours because we have so many and have much higher standards of maintenance.

air cans? WTF?

I assume it has been USPS that has taken care of the letters and packages I've sent to the US to various people. Though I've never asked them what manner of company delivered them. But isn't USPS basically the traditional kind of post office chain, so it would make sense our Post Corporation would cooperate with them.

I'll give my vote to them, though I've no idea if it's actually true.

i have never had a problem with UPS not getting my package to me on time... and if it's not here by 5PM i call them

my only complaint about UPS is i had 2 rifles shipped to me... one was just fine... the other had a mangled front sight

my friend has a different complaint and learned a lesson... when shipping a guitar amp with any tubes in it... remove the tubes place them in their own well padded box and ship them USPS for UPS fragile means "soccer ball"

Container. Can. Universal Load Device.

Which do you like?




To the average UPSer poorly packed box means will be crushed under load.

Top load only on box so large and heavt it can't possibly be top loaded also means will be crushed under load.

I'll put it to you this way. Fed Ex and the USPS ship MOSTLY evenlopes. They get sorted, stuck into big mesh bags, and thats how they travel through the system for the most part.

UPS ships mostly BOXES. We also ship a fair amount of IRREGULAR shaped packages. (Tractor axles, mufflers, and every other weird piece of welded up I-beam you can think of)

Your package has to contend with THOUSANDS of other packages. Some which way more than I do. (FYI, about 150 pounds)

Now, most people won't put anything quite so heavy on a top load because this is a union job and everyone is lazy. However, you can almost expect at some point for a box to have a MINIMUM amount of 50-75 pounds of box to be stacked on top of it. PLUS planes, trucks, containers ALL SHIFT AND MOVE AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

Every smashed package I've ever seen has been poorly packed, packed in a re-used box, or packed into a crappy low-quality cheapo box.

In short, I know you can't depend on the company you order from to pack things like they aren't retarded. However when you pack something yourself you're more than likely the one to blame if it doesn't make it there in one piece.

(Same goes for DHL and Fed Ex really, I've seen some of their **** looking real smashed too.)

A UPS employee talking about poor quality standards in FedEx and DHL, there's some irony for you.

DHL FTW. Fast, cheap...what's not to like? Fedex and USPS Priority are right up there too. I've never been a big fan of UPS. Expensive and slow, IMHO.

I love UPS, got everything on time and in one case, one day early.

Royal Mail.

Occasionaly Parcel-Force.

The first and only delivery DHL ever made to my family's house, the delivery man threw the package out of his truck at our door like he was a paperboy. We don't use DHL anymore.

Nah. At USPS, the letter mail just ends up in big rolling open-top containers. At the plant, it's dumped onto a machine that sorts it by district and back into the same kind of container. This bins are sorted by zipcode... and into the same kind of container. Finally, it's route sorted, and put neatly in trays. No sacks anywhere. The only thing consistently sacked by the post office is registered and express mail, which are usually hand sorted.

But we have the same problem with poorly packaged stuff. At the plant, a box will regurally experience twelve foot drops. Other packages will land on it from twelve feet above. At individual offices, they are chucked by clerks, sometimes as far as thirty feet, into bins. Then there is the carrier himself. The rule is, if you can't drop it from shoulder height without breaking what's inside it, you didn't pack it properly.

But we don't ship heavy packages. We have a limit of seventy pounds. Anything more than that, we'll just tell you to go to fedex. (Not UPS. We like fedex, but not UPS. They said "The USPS wouldn't last one day in the open and fair market of competition". Well, NEWS FLASH. We do compete with you, and we don't have an advantage, we have a disadvantage from all the government regulations on us. I bet people don't call their CONGRESSMAN to complain about YOU! Also you're just jealouse because people won't stick UPS boxes on their curbs like they do for us.)

Yep, that sounds like DHL.

WTF are you talking about? One word doesn't cut it..

ups

I would rather have my dog drag my package thru rain, snow and mud to the destination than have USPS ship it. Even big large envelopes I wouldn't ship with them.

After receiving packages that were torn to pieces, ripped, OPENED, and such, I wonder just really what happens inside of USPS besides the actual job.

As for DHL, UPS, and FedEx, I've not had any issues with any of them. (Well, they all have the same problems)

Can you really not figure it out on your own?

