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UCLA online?
2007-02-22, 9:55 PM #1
http://msengrol.seas.ucla.edu/index.html

First time seeing a four year college do online courses.
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2007-02-22, 9:59 PM #2
It's a graduate program.

[I don't know why that's relevant, but that's the only thought that popped into my head when I clicked the site :o]
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2007-02-22, 10:10 PM #3
It's about damn time.

People will eventually come to realize that a college-grade education can be available to everyone at virtually no cost through the internet. But you can count on vehement opposition from teachers, unions, and bureaucrats who don't have a job without the unnecessary physical sites. And more importantly, the sports and stadiums students fund but receive nothing in return for.

Tell me this: why in the hell are colleges turning into businesses? Why do colleges "market" to people? Why do they admit far more people than can possibly utilize a degree? Why have they brainwashed seemingly every single person into believing a college degree is integral to their nebulous definition of success? I'd tell you but I'm not qualified to do anything except dig ditch, sorry.
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2007-02-22, 10:43 PM #4
Yeah I know its a graduate program, but it is my first time seeing something like that. Also this commercial from University of Wisconsin - Madison on TV.
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2007-02-23, 12:29 AM #5
I still prefer being taught by a professor over classes online.
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2007-02-23, 1:00 AM #6
Originally posted by Freelancer:
But you can count on vehement opposition from teachers, unions, and bureaucrats who don't have a job without the unnecessary physical sites.


Teachers and professors aren't paid craploads of money in the first place, so I hope you weren't thinking that. And I doubt the college classroom is going to disappear because of online teaching. People will still flock to schools because not everything will be offered online, not all studies can be taken over the internet. Not only that but certain subjects require close teacher-student and/or student-student interaction that can't be emulated through a computer screen.

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And more importantly, the sports and stadiums students fund but receive nothing in return for.


Not every college has a stadium. But it doesn't change the point that, while a stadium doesn't directly and immediately benefit the average student, it brings in money to the school. This money, then, can be used by the college to fund things, like new technology, programs and so on.

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Tell me this: why in the hell are colleges turning into businesses? Why do colleges "market" to people?


Because many colleges are private institutions that need money to survive?

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Why do they admit far more people than can possibly utilize a degree?


I don't understand what this means. Colleges aren't forcing people into classes, students are deciding what degrees they want. The college is there for the teaching. Why would a college say "No, you can't be admitted because you can't use this degree for anything worthwhile!"

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Why have they brainwashed seemingly every single person into believing a college degree is integral to their nebulous definition of success?


Brainwashed? Success is defined differently for everyone. And people come to success through different ways. Of course colleges need students who are willing to follow higher education because, otherwise, the schools would have no one to teach. So the schools try to encourage people to take classes or take interest in studying in a major.

Not everyone with a degree has become a truly successful person (depending on what you mean by success). But, fact of the matter is, having a college degree and eduction under your belt opens up better job opportunities than for someone who hasn't completed or attended college.

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I'd tell you but I'm not qualified to do anything except dig ditch, sorry.


Have fun?
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2007-02-23, 2:07 AM #7
*shrug* Post-secondary education has been businessified since the mid-eighteen-hundreds. Tuition has skyrocketed in the past decade, though.

Also, a degree is really useful...I mean, I'm getting a degree in music. I don't expect to be able to get a job like someone with a law degree would, but at least I'll have options beyond minimum-wage crap.
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2007-02-23, 2:26 AM #8
I know of a few universities that have been doing this for quite some time for certain majors... (Florida State University, Webster University, just to name a few)
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2007-02-23, 6:36 AM #9
what a bull**** program.

traditionally, you shouldn't be able to get a masters (in engineering) without doing some research. you cant do real research in the comfort of your home like that. what UCLA doing is a huge mistake. UCLA M.S. degrees will be looked down upon soon.

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