I've never noticed anyone caring about the priority of the package at UPS, at least in the feeders. And it should be noted that depending on which ground zone you are in, in relation to where the package was shipped from, it may just get sent ground anyways. Next Day Air is such a waste within a small area.

JD -- if your package made it there, but then disappeared, it probably got missorted at some point and went out god knows where. When you get the package, just put in a claim and get your money refunded.

No, actually it makes no sense whatsoever. Why would you call a container an "air can?"

It flies?

I work between a massive FedEx operation, and a DHL operation.

There is a USPS hub right across the street that I go to about once a week.

I see what they do, I've seen how screwed up their containers all look, and I've seen them all be twice as negligent.

Feeders are just massive unload operations. The work is mostly or completely presorted.

Unless you're talking about FEEDER DRIVERS. Which drive massive trailers loaded with air cans around.

I'm usually a UPS guy.

I also just noticed U is the only vowel in the alphabet that we don't say "an" instead of "a" before it. Interesting.

"An Underground"?

Conjecture disproved.

>.>

i love to hate ups for their refusal to deliver on weekends... lazy bastards

next day air should mean 24 hours to my door not 24 hours to my city then 2 more days

(i ordered a revolver which must be shipped overnight USPS won't ship handguns to anyone but dealers and UPS won't ship handguns by any other method... it is in this city but won't be at my house until monday)

Perhaps where you're at, feeders are an unload procedure, Rob. Here at my hub, we load 'em and send 'em out to other hubs -- and trust me, people all the way from the unload to the primary sort to the load don't give a damn what service level a package is.

Beyond the fact that most feeders around here don't have anything to do with air cans. At all.

I mean the vowel sound itself. You know... the yoo sound.

There is a saturday service, numbnuts.

Regular air service IS FOR BUSINESS DAYS. However you may notice that your package will be in transit on a saturday or a sunday.

You do know someone is sorting the work that coems to you tight?

You do understand the function of a hub, don't you?

Rob is a fanboy.

Are you kidding?

I hate UPS.

I just don't like dumb people.

I like FedEx or USPS Priority.

I've been down at the UPS place in town where they sort all the packages for delivery, and it doesn't matter what the box says, most of them get thrown around like bad jokes at a Rodney Dangerfield convention.

That didn't make any sense, but it sounded good.

I was just kidding cause I know you work of them.

I need to record how they sort mail into usps containers for you.

Or show you how fedex loads their feeder aircraft.

Yes, Rob. I know how the sort works. Packages go on conveyors, and people move them from one conveyor to another depending on where they go -- not what shipping level they are.

'Cept bulk.

I definitely get at least the same proportion of destroyed Next Days as Grounds.

I NEVER SAID MORE ****ING AIR PACKAGES GET DESTROYED THAN GROUND PACKAGES. (Although, it's mostly true. Ground Packages typically go through alot more tramau than air packages, and exchange more hands. etc.)

YOU AREN'T WORKING AT A DELIVERY CENTER. YOU ARE WORKING AT A HUB. YOU DO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS RIGHT? Obviously you don't understand. But it's alright, I wouldn't expect a UPSER to actually understand their job. Thats asking too much.

Seriously. This is why I hate UPS, everyone else that works there has downs.

The postal service handles far and away more pieces than any of the others, considering we deliver on average six pieces to every single house in the country every day. When were dealing with such a huge volume, that 0.001% that's damaged is suddenly a hell of a lot of pieces.

That's wrong. Generally, the Postal Service doesn't care where a thing is being shipped. The sending office isn't going to call up the destination and check, they are just going to take your package. Also, it's perfectly legal to ship guns. The only restriction is that guns and ammunition cannot be shipped in the same package.

Generally, the type of service is ignored in USPS plants as well. That's because most plants have to route everything everyday anyway. There's always more coming, and if they get behind, it's real hard to catch up. At the local level, where the volume of mail can vary a great deal day to day, then lower services will be left behind if there's too much for one day. But first class and priority always goes out that day. People get fired for not working it the day they get it.

And, really, if you think someone is opening your mail in the plant, you're a moron. We have an entire department of federal inspectors whose sole job is spying on postal workers. And you wonder why we're crazy!